Any Benefit for -3 hull waveblaster ?

[SeaBeeYamaha]

Considering tearing down one of my waveblasters to build a freeride unit, Would there be any significant gains from cutting the hull back -3? I ride on lake michigan most of the time, a few times a year we will get 5-6 foot waves. Right now the blaster has ported cyclinders protec pipe and head, light weight flywheel prop ride plate and intake. I am considering spilting the ski to do reinforcement Any feed back would be helpfull

 

[Dustin Mustangs]

I can't say for sure about shortening the hull other than that I've never heard of it being done before. Normally it's done on the standups by the flatwater guys so not sure it would make much sense on a blaster. Maybe someone else will have some real world experience with this but I am not thinking so.

Reinforcement on the other hand is a great idea. If you hit bottom alot, do the transom. I ride lake michigan too and really don't have much of a problem keeping my transom in good shape. You just have to keep an eye on where the sandbar is and how deep of water you're in. Some say you can break them up just by going big but I'm not buying that. If you want to get it upside down or do alot of stabs you should fill the bondline, and reinforce the sides. I used two layers of 17oz biax from us composites that overlapped on top of the bondline and it is holding up great (see pics). The hood will also take quite a beating on failed rolls and backies. One solid pancake and an unreinforced set of hoods will be cracked in multiple places. I'm on my third set of hoods right now and am hell bent on figuring out how to make them survive this. I've got some ideas I'm about to set in motion for this upcoming season but I'm not going to get my hopes up. One thing is for sure, you won't need to split the hull for any of this.

BTW, I am right down the road from you in Holland. I grew up in Spring Lake so I am really familiar with the area. Where do you ride at?

 

[SeaBeeYamaha]

Almost all of my riding is done out of whitehall, it is a much shorter ride to lake mi than going from spring lake plus it seem every time I go out the grand haven pier the coast guard gives me a hard time.

 

[Dustin Mustangs]

Yeah, GH is a waste and the grand river is nasty to say the least. Have you ever tried Port Sheldon? I imagine it is quite a bit closer than Whitehall. It's about 15 min south of gh and ramp to lake is less than a 5 min ride with only a couple hundred feet of no wake. On wave days you never have to pay at the ramp and there is never anyone out there as far as sheriff patrol or coast guard goes. That's where we always go...

 

[diamondaudio10]

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[ses601]

Some say you can break them up just by going big but I'm not buying that.

they will absolutely cave in without hitting bottom, 110% guaranteed. BE CAREFUL landing perfectly vertical. i'm on my second season with an un-rienforced transom on a pretty much mint, bone-stock blaster.....this is the first one i really care about and try my absolute hardest to always land with the transom at an angle to the water (unless, of course, you are nosing it in)

 

[seatsR4toilets]

Yup, transoms will crack without hitting bottom. I've filled in the rear bond line with resin before, but I'm not sure it helped the cracking issue.
I saw a ski at Daytona 2-3 years ago that had a stainless steel plate the dimension of the back that seemed to do the trick. However, for me, weight in the back is and issue, as I run a Solas Aggressor pump. But I may just do it anyway very soon. I'm sick of fixing crap and I just wanna ride for a change.
I've been told that Tom21 is working as we speak to build a carbon one-piece hood to help us eliminate the pancake problem. I'm on hood #2.
Like a dummy I've been selling off all my hoods of my parted Blasters.
Hopefully this Tom21 hood will be the last one I need.

 

[Dustin Mustangs]

I used to think transom cracks were an issue too until I got a hull that didn't have signs of cracking back there. On purpose I left it unreinforced just to see what it would take to break it up. There were absolutely no signs of cracking until I hit bottom with it. Not even spider cracks. I've hit bottom a number of times now, once hard enough to crack a ride plate in half. Even with that I only have very slight spider cracking with no gel coat loss. I go as big as anyone I've seen around here and ride often but I rarely come straight down on the back so maybe that plays a role in this.

Lets be honest tho, reinforcing it is not an easy or fun job. If I ever do one it's going to be post damage as part of the repair which really wouldn't add much to the job.

 

[seatsR4toilets]

I used to think transom cracks were an issue too until I got a hull that didn't have signs of cracking back there. On purpose I left it unreinforced just to see what it would take to break it up. There were absolutely no signs of cracking until I hit bottom with it. Not even spider cracks. I've hit bottom a number of times now, once hard enough to crack a ride plate in half. Even with that I only have very slight spider cracking with no gel coat loss. I go as big as anyone I've seen around here and ride often but I rarely come straight down on the back so maybe that plays a role in this.

Lets be honest tho, reinforcing it is not an easy or fun job. If I ever do one it's going to be post damage as part of the repair which really wouldn't add much to the job.

I'm with ya 100% on that.
We had to pull out foam under the back deck to install the new rear exhaust through fitting, and after that 5 hour chore I decided to hold off on the trying to lay glass back there until I needed to do it.
Total pain. Total, total pain. :censored:

 

[NVJAY775]

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I'm with ya 100% on that.
We had to pull out foam under the back deck to install the new rear exhaust through fitting, and after that 5 hour chore I decided to hold off on the trying to lay glass back there until I needed to do it.
Total pain. Total, total pain. :censored:

I started out cussing like a trucker. But found a wire (cone shaped) wheel on the end of a drill is the shiznit back in there. Bore, pull chunks, bore, pull chunks etc... The clean-up is kind of a bastard though.

 

[seatsR4toilets]

Yeah, sticks all to your sleeves, etc etc. And scrape the hell out of your arms on the edges because the access is too small and too deep.
Crappy job, to say the least.

 

[NVJAY775]

Yes it is. So far the biggest PITA on the B1.

 

[ses601]

yea, anything back there is a PITA! also, i too will wait until repairs are needed to reinforce anything :fingersx: another thing that can work well is cutting through/out the deck to get in there, and just reglassing it back on when finished....