Charging Odyssey battery?

[Mile9c1]

Okay I don't want to be like Matt and **** this up. So how do I correctly charge a PC-625 battery? My charger says the battery is at 60% right now. It's an automatic charger, I can charge 3 battery types: regular, deep cycle and AGM. The Odyssey battery has no instructions on it.

I'm using this battery with an OEM ignition and it worked fine all last season (it's 1 year old now).

TIA :biggrin:

 

[#ZERO]

http://www.odysseybatteries.com/files/odysseymanual.pdf

 

[Matt_E]

I am not a reliable source of information on this subject, since I've fouled up two batteries using two different techniques now.

 

[Mile9c1]

Thanks, I didn't realize it is an AGM battery. I'll charge it at 10 amps.

On another note, I didn't realize these weigh 13 pounds :bigeyes:

 

[michael950]

Also:

http://www.odysseyfactory.com/odycharg_b.htm

Remeber that 2 hrs @ 10Amps is for a 100% discharged battery.

 

[PancakePete]

Cant you just hook it up to the Batter Tender and wait till the light turns Green. I get like a week of riding out of my odyssey and then I need to charge it... I dont get why it keeps dieing. I got it at the end of last year... It is really not that old. Should it be dieing. Or am I doing something wrong. I let it stay on tender over night !:261: :thinking:

 

[butti]

Cant you just hook it up to the Batter Tender and wait till the light turns Green. I get like a week of riding out of my odyssey and then I need to charge it... I dont get why it keeps dieing. I got it at the end of last year... It is really not that old. Should it be dieing. Or am I doing something wrong. I let it stay on tender over night !:261: :thinking:

:bigeyes: the tender will RUIN an odyssey.never use a tender on your odyssey!!!

 

[Mile9c1]

From what I gather... these batteries like to be charged at a certain voltage, and to a certian percentage each time. My battery charger has a button for AGM so it must know what to do. I remember one time I tried to charge an AMG battery using the "regular" setting and it wouldn't take a charge till I switched it to the "AGM" setting.

Mine tonight started at 60% and it only took about 5 minutes @ 12 amps to bring it to 100% charge. I'll post if it dies :frown:

The manual said you should store it with a full charge, mine's been sitting since September probably at the 60%.

 

[Matt_E]

Once more, the final failure on mine was mechanical. Just as an update to this: I sent my wife to a Batteries Plus store to get a warranty replacement. That exact store is where I got the first replacement. I even gave her my paypal receipt for the first battery.
They start off by protesting this dubious "Internet" purchase, and said they couldn't possibly warranty something from the evil Internetz.
What f'n morons. Then they put it on their tester and told her one hour later that the battery was perfectly fine, just that I let it discharge to a 10% level.

Uh huh, yeah right fockers. I just hooked up this freshly charged Odyssey battery to my ski and found, to no surprise, that it had just about enough juice to activate my relay.
A cheapo Walmart battery for the Square, on the other hand, does the trick.


Hurrr.....stay away from Batteries Plus in Spokane, WA. Lying fockers.
I will be calling Batteries Plus HQ and Odyssey, and ask if that's how they want their businesses represented.

 

[Kny21]

:bigeyes: the tender will RUIN an odyssey.never use a tender on your odyssey!!!

I've never heard that and used a tender on all 4 of mine, which I've had for over 3 years each.. I will say that I only use the charger on them for a day or so the week I de-winterize my skis and they barely even need the charge.

Unless your talking about using with constant drainage and re-charging.... I'd imagine any batt. wouldn't hold up to long with that.

 

[Adam]

I go through one Odyssey about every 6 months now! Thank god for the 1 year warranty so I dont lose $, but im stuck with Odyssey :bs2:

 

[superrob750]

ride more...

you know me..i do nothing to my ski.. i dont even winterize it. it runs like a champ..

 

[JimTMich]

http://batterytender.com/selection_guide.php

Deltran claims that hte Battery tender Plus is suitable for AGM and gel batteries.

Jr is good for AGM.

 

[#ZERO]

http://www.odysseyfactory.com/odycharg_c.htm

Here is the list of approved battery chargers and this is not an all-inclusive list.

Other chargers that also feature the charge voltages and profiles can be used too.

 

[Rickster]

Trickle charging deep cycle batteries is bad.

We use them heavily at work starting cars, and you should always let them drain totally before charging them back up. 1 hour on a 10 amp charge will bring them back up to full.

We get about 2 years use out of each battery this way, and like I said, these get used very heavily.

I have odesseys in all my ski's right now, as I got a good deal (3 for $134)...:cool2:

 

[Matt_E]

Thanks for that charger list. That Schumacher is what I charged my first one with. It still blew.

 

[#ZERO]

Trickle charging deep cycle batteries is bad.

We use them heavily at work starting cars, and you should always let them drain totally before charging them back up.

To get longer life from Odyssey Batteries, it is important that the battery is kept near a full charge, approximately 12.84 volts. If there are parasitic electrical loads during storage, the negative battery cable should be disconnected and an independent float or automatic trickle charger should be used. A 12 volt 3 amp automatic trickle charger can also be left connected to the battery if it is kept in storage for extended periods. The Absorbed Glass Matt or (AGM) construction allows the electrolyte to be suspended in close proximity with the plate’s active material. In theory, this enhances both the discharge and recharge efficiency. The AGM batteries are typically good deep cycle batteries and they deliver best life performance if recharged before the battery drops below the 50 percent discharge rate. If these AGM batteries are discharged to a rate of 100 percent the cycle life will be 300 plus cycles and this is true of most AGM batteries rated as deep cycle batteries. It is imperative not exceed 15.0 volts when charging as this will cause the pressure valves to open and out-gas hydrogen, oxygen and water from inside the battery. The deep cycle charging voltage must be within 13.5 volts minimum to 13.8 volts maximum to preserve the life of the battery.

 

[keefer]

Yeah, what he said. If you overcharge an AGM to the point that the valve releases then you are killing the battery. The recombinant nature of Gel and AGM are such that they must be charged within the specific guidlines for these battery types mentioned above. If not you just end up with a nice paperweight. I have been running a Deka AGM ETX16 for going on 3 years and it is the best battery I have ever used.

 

[Matt_E]

I started using my Jetworks KB35XC today.

 

[Rickster]

To get longer life from Odyssey Batteries, it is important that the battery is kept near a full charge, approximately 12.84 volts. If there are parasitic electrical loads during storage, the negative battery cable should be disconnected and an independent float or automatic trickle charger should be used. A 12 volt 3 amp automatic trickle charger can also be left connected to the battery if it is kept in storage for extended periods. The Absorbed Glass Matt or (AGM) construction allows the electrolyte to be suspended in close proximity with the plate’s active material. In theory, this enhances both the discharge and recharge efficiency. The AGM batteries are typically good deep cycle batteries and they deliver best life performance if recharged before the battery drops below the 50 percent discharge rate. If these AGM batteries are discharged to a rate of 100 percent the cycle life will be 300 plus cycles and this is true of most AGM batteries rated as deep cycle batteries. It is imperative not exceed 15.0 volts when charging as this will cause the pressure valves to open and out-gas hydrogen, oxygen and water from inside the battery. The deep cycle charging voltage must be within 14.1 volts minimum to 14.7 volts maximum to preserve the life of the battery.

I won't argue with you, BUT if we don't let our deep cycle batteries completely run down, they will only last a couple of months. If we let them fully run down, and charge at 10 amps for 1 hour, they last for years with no reduction of charge life.

This is base on my experience, and for $200 a pop for the batteries we use, I will go with what we have found works.