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Aka Kane

X-H2
Ok, I ll try this,

Do you want the car to be running? Also, I did this with the charger connected to the battery and still did not get anything...Its just so weird how the voltage just stops at the solonoid post going to the starter, even when they are bridged....Could it still be the battery if it does the same thing with the jumper cables? Maybe I should just get a new battery. It is one of the walmart kind...
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
car doesnt need to be running.

if it does the same thing with the jumper cables it is probably not your battery.

I dont think the voltage isnt stopping at the solenoid, likely there is something skewed with your testing method.





Aka Kane said:
Ok, I ll try this,

Do you want the car to be running? Also, I did this with the charger connected to the battery and still did not get anything...Its just so weird how the voltage just stops at the solonoid post going to the starter, even when they are bridged....Could it still be the battery if it does the same thing with the jumper cables? Maybe I should just get a new battery. It is one of the walmart kind...
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Aka Kane

X-H2
Alright man,

I just hooked the jumper cables from my NEW car battery to the ski,

The wire from battery to relay gets 12.60.....When I touch the from the battery, to the wire going to the starter, the voltage goes down to .2 on both Wires...WTH
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
OK

unhook both big sides of the solenoid ( both red wires)

from yoru car battery BLACK jumper cable to the engine block somewhere.

from car battery RED jumper cable to the LARGE red cable that goes from the solenoid to the starter.

should turn over, if it doesnt the engine/pump is locked, or the starter is bad.

OR dirty or bad connection where that wire connects to the starter.

put the meter on resistance ( OHMS) 200-2000 scale would would, and touch the end of the LARGE red cable from the solenoid, and the other end of the wire where it connects to the starter.

should be a pretty low reading, like less than an ohm.




Aka Kane said:
Alright man,

I just hooked the jumper cables from my NEW car battery to the ski,

The wire from battery to relay gets 12.60.....When I touch the from the battery, to the wire going to the starter, the voltage goes down to .2 on both Wires...WTH
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Aka Kane

X-H2
It won't hurt it having that much voltage from the car going directly to the starter? I ll do this and get all the measurements, I just don't wanna mess anything else up.....We can basically cross the pump being blocked out. I say this because it was running fine, I shut it down and put it on the trailer, next time out, would not start at all the first time I backed it into the water....I have a feeling that the vibration from traveling has something to do with it.
 
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Aka Kane

X-H2
I will not be able to reach the wire at the starter....I ll get the other reading though,

I dont think it could be locked up either, as this happened before.....
 
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Aka Kane

X-H2
Ok,

Just went out and did the same thing again, hooked Jumper cables form the car battery to the wire leading to the starter. Now it is turning over? What the hell, just a second ago the starter would just spin, now its turning it over? What could this be?
 
tom21

tom21

havin fun
Location
clearwater FL
check the voltage on that battery now I bet its still falling off. If you watch it while you crank the ski and it drops way down - replace it.

sounds to me like you have a bad battery to engine ground and a bad start stop swithc and wires. the reason you are not getting the readings right are that you have multpiple probs going on.

battery first.
then connections to starter and motor
then start stop.

seriously check that batt now is it still losing voltage?
 
keefer

keefer

T1
Location
Tennessee
Yep, if the bendix is going out it could have been stuck in the engaged position like they seem to do. This would have caused the engine to be revving the crap out of the starter while riding. This will toast the starter, I think it is time to get someone with the proper tools and pull that flywheel and check that bendix. I will bet that you have toasted the starter due to a bad bendix. Ohm out the starter switch and make sure it is not sticking in the on position. The red and brown wires from the handle pole should read open until you press the start switch then they should read near 0 ohms. Use the lowest ohm setting when doing this. Make sure the lanyard is connected during this test also. :banghead: :biggrin:
 
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Aka Kane

X-H2
Don't really understand what your saying. I thought we all concluded that it can't be a bad start/stop switch? I have done the test many times to cancel out the switch and it always seems to be good....Is it possible that I could get some more time out of the bendix or will I risk screwing something else up? I beleive the starter is good since it is spinning when I have it jumpered from the car battery.
 
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Aka Kane

X-H2
Ok,

Well I am happy that we have gotten the problem figured out. Here is some results...Just went and tried using the Jetski batery to spin the starter, DOES NOT SPIN WHEN USING THAT BATTERY. So then I used the jumper cables from the car batt. IT SPINS WITH THIS BATTERY AND DOES NOT TURN OVER THE MOTOR. So does this mean I have a bad battery, bendix, and starter? How would all that go out at once? Is it possible that the starter is messed up internally and the bendix is fine? How much is this going to cost me??
 
tom21

tom21

havin fun
Location
clearwater FL
what I'm saying is you likely have more than just one prob going on here and that is making it very difficult to test. what is the battery reading now? and I only want to know as long as you have not put it back on the charger. I read all the posts and otheres may know more than me but.... I still did not see that the battery was tested. just that the voltage was falling once off the charger.
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
you can remove the bendix, soak it in solvent, and then grease it really well.

Ive done that before and gotten another couple of yeas out of them ( still going)

they are $80-90 new

you need to clean and check every connection in that circuit also.

clean all grounds, the red wire on the battery.

teh small red wires, the small blacks, and the start and stop switches should be cleaned as well ( the internal switch AND the connectors)

do it once, and be done with it.
 
tom21

tom21

havin fun
Location
clearwater FL
battery and starter, buy a good battery the sealed kind. and a top notch maintainer. I think MattE has some posts about his battery troubles?
 
Mouthfulloflake

Mouthfulloflake

ISJWTA member #2
Location
NW Arkansas
tom21 said:
what I'm saying is you likely have more than just one prob going on here and that is making it very difficult to test. what is the battery reading now? and I only want to know as long as you have not put it back on the charger. I read all the posts and otheres may know more than me but.... I still did not see that the battery was tested. just that the voltage was falling once off the charger.
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the voltage dropping to 0.1 volts was enough of a load test for me to suspect the battery, the car battery making it spin when the ski battery wont ( thru te same cables) pretty much points that the ski battery is weak.
 
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