Big bore? Stroker? Lamey? ADA? Protec? Help

I want big power plain and simple. I know quite a bit about motors but i dont know all the products out there. I want a set of cylinders that wont break the bank but give me some more power. The stock cyilnders are just not what im looking for. I dont really want to jsut put sleeves into the 61x cylinder. What set of cylinders like protec riva or whatever is worth the money. Should i stroke it or not? Is it worth the money? Are lameys worth the money or should i go with another kind of cylinder? Help me out here guys. I dont need a 170 hp ski or anything but Ive got alot of stuff on it as it is and I think i need to step it up to a different set of cylinders.
 

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If you're really after an aftermarket cylinder, you should look at either ADA or Lamey. Either one will cost roughly 1800 new.
It will need to be ported, it will need pistons, and a head.

I would keep in mind that Lamey's - nice as they are - are race cylinders at heart. They can be made into a Freestyle cylinder, but it will cost you.
You're looking at $2500 min for a stock stroke engine.
 

njfl

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The cylinder is only a small part of the equation. What you really need is to wisely choose a builder to do their magic on your chunk of metal of choice. The ADA, Lamey, and even OEM cylinders can make tremendous power when the right work is done to them and when the right combination of parts is mated to them. I have had tremendous happiness with Team Scream and with Jetworks.

You say that you know a bit about engines. My advice to you is to talk to a few different siad-to-be good builders. Talk to Jetworks, Team Scream and others. Listen for what is just ego speak and listen in combination with your knowledge for things that make sense. You will know who to go with.

Good luck.
 
Yea i dont know. I dont want my motor built by someone else. I want to buy the cylinder and port it myself. They may lets say be able to make more power but i am a do it yourselfer. Money isnt the issue. Ive done everything else to the ski myself and i am damn sure not going to have a motor built by anyone else. One question. I already have a girdled Riva head. Can i just buy domes for that to fit another type of cylinder? I know i may need to get special ones or have them worked on for flattop pistons but do i need a totally new head? Advice for a good setup is one thing. Sending me a motor to drop in my ski is NOT what i have in mind. I can port the motor myself.
 

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You can use your Riva head with the appropriate domes.

I am a do-it-yourselfer myself, big time - but a $2k cylinder is something I would rather pay to get ported.

JMO.
 

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What cylinder would you buy. The ada's are not standard stroke. You also need a stroker crank. Worth the money? not worth the money?

The Lamey's are not set up for standard stroke either. If you're doing it yourself, the stroker ain't worth the money - because (unless you really know what you're doing) you'll not set it up well enough to make the most of it.

Stroker cranks are another 1000-1500 new.
 

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from my experience with all three above . i would go with a lamey cylinder around a 6 mil stroke . but keep in mind like others said this is best left to someone with experience because they have already made the mistakes and paid for them . if you use a stroker you will have to cut cases as well as port them . you will also have to modify your exhaust to fit it for the the powervalves . especilally if you run a b- pipe you have to cut the water jacket and reweld . all in all you get the most power dollar for dollar with a good ported big bore 61x . after you have run one of those for a year or two then move on to the next level . you will save around $4000
 

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Which part?
(or all of it?)

:biggrin:

I don't doubt it.....I am just a keyboard cowboy. I don't even ride.
Welcome to the site, btw. Nice to have some good talent here.
 
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wsuwrhr

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Thanks, and thanks for the welcome.

I think your post that I quoted was wrong.

Initially, in your opinion, how are Lameys not set up for stoke stroke?

Brian

Which part?
(or all of it?)

:biggrin:

I don't doubt it.....I am just a keyboard cowboy. I don't even ride.
Welcome to the site, btw. Nice to have some good talent here.
 
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I was under the impression that all Lamey cylinders started out as 8mil stroker cylinders and were then cut down to the desired stroke.
 

wsuwrhr

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I was under the impression that all Lamey cylinders started out as 8mil stroker cylinders and were then cut down to the desired stroke.

Nope,

There WERE two castings, with very distinct differences, one for strokers and one for stock stroke.

Now each billet cylinder will have its own programs.

Brian
 

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they had to have two castinsg other wise the timing was all wrong when you put a stroker crank in
The same as when you put a stroker crank into a 61x
 

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Thanks for the info. :biggthumpup:

I thought I had seen the opposite written out somewhere before, so thanks for setting the record straight.
We need more *Good* info here.
 
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