Jet ski related death

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yamaslut

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Sanford said:
We have a rental PWC rental place down here (friends of mine) and they specifically tell all rental operators "do not go out into the open ocean." Having said that, there is no way to prevent someone from not listening to rules or guidelines.

I've seen my share of FNG's ridding in big surf with bad results. One time I got lucky because some idiot washed his PWC deep into the jetty rocks. He walked away and said f'it...insurance and I ran home to get my tools. Amazing what you can do with a hacksaw, 10mm/12mm/15mm ;)
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Where do ya live??? just wondering.... :smile:
 
gj_fx1

gj_fx1

X-H2
Sanford said:
Having said that, there is no way to prevent someone from not listening to rules or guidelines.
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Sure, explain the 1000 tow bill they will get if you catch them in the ocean.

What gets me is that in places with license requirements they somethines waive them for rentals. (Dont know if thats the case in FL). So if you own one for 10yrs+ you need to go sit through a class but any yahoo with $50 for a half hour is good to go. Dont get it.
 
butti

butti

lone wolf
Location
F-XTC
the rental guy here is a freind of ours.he absoloutly does not allow his rentals in the ocean.zero tolerance.if your caught your day is over and you get no money back.this is a very sad thing but im sure these guys were told not to go out of the intracoastal
 
Sanford

Sanford

ECF
Location
Freeride capital of the world
yamaslut said:
Where do ya live??? just wondering.... :smile:
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Palm Beach County.
gj_fx1 said:
Sure, explain the 1000 tow bill they will get if you catch them in the ocean.

What gets me is that in places with license requirements they somethines waive them for rentals. (Dont know if thats the case in FL). So if you own one for 10yrs+ you need to go sit through a class but any yahoo with $50 for a half hour is good to go. Dont get it.
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Actually they only charged $150 for tow and what ever damages may have occured from being stuck out in the ocean. 99% of their problems wasn't ocean-goers, it was those cash carrying/gold teeth/Yo-Yo operators that treat PWC as bumpercars.

In Florida there is a PWC boating law (for rental or private). This law was passed in 1996 and requires all operators born on or after September 1980 to pass a mandatory "boating safety" course (can be done online).

The problem with this (or any) law or course is it doesn't take any real world issues into consideration. The reality is you can't read common sense.
 
Ottis

Ottis

lamey powered
Location
Kittanning Pa.
Is this the first time someone was killed at the inlet on a ski? My fear is that something like this could get us banned from riding there, if thats possible.
 
gj_fx1

gj_fx1

X-H2
Sanford said:
In Florida there is a PWC boating law (for rental or private). This law was passed in 1996 and requires all operators born on or after September 1980 to pass a mandatory "boating safety" course (can be done online).
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How does that work for rentals? Does the rental operater give the test on the spot?
 
surfjunkie

surfjunkie

Location
deland fl
Ottis said:
Is this the first time someone was killed at the inlet on a ski? My fear is that something like this could get us banned from riding there, if thats possible.
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i think a guy shish-ka bobed himself in the head with his handlebars several years back. the lifeguards say that's why they make us wear helmets at the beach zone.
 
Sanford

Sanford

ECF
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Freeride capital of the world
gj_fx1 said:
How does that work for rentals? Does the rental operater give the test on the spot?
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An honest and legit rental operation will. My friends PWC rental biz had a computer at the store that would let the user take an online test. If they passed the test (trust me, its not all that easy) they would be able to get a print-out certificate. Many failed or gave up on the 60 minute course.

I don't know about the inlet but this certainly isn't the first time someone that rented a PWC got killed. Sadly they had a couple of (famous) incidents and those were caused by recklessness.

Most rental accidents are NOT reported. This is because they are usually caused from two rental operators crashing into each others PWC and only causing hull damage (maybe stitches). In those cases the most damage will be from the depleting wallet.

For years I've always told them "PWC rentals" will kill our sport. At the very least result in added legislation.

10 years ago I was run over (from behind) by a "friend" on a rented PWC. I was lucky because I was floating still while they mowed me down. Lucky because I saw them at the last second and only suffered $400 of parts damage and a bruised arm for a week.
 
SUPERJET-113

SUPERJET-113

GASKETS FOR CHAMP BRAP!
Location
Lake Havasu City, AZ USA
Sanford said:
Most rental accidents are NOT reported. This is because they are usually caused from two rental operators crashing into each others PWC and only causing hull damage (maybe stitches). In those cases the most damage will be from the depleting wallet.
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Funny you mention that Sanford.. I do fiberglass repair work and am currenty repairing 2 rental VX110's that basically hit each other nose to nose. lol
 
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yamaslut

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butti said:
way to spin the story:rolleyes: that writer is a scumbag
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the News Journal never gets the story right... that's why I never called them when I did the freeride... They are idiots...

He's an experienced rider and is renting a ski?????? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
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yamaslut

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kawasakit2me said:
It mentioned at least twice in that article that this guy was "an experienced rider". SO how does this make it anyone's fault but his own?

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They don't have a clue what they are writing about.... Power Ski??? come on...
 
Kny21

Kny21

Location
Delaware
yamaslut said:
He's an experienced rider and is renting a ski?????? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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yes, one other time renting now he's experienced.....

was an experienced rider, riding power skis in Panama City when on vacation with his family.
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douglee25

douglee25

m3booooy
Location
South Jersey
Sanford said:
We have a rental PWC rental place down here (friends of mine) and they specifically tell all rental operators "do not go out into the open ocean." Having said that, there is no way to prevent someone from not listening to rules or guidelines.

I've seen my share of FNG's ridding in big surf with bad results. One time I got lucky because some idiot washed his PWC deep into the jetty rocks. He walked away and said f'it...insurance and I ran home to get my tools. Amazing what you can do with a hacksaw, 10mm/12mm/15mm ;)
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All the rental places that I've seen actually make you follow a lead operator around. There is no off course riding either. It's much safer than what I believe the case maybe here.

Doug
 
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