opnions on shortning hull

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Goose

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Im doing a topdeck conversion right now thinking of the options i have to go about since ill have the hull apart.i was thinking about shortning the hull 2 inches or so but i have never ridden a ski to see how it handles.how will it effect my rolls and all?also any little things you would do to the hull if it was yours before i put the top on
thanls
 
Takeastand SJ

Takeastand SJ

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Washington
My friend had a xft shortened hull and he didn't like it for anything but doing backflips, it made it really squirrely and effected his rolls.
 
SuperJETT

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Goose said:
Im doing a topdeck conversion right now thinking of the options i have to go about since ill have the hull apart.i was thinking about shortning the hull 2 inches or so but i have never ridden a ski to see how it handles.how will it effect my rolls and all?also any little things you would do to the hull if it was yours before i put the top on
thanls
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Check this thread.
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/7932
 
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Freestyleriverrat

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If I were building a hull I would opt against it. IMO if you want a hull that is better all around make the nose extermely light and spend most of your efforts centering the weight. A good trim system and light nose will make the ski easier to rotate w/o compromising high speed stability or overall rideablity. On Malones ski if you blip the gas the nose comes right up and wants to smack you in the face. His ski would still carve but then again he is dealing with a cut SXR bottom not a cut SJ bottom. Way different. I think the SJ would just be to loose and squirly.
 
waterfreak

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Once you get used to it, it's hard to go back to regular lenght. I love mine and would only consider building another shorter hull for myself although I would not reccommend it for everyone, especially the novice rider
 
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Freestyleriverrat

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waterfreak said:
Once you get used to it, it's hard to go back to regular lenght. I love mine and would only consider building another shorter hull for myself although I would not reccommend it for everyone, especially the novice rider
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How much shorter is your Backflip hull Steve?

I ahve heard that Sergio has done allot of R&D on this subject and can tell you about how much to take off depending on your weight.
 
waterfreak

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Freestyleriverrat said:
How much shorter is your Backflip hull Steve?

I ahve heard that Sergio has done allot of R&D on this subject and can tell you about how much to take off depending on your weight.
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Mine is 3 1/2 inches shorter and I weigh a wopping 220 lbs!:Banane01: It is hard now to go back to my regular lenght hull
 
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Goose

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not to change the subject but what exhaust does everyone think would be best front and rear,just front,or just rear side,and dual scuppers is their any advantage of dumping them into the pump area instead out out the back or any disadvantages
 
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Freestyleriverrat

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Goose said:
not to change the subject but what exhaust does everyone think would be best front and rear,just front,or just rear side,and dual scuppers is their any advantage of dumping them into the pump area instead out out the back or any disadvantages
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Run the scuppers in the pump area. Does not have any adverse effects on their function. They will not work properly if mounted on an angle, unless they are internal valves. I would just run a front exhaust. That is what I ran on my squarenose and it worked fine for me. Not very loud and I was running a XMW waterbox. Saves some weight as well.
 
freestylegeek

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Like Steve said, the short hull is not for everyone.
However, "I" believe some of the adverse effects can be compensated for by moving the footholds forward, as well as the pole pivot point. On my hull, the footholds are 2" farther forward, and the pivot bracket is 1.5" farther. Some people don't like the feel of a short pole, so it might not be for everyone, but I for one can't wait to roll that sucker!

Like Romack said, if the short hull is not so cool, you can always slap on some extensions and be back to stock length.
 
grahammy

grahammy

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Northampton, U.K.
I hope its better. Just shortened my hull be 2". Glassing finished, foaming in a day or so, back opn water in say 10 days. Its a major job though. I takes a real leap of faith and when the 2 ends are sat on the floor, you think oh s***, is this going back together.....
 
Rickster

Rickster

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Bay of Plenty, NZ
sflsurfrider said:
its definately a different ride that takes getting used to. just planing off is a lot of work compared to a stock length boat.
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:sneaky:

waterfreak said:
Once you get used to it, it's hard to go back to regular lenght. I love mine and would only consider building another shorter hull for myself although I would not reccommend it for everyone, especially the novice rider.
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It is amazing how quickly the nose wants to come up, especially when you put 250 lbs on the back.:Banane01: :woot: :banghead:

I would look at shortening a hull, but it definitely is not for everyone.
 
Rickster

Rickster

Matakana Menace
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Bay of Plenty, NZ
Freestyleriverrat said:
Run the scuppers in the pump area. Does not have any adverse effects on their function. They will not work properly if mounted on an angle, unless they are internal valves. I would just run a front exhaust. That is what I ran on my squarenose and it worked fine for me. Not very loud and I was running a XMW waterbox. Saves some weight as well.
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I agree on running the scuppers in the pump area, but I call :bs2: on saying a scupper will not work properly if mounted on an angle.

You just cannot mount them in a conventional way, and they do not need to have internal valves.:rolleyes:
 
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