Dyno charts

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
I see alot of people quoting hp figures for boats now which leads me to believe they have a dyno.
Would any one be keen to post up a dyno chart so we can see the torque curve.
 
Wax, you know the dyno's used by the forum. If that guys boat is stock and mine hits much harder then I make almost twice as much hp (73hp x twice = 150hp) and if the guy next to me feels like it hits a little harder then he's making 160hp and if the other guy goes big bore then thats 20hp to 25hp more 185hp and this is all below 7000 rpm cause we don't race and don't need those usless high rpm.
 
Wax, do flash readings count? When we were on the dyno the engine spike from 147 to 163hp so we counted it because it sounded better.
 

Foximus

CFL Cheapass.
Location
Oviedo, Fl
Heres from when I took my boat down to riva to get it tuned for their Vintage drag race. I really wasn't expecting these kind of numbers but I'm happy regardless.
 

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Im fine with very little HP as long as i can crank out the torque!
FYI anyone who wants to freestyle should be looking for torque since torque equals rotational acceleration which translates into hard hitting brap!
 

Foximus

CFL Cheapass.
Location
Oviedo, Fl
hp is an irrational and derivative figure of torque.


But something can have lots of torque and still be very slow. Do not make that mix up.
 
Fox, good to see someone else (very few) who understand the difference between work done in time and torque. Wax, I would also recomend polishing the exhaust pipe on the outside. This will help the crystaline structure of the metal become more uniform and able to make the return wave more consistant in volume. WAX, I have talked to reliable sources and have heard some numbers. TJ told me once that he built some engines for customers with $$$ then dyno'ed them. Later those customers claimed that the engines were not all that. He got the engines back with some minor changes made by the customers and upon redynoing them found that with the customers tuning that almost 20hp had been tuned out of the engine. He said its so easy to lose hp through what may seem like a good idea let alone there are very few tuners at the pro level. Most confuse torque,hp with responce. I don't cause I don't even know what they are!
 
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yamanube

This Is The Way
Staff member
Location
Mandalor
I think less attention should be payed on the numbers and more on the person providing those numbers the biggest challenge is understanding how the numbers are derived from the dyno.

The robot represents your motor, the dino represents the dyno.



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hp is an irrational and derivative figure of torque.


But something can have lots of torque and still be very slow. Do not make that mix up.

I like the big words to say something simple. In fact it is rational and it is not a derivative based equation since there is no derivation involved.

HP = torque*RPM / constant


The biggest thing with skis that it is a direct hook up, no clutch unlike just about every other motorized vehicle. This makes engine acceleration a bigger factor for us.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe any dyno's can measure this. When I worked designing vehicle drivelines we built inertia systems, but we were typically measuring it opposite to find driveline losses.

So, I guess we are left to it being opinion based like it currently is.
 

cambo au

TRYING TO LEARN
Location
AUSTRALIA
sorry for the thread jack guys but just a quick question

how much extra torque/HP will i get if i add a light weight flywheel?(like a TBM)

i really hope wax can answer this as im tossing up which one to buy TBM or JETNETICS just want the one that has the most HP a guy on ebay said the old RAD ones had as much as 32.3 hp but i dont think he new the torque figures
 
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