Freestyle Keep breaking steering nozzles. WHY?!?

[mike b]

Anybody have similar issue and find out what it is? Was using a stock gp1200 plastic one, got a protec metal one now but don't want to break it. setup is a 155 skat setback pump, with bpipe coupler, motor is a TPE 1105 with all the goodies. Is the plastic just not strong enough or an issue on my ski somewhere. I don't want to keep fighting this issue with more expensive ones. Already have to buy my buddy a new one since I was borrowing his. Steering cable seems smooth. Any help appreciated

 

[Roseand]

Where are they breaking?

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[Jetfiend]

Must be all that power!

 

[Big Kahuna]

Wrap with carbon.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Reduction nozzle also.

 

[mike b]

Must be all that power!

Bout time you recognize lol

And @Big Kahuna I thought about doing that too. If I do this on the steering nozzle which is powdercoated black do I just scuff up just to get a bite or do I need to sand all the way down/sand blast the nozzle before?

And big question. WHY?? Is it so much thrust and not able to escape and boom or is it bad luck I got two week nozzles? I have seen plastic ones on COMP skis too and they hold up

 

[mike b]

@JetFelcher Man why'd you change your screen name. Don't start that chit where you change it all the time like your avatars

 

[Jetfiend]

@JetFelcher Man why'd you change your screen name. Don't start that chit where you change it all the time like your avatars

Wasn't my doing, some mean spirited individual payed one of the mods to do it..

Don't you worry Mikee, there will be plenty of new avatars this season!


@Aquaholic

 

[mike b]

Wasn't my doing, some mean spirited individual payed one of the mods to do it..

Don't you worry Mikee, there will be plenty of new avatars this season!


@Aquaholic

You know that would require pictures, those would need to be taken at the lake, which would mean you have to actually go to the lake and ride. Maybe this yr will be better for you with Trumps help lmao

 

[Harbor]

Rosand had a good point, where are they breaking ? Pics would be good too.... Aside from that, the ones that break in the surf are from hitting bottom. I seem to remember you saying the lake you ride is really shallow, like 6 feet or something, dunno... Could you be hitting bottom and not know it ?

 

[mike b]

Rosand had a good point, where are they breaking ? Pics would be good too.... Aside from that, the ones that break in the surf are from hitting bottom. I seem to remember you saying the lake you ride is really shallow, like 6 feet or something, dunno... Could you be hitting bottom and not know it ?

Neither time have been on contact. I do two warm up laps to get the motor warm then some blips to clear the motor. Then play. Last time was on my third spin. This time was at the end of my warm up on the first few braps to hop out the water. Neither time was I near the bottom. Lake us overhead Noe. No contact is being made.

 

[Ducky]

Maybe your cables are not properly adjusted? Maybe the steering cable has more throw even after the nozzle bottoms out side to side?

 

[mike b]

They aren't even breaking the same way. First one I had bars cranked to the left for a 360. Second time bars were straight and I was just brapping to clear it out before I tried a setup wake

 

[mike b]

Maybe your cables are not properly adjusted? Maybe the steering cable has more throw even after the nozzle bottoms out side to side?

I don't see how that would happen but anything is possible. Not too sure how to check that. Just crank the bar and disconnect and see if any throw remaining? The Buzzard was tearing it up on my ski and both times I blew the nozzles apart I was just beginning. First few minutes of the day. As if the plastic was cold and the thrust blew it apart. Only thing I can think of. But the cable I will check. I have a second cable I could use. My thing is I don't want to change a bunch of things and never know what the issue is and still keep the parts on the shelf

 

[ph1lthy11y]

When you turn the bars all the way either side is the steering nozzle hitting or stopping on the exit nozzle ? Or another idea maybe the b pipe coupling is in the way try with out for a bit ?

 

[mike b]

When you turn the bars all the way either side is the steering nozzle hitting or stopping on the exit nozzle ? Or another idea maybe the b pipe coupling is in the way try with out for a bit ?

Yeah I am thinking about ditching it and just running the nozzle.

 

[mike b]

And no contact on the reduction nozzle but I will verify tomorrow

 

[N3vrSat1sfied]

both bolts staying in? I have broke a couple pro tec nozzles due to the bottom bolt taking a swim. Now I have a tube of red lock tite on each bolt and torque seal so I can tell if they move.

 

[eastcoastjumper]

Why are your nozzles breaking?

Because it's sun aged plastic from 15 years ago.

Buy a new one and make sure the clearances check out.

Make sure it has enough room by the x metal arm. ***The holes have slop so push/pull on it and really make sure it doesn't rub like it still could while under load of the thrust.

Steer left/right on the bars while keeping your other hand on the nozzle putting force against it. While doing that you'll see the slop and if it's actually shifting and rubbing.


The one picture you posted it broke right by the x metal arm. You might just have to Dremel the plastic nozzle slightly to give a hair more clearance


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[jo5hi3]

All full lock is it contacting the hose clamp?

 

[eastcoastjumper]

That's where the crack started from hitting the arm. The other shi tty nozzle looks like it could be a raider nozzle and it's just older plastic


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