Custom Made Freestyle Hulls

[douglee25]

Honestly, if you wanted to sell a good number of hulls, I would think price would have to be very low compared to other companies. I'm talking in the $2500 to $3000 region. With pricing that low, I'm not sure what your margins would be? Is pricing like this possible with something you manufacture?

Doug

 

[superramjet]

i would like one that weighs 50lbs, never breaks and cost around $1000

 

[PancakePete]

i would like one that weighs 50lbs, never breaks and cost around $1000

:haha: I think that is in Braptopia ! :headbang:

 

[waterfreak]

Maybe I need to move the factory to China:clown:

 

[RoyalFlush@PCB]

Maybe I need to move the factory to China:clown:

Just hire some of the illegals that are down your way...:biggrin:

That's what alot of the condo contractors are doing up here... :bs2:

 

[superramjet]

how about an abs hull

 

[chad]

how about ....

a hull from what ever platform yama/ kawi , that all of the parts transfered over . no modifications needed.

:biggthumpup:

 

[snowxr]

Well, I can produce a replica of the SXIpro hull for under $2500 using fiberglass chopper gun manufacturing. No, it won't be as light as my carbon hull, but it would be very easy to modify. I'm thinking that at this point if someone wants to get one I would be willing to add reinforcement, footholds, tubbies, and a couple hand holds without much trouble.
A hull built this way will not have the same qualities as a WCF or a XTF, but at this price, I'm thinking of this more as a budget builders kit. I could ship the parts in a box, and the builder adds foam, scupper, hull extensions ( or resection) etc. I'd like to have some motor mount options, too.

And yes, I would like to build a superjet, too. At this time I am considdering it, but tooling costs may be an issue.

What do you all think of this?

 

[Island750]

In all honesty, not building a Superjet you will have a VERY limited market. I have ridden Kawis for 14 years, and even I want a Superjet for freestyle/freeride. That kawi hull is ok, but not at the level of a SJ.
just my .02

 

[douglee25]

Well, I can produce a replica of the SXIpro hull for under $2500 using fiberglass chopper gun manufacturing. No, it won't be as light as my carbon hull, but it would be very easy to modify. I'm thinking that at this point if someone wants to get one I would be willing to add reinforcement, footholds, tubbies, and a couple hand holds without much trouble.
A hull built this way will not have the same qualities as a WCF or a XTF, but at this price, I'm thinking of this more as a budget builders kit. I could ship the parts in a box, and the builder adds foam, scupper, hull extensions ( or resection) etc. I'd like to have some motor mount options, too.

And yes, I would like to build a superjet, too. At this time I am considdering it, but tooling costs may be an issue.

What do you all think of this?

The cost is right, but the platform isn't. People give away SXI hulls at times. They are nice. I own one myself. The superjet platform is just better. What tooling costs are you looking at for the sj?

Doug

 

[FL-cracker]

I just dont like the way the SXI hulls handle, and it sounds to me like it wouldnt do much good to have a hull that is built from a Chopper gun. Then It wouldnt even be a light weight hull? I dunno. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

 

[Matt_E]

I would not spend money on a choppergun aftermarket hull.
IMHO, a reinforced stocker is money better spent.

 

[CG Racing]

Well, I can produce a replica of the SXIpro hull for under $2500 using fiberglass chopper gun manufacturing. No, it won't be as light as my carbon hull, but it would be very easy to modify. I'm thinking that at this point if someone wants to get one I would be willing to add reinforcement, footholds, tubbies, and a couple hand holds without much trouble.
A hull built this way will not have the same qualities as a WCF or a XTF, but at this price, I'm thinking of this more as a budget builders kit. I could ship the parts in a box, and the builder adds foam, scupper, hull extensions ( or resection) etc. I'd like to have some motor mount options, too.

And yes, I would like to build a superjet, too. At this time I am considdering it, but tooling costs may be an issue.

What do you all think of this?

Good Luck:biggthumpup:

 

[yamaslut]

I would just reccommend that you make one and let some crazy, insane surf rider...I mean Pancaker put it to the test.

These hulls are way too much work to sell cheap. Unless you can sub it out to some 3rd world country
just my .02!

good idea.... I know someone :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

:biggthumpup: pancake already has a nice hull

 

[yamaslut]

i would like one that weighs 50lbs, never breaks and cost around $1000

amen:hail:

 

[snowxr]

What tooling costs are you looking at for the sj?

Doug

First off I would need a good bare superjet hull to true make a mold from. Next there is all the labor and materials needed to make the molds. It's not cheap, especially considdering that not many people are in the market/ willing to pay for a hull.

Kurt

 

[douglee25]

First off I would need a good bare superjet hull to true make a mold from. Next there is all the labor and materials needed to make the molds. It's not cheap, especially considdering that not many people are in the market/ willing to pay for a hull.

Kurt

I would love for someone else to get in the market. I think the jetski market can benefit from as many individuals that can service us.

Is there anyone that could help him out with a bare hull? Maybe you could get a drastic discount for the lending him the hull?

Just a thought.

Doug

 

[Rickster]

especially considdering that not many people are in the market/ willing to pay for a hull.

Kurt

The problem is that there is no benefit going from an OEM RN to a chop gun RN.

Chopped hulls cannot be as strong as handlaid fiberglass or bagged Carbon Fiber hulls, so why not just keep with reinforced OEM for a fraction of the cost..

Now if you are talking hand laid Fiberglass or bagged carbon fiber, then there is structural or weight benefits for doing so.

 

[douglee25]

The problem is that there is no benefit going from an OEM RN to a chop gun RN.

Chopped hulls cannot be as strong as handlaid fiberglass or bagged Carbon Fiber hulls, so why not just keep with reinforced OEM for a fraction of the cost..

Now if you are talking hand laid Fiberglass or bagged carbon fiber, then there is structural or weight benefits for doing so.

Kurt,

Can you do handlaid instead of chopped gun?

Doug

 

[yamaslut]

my opinion as a person who has been in manufacturing for 15 years, so take it as you want....

The the problem w/ making quality parts in this buisness, is market is just not big enough and there is not enough money in this sport to fund a decent R&D program... Christ, why would someone spend $100,000.00 (or whatever) to design a perfect hull, unbreakable hull that weighs 40lbs when they will only sell enough to pay for the electric bill at the manufacturing facility??? That is just not gonna keep the doors open

IMO there are enough replica hulls available already, they just need to be refined, expanded upon and prices lowered... I don't know too much about running a buisness, but to me, it would seem like a bad thing to have so many different hulls available, when the industy doesn't have a market for them... In turn you just have more companies selling less product, making each company less able to expand or make money on their efforts.. I may be wrong, but it's just a way of thinking about it... I understand flooding the market makes things cheaper too, but look at the WAL MART philosophy... they have forced all these company's to have their stuff made in China just to compete... (basicly trying to run companies out of buisness and making company's make products of less quality).

It just looks like our sport is too small for the latest in technology... Imagine if we had money like F1?? We could really make quality parts that will last, be light weight and made to a standard we can't even imagine.. Actaully there is one hull out there that almost lives up to those standards... the Light-Weight hull and it's $13k (before delivery)