90% of Lake Cumberland (KY) ramps to be unusable

SuperJETT

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This is a big deal, they mentioned tonight on the news that the new summer water level will be 43 feet below the tree line.

If the dam were to break, look out Nashville!



FRANKFORT, Ky. -- Fearing a dam break that could cause catastrophic flooding in Kentucky and Tennessee, the Army Corps of Engineers began lowering the water level on Lake Cumberland on Monday.

The measure was aimed at reducing pressure on the weakened 240-foot-high dam, said Lt. Col. Steven J. Roemhildt, commander of the Corps of Engineers' Nashville office.


"We must take this emergency action to reduce risk to the public and to the dam itself," he said in a statement.

If the Wolf Creek Dam, which is nearly a mile long, were to break, flooding in communities downstream along the Cumberland River could kill people and cause an estimated $3.4 billion in damage, Roemhildt said. Cities along the Cumberland include Nashville, Tenn., whose metro area contains 1.4 million people.

Corps spokesman Bill Peoples said failure of the dam was not imminent. But he said people should have evacuation plans ready in Nashville and other downstream communities, including Burkesville in Kentucky and Celina, Carthage, Clarksville, Gallatin and Hendersonville in Tennessee.

Nashville officials said that they have a plan in place for any flooding but that any threat would be minimized once the lake's level is lowered.

"We have re-reviewed some of the plan and addressed specific things that may need to be included if there's a breach in the dam," said Amanda Sluss, a spokeswoman for the city Office of Emergency Management.

The dam, which has a concrete core surrounded by earth, was built near Jamestown in the early 1950s. The lake it holds back was created as part of a federal plan to control floods along the Ohio and Mississippi rivers.

Two recent studies raised questions about the dam's integrity, Roemhildt said.

Water has been seeping under the dam and eroding the limestone on which the concrete rests, he said. He said crews were pumping grout into the ground to counter the erosion.

Reducing the water level could have a major ecological and economic effect as well. Roemhildt said people can expect fish kills because of a rise in water temperature, and boats at marinas could be left high and dry.

Kentucky Commerce Secretary George Ward said as many as 90 percent of the launching ramps will be unusable because they won't reach the water's surface.

Lake Cumberland, about 100 miles southeast of Louisville and one of the nation's largest freshwater reservoirs, is a popular destination for boaters. A thriving houseboat industry has sprung up around the lake, which has more than 1,000 miles of shoreline.

At a marina near Russell Springs, workers spent Monday moving million-dollar houseboats to moorings where they can stay afloat after the water recedes.

"We're kind of at a loss," said Estelee Slusser, who operates the Alligator Dock No. 1 marina. "It has just happened so quickly. We really don't know what to do."

The Army Corps notified local officials and business owners before making the plan public Monday. Slusser said she learned of it Friday.

"We spent the whole day yesterday on the phone with customers, trying to calm them down," she said.
 

keefer

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Man that would make some kind of wave huh? I be even I could pull my first and last backy of that:skull2:. That is going to suck for all the people up there. I bet there will be quite a few people who end up with a boat in the mud if they are going to drop it quickly. Now would be a good time to be in the drydocking busininess.
 
Can you amagine the waterfall after the water drops another 30 feet... WOW that would be amazing.... Kinda makes me want to borrow a couch for a weekend and go on a trip.. I still have all my maps from the Jam.. LOL
 

accbr

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Lexington, KY
It's a big lake, but 43 feet below the trees is alot. The Alligator docks I usually go too won't have any ramps that reach the water. They just added about 100 slips there so I don't know what they're gonna do with the boats. Alligator 1 is in a shallow part of the lake already. There's a few docks up in the river below Cumberland falls that will be dry. This will make the whitewater run below the falls longer, but there will have to be alot of rain to make it runnable. I guess more people will be going to Laurel Lake. This sucks.
 

accbr

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Lexington, KY
Can you amagine the waterfall after the water drops another 30 feet... WOW that would be amazing.... Kinda makes me want to borrow a couch for a weekend and go on a trip.. I still have all my maps from the Jam.. LOL

The water at 76 falls in the summer is only about 40 feet deep, so you probably won't be able to get to them unless your on a jet ski.
 
The water at 76 falls in the summer is only about 40 feet deep, so you probably won't be able to get to them unless your on a jet ski.

Yea but if they drop it 43 feet below the tree line then that is only like 20 or 25 feet from normal summer pool isn't it??? The last time I was there the water was quite a ways from the tree line.
 

accbr

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Lexington, KY
Summer pool is just a couple feet below the trees. They drop it about 30 feet for the winter. Starts coming up in May, and goes back down in September. They're leaving just enough water so they can still make power at the dam. Unless there is a really bad drought they can't lower it more that 50 feet because of all the water that is fed into it. There's a houseboat that is beached at the falls right now. Guess the owner is screwed.

http://lakecumberland.com/stats.php
 

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Summer pool is just a couple feet below the trees. They drop it about 30 feet for the winter. Starts coming up in May, and goes back down in September. They're leaving just enough water so they can still make power at the dam. Unless there is a really bad drought they can't lower it more that 50 feet because of all the water that is fed into it. There's a houseboat that is beached at the falls right now. Guess the owner is screwed.

http://lakecumberland.com/stats.php

No actually now it really is a HOUSEboat.
 

accbr

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Lexington, KY
Yep. Just level it out, and open a bar. He'd make a fortune.

disclaimer : I don't condone drinking on the water, but if you've ever been to 76 falls on a holiday weekend you'd understand. :sneaky:
 
The last time I was there it was mid may and the water was quite a ways from the trees so that would explain it.

About the house boat I guess I will be able to see it if I make a trip of it this summer... LOL
 

accbr

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Lexington, KY
What if the water isn't there ?
Kind of like "there is no spoon" :biggthumpup:

You'll have to park and walk to the bar. :biggthumpup: They'll be a bunch of drunks stumbling around in the mud. I'll have to get my maps out and see how deep the water is in the channel leading to the falls. I know the water below the falls is only around 40 feet deep. I know there's some islands that will pop up in the middle of the lake.


This is a catastrophe to the marine environment of that region and subsequently the surrounding wildlife.

Cumberland is a popular lake for striper fishing. There's alot of outfitters around there that will be hurt by this. The campground right below the dam is usually booked up for the summer. Trout fishing below the dam won't be the same if they have to keep the flood gates open more.
 

accbr

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Lexington, KY
When are you people going to learn how to build a dam?


Probably after this one breaks. :biggrin: There's some senators and representatives that think it would be better to just build another one 'upstream' I guess they've never been to the lake, since the current dam isn't really the end of the lake. They'd have to build two dams to block off both of the channels that flow towards the dam. Then you'd have two lakes.
 
Our family has a cabin down there. This sucks. The ramp they use is not going to even come close to the water. I haven't talked to them yet but it will be interesting to see what they do.
 
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