- Location
- Round Rock, TX
nope I am sure he just shook the jug and it wouldn't mix. Is a paint mixer on a drill needed?
av fuel?
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Tyler Zane
Open Your Eyes
- Location
- Panama City Beach, FL
sounds dangerous mixing gas with as electric drill. just my .02
- Location
- Houston/Galveston
no not always.
Don 79 TA
Still Fat....
- Location
- Madision/Huntsville AL
I used Sunnoco GT100 at one time and then they swapped it to 100ll and still ran fine, had no idea they swapped it out either, it became a big political issue back in 02/03 in NY with the distributors.
i just run run Sunnoco Purple 110 now and get it nicely priced here
i used to run Sunnoco Blue 112, but the 110 is a pretty good quality gas
i just run run Sunnoco Purple 110 now and get it nicely priced here
i used to run Sunnoco Blue 112, but the 110 is a pretty good quality gas
GIL
Power In The Hands Of Few
- Location
- Cullman AL
I use Benol with AV Gas and it DOES seperate quickly! I always shake can real good before filling tank.
- Location
- New York Crew
Ed from Full Spec recomended non castor based oil for race or av gas. Maxima super M, or golden spectro were his recomendations.
Dustin Mustangs
uʍop ǝpıs dn
- Location
- Holland, MI
I premix my 3:2 100LL/92 mix at 50:1 with Amsoil Dominator. Never a problem, even when stored for a week or two.
You guys will probably burn me at the stake and start a flame fest because I'm saying this but I'm going to throw it out there anyway. I've rolled my eyes over people running av gas for years now. I just don't see the point of building an engine for maximum performance and then throwing a half @ssed fuel in it. If you built it to run on race fuel, F-ing run race fuel! Av gas is basically 96 octane on the standard that we're used to seeing and even then it's not equivalent to 96 octane race fuel. It's a completely difference weight and chemical make up. It's like the people who buy a high performance sports car designed to run on premium and then put regular fuel in it and stay out of the high rpms because it's cheaper. WTF?! Serously?! If you're specifically designing an engine to run on a different fuel, might as well make it E85. It has drawbacks similar to av gas which can and have been debated in countless forums all over the web.
I can kind of understand av gas out west since 91 octane is as high as you guys get but in most places I've been to, 93 octance is the standard for premium fuels. This begs the question of why even bother with av gas that's 96 octane for a whopping 3 octane points. Then most mix the 96 with 93 to make it more like 94-95 octane. At this point, why not just run the snake oil octane boosters sold at your local auto store? You get all the drawbacks of av gas for the slightest improvement. Even straight av gas at 96 octane is just barely more than 93 and basically just insurance in the event of deto in a prolonged high speed run which very few of us even do. Plenty of people here run programmable ignitions of some sort that can be used to retard the timing enough to make a higher compression engines run safely at high rpms on pump gas.
Please don't take this the wrong way as I'm not trying to attack anyone but I don't see the point. Just throwing out my 2 cents...
I can kind of understand av gas out west since 91 octane is as high as you guys get but in most places I've been to, 93 octance is the standard for premium fuels. This begs the question of why even bother with av gas that's 96 octane for a whopping 3 octane points. Then most mix the 96 with 93 to make it more like 94-95 octane. At this point, why not just run the snake oil octane boosters sold at your local auto store? You get all the drawbacks of av gas for the slightest improvement. Even straight av gas at 96 octane is just barely more than 93 and basically just insurance in the event of deto in a prolonged high speed run which very few of us even do. Plenty of people here run programmable ignitions of some sort that can be used to retard the timing enough to make a higher compression engines run safely at high rpms on pump gas.
Please don't take this the wrong way as I'm not trying to attack anyone but I don't see the point. Just throwing out my 2 cents...
GIL
Power In The Hands Of Few
- Location
- Cullman AL
Is what I am saying is Art has me making more power than ever with ALOT less comp than I have been running. I run the MS109 for the additional power it makes in my setup. The difference in power between 100LL and MS109 is night and day. Art did port my motor for MS109 but the comp I am currentlly running with my YAK24L17 domes does not demand high octane fuel.
We are running our "pump gas" engines close to limits of pump gas when they are tuned correctly. Adding AVGAS is a cheap way to keep pistons from melting when the consumer uses last years gas or decides to ride in the winter without retuning the carb or just goes WOT on an empty tank.
fulltilt429
Delta Dog
- Location
- Pleasanton, CA
I called my local small airport, and they said its against FAA rules to buy AV gas?? How do I get it?
yama-doo
X-
- Location
- Port Saint Lucie Florida
we pull in to the local airports with 5 gal cans or our whole airboats and have no problem getting av gas and I always have two extra cans on the boat so I have run AV gas and 50/50 mixes of it in everything form my truck to my lawnmower at one time or another but don't make a habit out of that because of the cost. In general I run the cheap gas in my skis every now and then I dump some extra AV gas in to clean them out but otherwise it is to expensive for recreation riding IMHO
my engines are set up to run mild octane 93 is fine and will run on 87 if it had to and I'm not going to argue the point of octane as I see some feel strongly about it but two simple main things I have found is 1) the engines run much cooler , 2) av gas helps keep the pistons and domes form internal carbon build up witch I commonly see with 93 octane motors (mine included)
my engines are set up to run mild octane 93 is fine and will run on 87 if it had to and I'm not going to argue the point of octane as I see some feel strongly about it but two simple main things I have found is 1) the engines run much cooler , 2) av gas helps keep the pistons and domes form internal carbon build up witch I commonly see with 93 octane motors (mine included)
SUPERTUNE
Race Gas Rules
- Location
- Clearwater Fl.
Pull in with a truck and a 55 gal drum in the back and say I need some fuel for my airboat. Don't ever call them over the phone...
ger87410
How did I get here?
- Location
- Fort Worth
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Ya'll do know that 100ll contains some lead. Reportedly as an anti-knock compound. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avgas#100LL
fulltilt429
Delta Dog
- Location
- Pleasanton, CA
Haha....airboat in CA? they'll definatley know I'm full or it.
Buying av gas to use in something other than an aircraft is illegal so it's not BS but at the same time it's technically illegal to buy fuel from a normal gas station and use it in a boat or buy gas for use in farm equipment and putting it in a normal car used on the road. Last I heard, one of the small airports around here will only allow their gas to be put into an aircraft. No containers. It really just depends how paranoid the people are who sell it and no one really cares.
ger87410
How did I get here?
- Location
- Fort Worth
That's not the case in NM. Here you can readily put pump gas in off-road vehicles and/or boats. You won't be able to recover the taxes though like other states will allow.