What happened to the TNT chambers?

[masterblaster]

that pipe was shortened though and carbs were jetted fat. one point on the prop would make a diff,but would it be more than moving from stock 46s over jetted to novi 48s jetted perfect in terms of low end and response,especially if jons would have at least had a lim pipe rather than the shortened Frankenstein mod.

 

[joesuperjet]

"Frankenstein mod" .....hey now........ Don't be talkin bad about my pretty pipe. Pretty aint fast but fast sure is pretty.

or in Erik's case - ugly is slow.....and old.



JAM

 

[scottie mac]

that pipe was shortened though and carbs were jetted fat. one point on the prop would make a diff,but would it be more than moving from stock 46s over jetted to novi 48s jetted perfect in terms of low end and response,especially if jons would have at least had a lim pipe rather than the shortened Frankenstein mod.

LOL, there just isn't any getting thru to some people. Stick with your b pipe if you are happy. I don't think Tim would sell you one anyway.

Scottie

 

[masterblaster]

"Frankenstein mod" .....hey now........ Don't be talkin bad about my pretty pipe. Pretty aint fast but fast sure is pretty.

or in Erik's case - ugly is slow.....and old.



JAM

lol it wasnt that ugly just more centered at rpms.

scott, thats good cause there is no way id pay for one anyway.unnecessary for freeride altogether unless you like to piss $ in the wind. Im sure they are better for some setups in the bigbore range,i just dont think they are that big a diff on spec setups and most freeride setups.

 

[scottie mac]

Well, you are entitled to your opinion, but seeing that we actually did the testing with both set ups instead of just talking about it, we will stick to our findings. Not to mention the three quickest skis at Nationals all had the same pipe, but let me guess, race skis don't have bottom end, right?

Scottie

 

[Big Kahuna]

lol it wasnt that ugly just more centered at rpms.

scott, thats good cause there is no way id pay for one anyway.unnecessary for freeride altogether unless you like to piss $ in the wind. Im sure they are better for some setups in the bigbore range,i just dont think they are that big a diff on spec setups and most freeride setups.

That is where you are missing it. When setup right, the TNT is a great pipe that makes great power. But you know to know what you are doing or have a motor built around the pipes performance.

I can take a bone stock SJ and drop a 9-15 hooker / 12-17 freeride skat, mill the head, install a FPP B Pipe with a mod CDI or MSD Enhancer and I have built an awsome freeride ski. You cannot just put a TNT in place of the B Pipe and realize the performance gains. It takes a whole lot more than that to get the benifit.

Bottomline, these pipes are not for your average rider. They are for people who like to get everything out of a motor setup that is possible. Scottie and Joe are these type of people, Tricky (though he prefers dry pipes), Crammit, Superramjet.

 

[scottie mac]

Harrison, your kid is getting BIG!

SM

 

[Big Kahuna]

Tell me about it. I still cannot believe she will be 3 in Feb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That pic was from last spring!!!!!!!!!!

 

[scottie mac]

I know how you feel, Joe's little boys are growing like weeds. Can't believe how quickly they grow...... or how they pick up on every friggin bad word that comes out of my mouth, lol.

I sometimes think my sister in law is going to kill me.

Sorry back on topic, TNT sucks, yada, yada, yada, TNT is great, yada, yada, yada.
SM

 

[Big Kahuna]

We are really getting to that point. Isabella says things and we are like "where did she learn to put that type of sentance structure together" Just blows me away how smart they are!!!!!!!!!!

 

[scottie mac]

Just blows me away how smart they are!!!!!!!!!!

And then there is us, lol.

SM

 

[Matt_E]

race skis don't have bottom end, right?

Everyone knows this!

That's why there's the frowned-upon "race-parts". :haha: :dunno:

 

[2XLR8]

How did the TNT chambered spec Blasters do at the finals??? Did they spank all over the b piped Blasters??

 

[egbrig]

I believe that the top three quickest blasters had TNT pipes. I know because Joey or Scott borrowed the one I had.

 

[masterblaster]

I believe that the top three quickest blasters had TNT pipes. I know because Joey or Scott borrowed the one I had.

that prolly has alot to do with the analness of the top 3 finishers also.and the tuning time.
Bk I agree,thats what it takes to make these pipes worth the money"for us"
all kinds of special sauce BS.keep in mind spec class and most freeride setups are just what you described above,stock motor with a hooker and cdi.
We are talking about low to mid power and throttle response here,no one gives 1/10th a rats azz about top end here. Trust me I know these fab3 and how well they build and tune a ski. Still say jons b1 with a lim pipe and novi 48s would have been right there with the tnt boat at "wavedaze"it was already very close as it was. lets not get into what happened at a race,its irrelevant here or the argument that race skis have no low end.we know thats not true,stated better they just have more top end,but in our case......who cares

 

[jetski9010]

Update, from a reliable source, pipe design is finished and production is going to start soon. No word on specific power, but its good to have more of the best wet pipe for the yami motor.

Did you hear anything about if he made different chambers or just one type of chamber?

 

[egbrig]

I didn't get any specific word on the pipe itself. I understand the debate here, how much more power is the TNT pipe worth over a FP chamber. The TNT may not be worth it to the average joe, but for those in need of that last bit the TNT is worth it. Every one here should know it takes a certain dollar amount to get "X" amount of power but to get that last bit takes a multiple of that amount. If you don't care about a little more due vs. cost, your one up, but I have an addicition to more as do many here. If I were building a ported big bore with a good budget then the TNT would be on my list to get that last bit of bottom and mid. The TNT is not for the average freerider and thats fine, but when you've got no where else to go except for a huge expenditure then the TNT is a good connerstone.

 

[masterblaster]

that sounds close to spot on,but I wouldnt say the average joe,as much as I would say freerider. In a race a boat that is a inch faster to the first corner is worth something,in freeride it means didly squat. In a ported big bore with special sauce poured into every square inch well ....yeah,but with low to mid what are we talkin a half inch? half boat length? Is that gonna make a noticeably worth it difference for freeride...maybe? but with a spec ski/surf ski that we are talking about here ? highly doubt it
but now if I already had a few grand of pipes hangin on my wall from racing would I throw it in a spec ski/surf ski... well sure.Im not hatin on you $ ski boys,but lets call a spade a spade here.....lol

 

[scottie mac]

With all this knowledge you have Torr, I was wondering why you don't build and tune your own motors?

SM

 

[cambo au]

cant wait to hear how these go
i dont race never have and never will and neither do a lot of the guys i ride with in the surf but i reakon me and a lot of freeriders want every last hp out of there freeride boats i also think what some say is a strong bottom is actually a strong mid range when you watch good guys like TC, Ross and Pierre they are all in the mid range when they are out there slashing waves and preparing for a trick