3m 5200

[D Slicker]

Is it me or does this stuff seam to get everywhere when you use it.

 

[Matt_E]

Yup. I wear surgeon's gloves and am very careful.

 

[sflsurfrider]

i hope you either got the quick drying formula or youre not planning on riding for a week or 2.

 

[wayne]

Yup. I wear surgeon's gloves and am very careful.

thats what i should have done. still have that crap on me from last weekend.

 

[D Slicker]

Yup, i wore gloves and got the stuff in my hair, pants, floor, and stuff I swear i didnt even touch.

 

[yamanube]

The quick dry stuff is nice but it seems to be worse for cleanup and getting everywhere. The normal stuff is easy to clean up when your done, the quick dry you have to pretty much stop what you're doing and clean up before it dries.

 

[Matt_E]

Fast cure isn't as strong as the regular stuff.

 

[FL-cracker]

Wear surgeon gloves..... and a helpfull little tip..... use some acetone on your finger to make the 5200 smooth... makes it look better.

 

[DaUpJetSkier]

quick ?, if used for glueing in footholds, do you have to wait a week or two before glassing them in to allow the glue to dry?

 

[Matt_E]

Why use 5200 at all in your holds? :dunno:

I am pretty sure 5200 cures without air.

 

[SUPERJET-113]

Fast cure isn't as strong as the regular stuff.

I agree. 4200 is like a glorified silicone whereas the 5200 is something out of this world! It sure works great if you have the time to let it dry. I did my xmetal skupper with 5200 and it wont be moving or leaking anytime soon! It nearly impossible to break a 5200 seal.
Most of the time I dont have the patience or time to wait on 5200 though.
I prefer using epoxy resin and milled fibers to glue down my footholds, along with SS screws. Then glass around the footholds with epoxy and strips of some good mat or nytex 1708.

 

[DaUpJetSkier]

Why use 5200 at all in your holds? :dunno:

I am pretty sure 5200 cures without air.

Cuz im sick of dealing with a mixture of epoxy resin and thickeners, Im about to do a buddies holds and I want to use 5200 fast cure.

 

[yamaslut]

Wear surgeon gloves..... and a helpfull little tip..... use some acetone on your finger to make the 5200 smooth... makes it look better.

spit is the best.... acetone will disolve the 5200 making it run, while saliva will not mix w/ it and acts like a lubricant...

 

[Matt_E]

I agree. 4200 is like a glorified silicone whereas the 5200 is something out of this world! It sure works great if you have the time to let it dry. I did my xmetal skupper with 5200 and it wont be moving or leaking anytime soon! It nearly impossible to break a 5200 seal.
Most of the time I dont have the patience or time to wait on 5200 though.
I prefer using epoxy resin and milled fibers to glue down my footholds, along with SS screws. Then glass around the footholds with epoxy and strips of some good mat or nytex 1708.

Careful....5200 fast cure is not 4200. Two different animals.

5200 = 700 psi tensile strength
5200 fast cure = 600 psi ts
4200 = 300 psi ts

 

[yamaslut]

Cuz im sick of dealing with a mixture of epoxy resin and thickeners, Im about to do a buddies holds and I want to use 5200 fast cure.

do it up.... it will nver leak..

I would still epoxy/glass the deck though

 

[WFO Speedracer]

I used to work on Ski Nautiques,they use 5200 to put the fins on with,to remove a fin you remove the bolts,get one person with a 4x4 under the boat to hold it against the fin,another person holds the 4x4 on the outside of the boat then someone else wacks the 4x4 with a sledgehammer,the bond is that strong.

 

[Snackem]

When I used to build travel trailers we used a 3M adhesive silicone for a while to seal up all of the moldings on the outside and the roof. To smooth out the seams take a spray bottle and fill it with warm water, then add just a little bit of dish soap (palmolive works the best). Add just enough soap so that when you spray it on your thumb and forefinger that they feel slippery NOT soapy when you rub them together. When we sealed a seam we would run the sealant along the seam and then a guy would follow spraying the seam first with the mixture and the surrounding surface (since the adhesive will not stick to soap) then smooth out the silicone. Also if you spray your hands with the soapy water then the glue will not stick to your hands. I used to seal about 600-700 linear feet every day and this worked great for me.

 

[aqua]

i hope you either got the quick drying formula or youre not planning on riding for a week or 2.

sfl is not kidding....it took mine a week to dry.....i used the regular 5200 as it is suppose to be stronger than the quick stuff.

 

[Matt_E]

Not by much though.

 

[>Fuse<]

I didnt have to wait too long on my 5200, and I used the regular. It was extra cold in my garage at the time, so I used a heater. Not sure just how warm it was keeping the tray, but it definitely set faster than what I've heard from a lot of people. I think I took the screws out and glassed the next day (or the day after, its been a bit).

Board over the top with a gap left at the front for the heater to get fresh air, towel loosely draped over the open end of the tray (still allowed some airflow, I left it on overnight didnt want a fire!), and I had no problems waiting on the 5200 to dry.

I dont know what temperature y'all are working in, but maybe try letting it dry at higher than room temp like I did would help.