Freestyle Power factor pipe weight?

[Christian_83]

Hey guys
Any one out there, that have weighed a power factor pipe?
Manifold, chamber and water box?

 

[steve-uk]

total shipped weight is 21lb, that includes the box and packaging tho, havent weighed one out of the box

 

[LegDragger64]

When the waterjackets are full it will be heavy . Seems like when I weighed a type 9 pipe a few years ago it was around 10lbs heavier than a B pipe .

 

[Matt_E]

Full on billet motors with stroker cranks are also a good bit heavier than stockers. :biggrin:

 

[Christian_83]

Okai, so the wiehgt should be around the same as an type 9? I think i heard somebody talking about the type 9 pipe, being almost the same as power factor pipe?
But around 20 lb for the PF setup.
Legdragger, yeah thats what i thought, thats a decent weight gain for the dry pipe over the b pipe.
Matt, yeah more material - but allso more powa

 

[LegDragger64]

Some parts will surprise you . Dasa billet intake was a 1/2 lb lighter than the riva cast . Solas props are around 1/2 lb less than skat swirl or hooker .

 

[Christian_83]

Yeah it sure all adds up

 

[FearMyWrX]

Yeah it sure all adds up

So if a PFP was heavier you wouldn't run it...?

Weight is important is some aspects but I think people get a little too crazy... For example with the impellers. Would you not run a hooker because it weights half a pound more. That a pretty extreme example but you see where I am coming from.

 

[stefan]

Buy the carbon one i Will look soo good in the lenzi hull

 

[Christian_83]

FearM. Yeah i will. Just courios about how much heavier it is
Stefan, i dont think the carbon one is a dry pipe?

 

[stefan]

Think you a right buddy.

 

[Christian_83]

But it sure is nice, and i would love to get my dirty hands on one of thoese

 

[Stunts]

So if a PFP was heavier you wouldn't run it...?

Weight is important is some aspects but I think people get a little too crazy... For example with the impellers. Would you not run a hooker because it weights half a pound more. That a pretty extreme example but you see where I am coming from.

Actually drivetrain weight makes a huge difference. Anything spinning like your crank, driveshaft, prop etc weight plays a huge factor and is more significant in putting the power to the water. But I agree, some people are too worried about every little ounce. I think the best weight reduction would be the rider himself! :jester:

 

[Matt_E]

There's two sides to weight of spinning components on the drivetrain. More weight does mean it take some energy to spin that up.
But once it's going, it's going - all that rotating mass stores energy and helps to smooth out power fluctuations or anything else that might slow the engine down (or speed it up) significantly. In fact, that is the main purpose of a flywheel. Choppy water is a great example. Try both a total loss ski and an OEM charging ignition across chop at constant throttle and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
Another example is slow down. Let off full throttle on a TL ski and an OEM ignition ski. The difference is huge. The TL ski comes to a stop so abruptly that you're thrown forward a bit. The OEM ignition ski will keep going for a long ways.

I'm not saying that TL and lightweight components are not a good thing. But keep in mind that heavier driveline components also have advantages.

 

[FearMyWrX]

Actually drivetrain weight makes a huge difference. Anything spinning like your crank, driveshaft, prop etc weight plays a huge factor and is more significant in putting the power to the water. But I agree, some people are too worried about every little ounce. I think the best weight reduction would be the rider himself! :jester:

You've got some points and I do agree with you. I was leaning more towards not running a performance part that would be more beneficial to your set up because it weighted a little more. Example PFP vs B-Pipe or Hooker vs Competitor because of a half pound weight different.