CNC Machine

Hey I just had a quick question about a CNC machine. I have access to a CNC "k1000tati" Is there anyone who knows about this type of thing that could give me some info. Such as what the possibilitys of this cnc are? Can cylinders or heads be machined on this cnc? I tryed to google it but it just came up with chinese websites, and that makes sence because I'm in china. Any help would be appreciated.
 

sj1million

moto - dirt/h2o
Location
melboring, Fl
You can do dang near anything on a cnc machine, the only thing is there will need to be multiple OP's and there will be some setup that'll need to be done correctly!


I tried googling "k1000tati" but didnt come up with anything worthwhile on it. Who makes the machine? is it 3,4 or 5 axis?
 
I'm not sure how many axis. I just met a guy who has the shop and it has 3 of those exact cnc machines. He was making car parts at the time. It was hard to communicate with the language barrier (he new some english). But I know I'd be able to get stuff done dirt cheap. I have no knowledge in this field thats why I though I'd ask here on the x. So it looked like the guy and his workers knew what they were doing, but what's OP's? Operations? Are the programs usually on CAD?
 

rasper99

Freighter wake hunter
Location
Portland, OR
Not trying to say don't try this but this a rather complicated thing to get into.

You design something in a CAD program then export it to other software that creates a "tool path" for the CNC machine. I did computer support years ago for CAD and CNC users. It's really complicated stuff. It might be a little easier now but it takes a long time to learn.

You would need a whole lot of free time and access to the expensive software.
 
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Goose

Guest
if your familure with using cad programs making up drawlings creating a tool path isnt a bigdeal. check out www.practicalmachinist.com tons of info on their and some very smart guys
 
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I did take a CAD course in high school, mostly house stuff/floor plans. I may be able to get the software free, and I do have a lot of free time. Goose, thanks for the website. I may loose interest when I find out how hard it is, but its worth checking out! :headbang:
 

#ZERO

Beach Bum
Location
Florida - U.S.A.
Most of the late model CNC machines you're going to find will be made in China; it would help to know the manufacturer.

Try using the CNCzone forum, the site should look very familiar. http://www.cnczone.com/

There is tons of information on CNC machinery and custom fabrication.

If you're a CAD monkey, you might want to build you own machine fairly inexpensive using LazyCam and Mach3 software.
 

stanton

High on jetskis.
Location
atascadero,ca
yea dude its not an automatic thing by any means. most likely its a 3 axis but you can do lots with 3 axis.
its taken my 2 years of experience to be comfortable with setup and operation on 4 different types of machine. i had lots of help, in china you wont be able to get any help!
youll break the machine most likely. its not something you can just give a whirl!
 

Nascency Chris

The Nascency Project
do you have a manufacterer of this specific machine? that would help alot...

you can do alot on a 3 axis...but you can do wayyyy more on a 5...and then that varies between machines...i loved the two that i used at the last shop i worked at...hate the one i use now...

my advice, if you have ideas, try and find a designer and/or shop that you are pretty sure will not steal your ideas, let them get the measurements for whatever it is you want run, and have them run it for you...a whole lot easier than trying to learn all of this yourself...
 
machining on a cnc is not for a beginner. i have been on cnc's making setups and programing for a long time. making heads and or cylinders is a big job and you can F some equipment up in a hurry, especially on new machines that run faster and are light duty. there is a reason why getting motor work done or buying after market parts is expensive. it is very time consuming to make setups and programs and it is not an easy task. i hate to say not to try it but ultimately is is easier to buy what you want than it is to make it yourself.
 

DAG

Yes, my balls tickled from that landing
Location
Charlotte, NC
I got to trane for 2 years on 8 nice HASS machines up to 4th axis. And even now it takes forever to get a simple idea into your hand. I'v build a simple steam engine and fluid gear pump only using store bought bolts to hold it together. You can spend some big money just in raw materials alone, not to count tool crashes from simple mistakes. Their's really so much that can go wrong, and only one way to make it right. With my limited 2year expereances, and access to free tools/machines, i'd rather have someone else take my modles and run production if i really wanted to bother with making a undercut duplicate of the many AM products that are out.
 
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QuickMick

Guest
Hey I just had a quick question about a CNC machine. I have access to a CNC "k1000tati" Is there anyone who knows about this type of thing that could give me some info. Such as what the possibilitys of this cnc are? Can cylinders or heads be machined on this cnc? I tryed to google it but it just came up with chinese websites, and that makes sence because I'm in china. Any help would be appreciated.

I would never try to bore or even deck a head on a cnc machine. There are simple manual machines just for these jobs.
Learn some CNC CADD and get to town making some billit heads, hood clips and anything else you can.
 

stanton

High on jetskis.
Location
atascadero,ca
oh yea and first running one can be scary ********. you dont know what its gonna do or how fast its gonna get there. watching a 300$ tool spinning at 10000rpm drop at the part and vice/fixture at 1.6 fps stopping an inch above then dropping again to cut depth will make you hit the stop even though its way too late if it was gonna crash. not clamp a part tight enough and have it shoot out of the vice is bad, makes very loud noise, hope it dont fly in your direction! you crash the machine and you will feel like ********. the few crashes ive had made me want to puke. the mashine will crush your body and not even throw an alarm. working on a chinese no name machine would freak me out, i wouldnt trust it AT ALL!
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/31061
 
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WDKfan

Workin too much
oh yea and first running one can be scary ********. you dont know what its gonna do or how fast its gonna get there. watching a 300$ tool spinning at 10000rpm drop at the part and vice/fixture at 1.6 fps stopping an inch above then dropping again to cut depth will make you hit the stop even though its way too late if it was gonna crash. not clamp a part tight enough and have it shoot out of the vice is bad, makes very loud noise, hope it dont fly in your direction! you crash the machine and you will feel like ********. the few crashes ive had made me want to puke. the mashine will crush your body and not even throw an alarm. working on a chinese no name machine would freak me out, i wouldnt trust it AT ALL!
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/31061

X2, The first time I ran one of the machines at school I was scarred to death of crashing a half million dollar machine, it gets easier every time I run a part I get a little more comfortable but I still frivolously keep my hand on the e-stop even though I know it wil be too late by the time I hit that button.
 
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