How much glass is enough...

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
So I'm reshaping my SN and going flat deck. I've done some glassing before, but never enough to know strength compared to thickness. I've poured foam over my SN nose and reshaped. I also cut my hood down and foamed/reshaped as well. I'll obviously need to glass my deck too.

My question is: How thick do these areas need to be? I've got a lot of different material including: 1708, e-glass, 3/4 oz mat, core mat, and roving. I've used the core mat in a couple things and have been really surprised at how much rigidity it adds without adding weight.

So, what do you guys think I need to use for materials/layers/thicknesses?

BTW, here's a pic as it sits now. I stole a few styling cues from Trinity. You know....that old imitation/flattery saying.

Thanks,
Steve
 

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joe b

depth tester
Location
northfield, nj
That's awesome!!!

If you have'nt cut into the structure of the hull you'll be fine with a couple thin layers of cloth. For the tray area you'll want to make it thicker. I lay a test batch of the layers of cloth I think I'll need then cut into it after it dries to see if it's the thickness needed. I like @ 1/8 in. of glass where I stand.
 

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
That's awesome!!!

If you have'nt cut into the structure of the hull you'll be fine with a couple thin layers of cloth. For the tray area you'll want to make it thicker. I lay a test batch of the layers of cloth I think I'll need then cut into it after it dries to see if it's the thickness needed. I like @ 1/8 in. of glass where I stand.

1/8" is pretty good in the tray. I wasn't too sure because of the thickness of the stock hull. That won't be bad at all.

I have not cut into the front end at all, just simply poured foam over the stock front end. I did cut off the lip in the front though. That doesn't seem like it adds much structure anyways, most people end up breaking them anyway. I stood the ski up and reinforced the front some from the inside and filled it with 2 part foam. Then glassed in a 'bulkhead'. That should add a bit if structure to it anyways.

I'll probably do a couple layers of 1708 and a layer of e-glass to smooth it out on the front. Probably laminate in this order: 1708, roving, core mat, roving, and 1708 for the tray. That will be plenty strong and probably end up around 3/16" since I'm a bit heavy (235).
 

Waternut

Customizing addict
Location
Macon, GA
The nose can be 2-3 thin layers and be fine. I did 3 thin layers on mine and then sanded smooth which meant I basically sanded 2 layers off a couple spots. I could push those thin spots in with a finger but was sick of smoothing and now they're imploded after a couple nose stabs but everything else has held up well.
 

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
The nose can be 2-3 thin layers and be fine. I did 3 thin layers on mine and then sanded smooth which meant I basically sanded 2 layers off a couple spots. I could push those thin spots in with a finger but was sick of smoothing and now they're imploded after a couple nose stabs but everything else has held up well.

Cool, that's what I was hoping. I really didn't want to build up 5 layers on the front and have to deal with all of the angles. The back will be easy.
 
Location
Peoria, AZ
I did 4 layers on my flat deck tray and it seems plenty strong. Also if your planning on running foot straps I would glass in mounting plates for them while your glassing your tray, it worked good for me.

Ski looks great by the way.
 
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