Best Li-Fe battery I have seen so far

Waternut

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I may be wrong, but it sounds like the cells may not be consistent after initial cycling from this particular manufacturer. Like not matched possibly? Matching isn't super important, but it makes me wonder how they are manufactured. Individual cells usually aren't that far out as to effect a rest time that much. But then again these cells are different than what we used to use in rc car racing. I had a battery sponsor and I got schooled on battery matching, but like said, I'm sure these have totally different characteristics. Just my random .02

Matt bought the same charger I have and that charger is supposed to balance the cells as it charges.
 

Matt_E

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Meh. I got two gallons out of it this time. That won't work for me. The battery works fine and cranks the engine plenty fast. But once voltage drops too low, the ignition won't fire.
It's up for sale, either battery + charger or just the battery. If I keep the charger, I may decide to get the 500cca model later.
 

Matt_E

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I have the LFX12. You wont have a problem with the MSD TL because it will keep firing as long as you can crank it. Not so with the ATP setup.
 

Waternut

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I have the LFX12. You wont have a problem with the MSD TL because it will keep firing as long as you can crank it. Not so with the ATP setup.

Oh wow that blows... How's that possible? These batteries maintain a higher voltage when they're considered dead than most lead acid batteries do when fully charged...
 

Matt_E

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Starting a high compression PWC motor under load requires a lot of current. I think it would be a lot better with the bigger models.
If I do it again, I'll get one of the LFX24 models (about 420-500cca). Right now I don't have the patience and money to mess with it.
 

Waternut

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Starting a high compression PWC motor under load requires a lot of current. I think it would be a lot better with the bigger models.
If I do it again, I'll get one of the LFX24 models (about 420-500cca). Right now I don't have the patience and money to mess with it.

Ok. I didn't fully understand what you said at first. I thought you meant that it would still crank the engine but wouldn't produce a spark because the voltage was too low.

I took mine out today and it fired up the engine just fine. I ran my bilge pump the whole time. I was starting it a good bit to give it a real trial by fire. I probably cranked the engine in the water at least 10 times and burned about 1.5 gallons. It seemed like the battery was cranking slower at the end though and after 10 minutes my resting voltage was 13.15 (45% life left). It works but that's no where near 14 amp/hr.
 
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Ok. I didn't fully understand what you said at first. I thought you meant that it would still crank the engine but wouldn't produce a spark because the voltage was too low.

I took mine out today and it fired up the engine just fine. I ran my bilge pump the whole time. I was starting it a good bit to give it a real trial by fire. I probably cranked the engine in the water at least 10 times and burned about 1.5 gallons. It seemed like the battery was cranking slower at the end though and after 10 minutes my resting voltage was 13.15 (45% life left). It works but that's no where near 14 amp/hr.

Are you running total loss? what size did you go with?

Im thinking of going with 2 x 14s and wiring them in parallel...
 

Waternut

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I went with a 14a/h version. However, I topped off the battery when I pulled it out of the box and it only reached 14.0v. Then I cranked the battery a bunch to make sure everything worked and charged it back up before going out and it only reached 14.0v again. I had planned to contact Shorai about it but after my use today, it charged up to 14.4v like it's supposed to. I'll take it out again tomorrow and see if it lasts longer. I did notice that the handling on my hull changed massively with this battery since I dropped 14 lbs in the nose and now it rides nose high.

I have to ask why you would wire 2 14's together in parallel for $153 each when you buy a single 24a/h battery for $250 and a 27a/h battery for $280. They have a 36a/h battery too but it doesn't look like it's in stock yet. I could see having a battery switch for emergencies but parallel seems silly.

FYI...after 20 minutes of charging, my battery was still taking a charge but it was close to full again. I didn't check it again until an hour had passed and it was completely full again by then.
 
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Yea I would prefer to just use one, but I am going to be using a powerfactor pipe and water box and wont really have a good spot to fit a full size battery, but i could fit a small one each side up the back near the scupper and the other under the exhuast, Just a plan at this stage. If you find you get enough power out of one 14 I will prob just go with that. cost isnt really a big concern I just want everything set up perfect and hate worring about flat battery....
 

JamesG

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It recommends the 12 cell for the sxr engine. Damn only 80 bucks more than my current battery. Seems like an awesome deal. I'm waiting for the "but..."
 
I did not pull the trigger on the ballistics battery just yet, because right before I was going to order it I found a sweet deal on a MSD total loss system and was hoping I would hear some reviews before I threw coin at it. I dont want to be in the same situation Matt was in.

So have any of you guys tried the ballistics yet? I was going to order the 12 cell that way there was no regrets.
 

D-Roc

I forgot!
scott killed his 155cca yesterday. the night before he left the TL on for 4 hours and the battery was flat dead. he charged it up but not fully because it got unplugged on the campsite. So he was finally able to kill it on a day ride. the positive terminal is f-ed up too. He is going to try it out again today, he charged it again last night. On friday we rode for 2 hours and then i cranked his ski over for close to a minute without killing it. Not sure what you guys can do with this info. but that is where scotts battery status is at. I will let you know if it still works today after being killed, halfcharged, re-killed, then fully charged and having the positive terminal 1/2 rip out.
 
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D-Roc

I forgot!
well we need to test these batteries on more than just three skis. Scott charged his battery last night with the battery tender 2amp and left it on for hours after it hit float mode. So yeah we are pretty much doing everything against the instructions. I don't know if he tried it out today because we didn't ride together. I will find out if he tried it again after the longweekend of abuse.
 

scotts2t

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It is still fully charged waiting to go, I will update when I put it back in. One failed roll attempt and like d-roc said the positive terminal got stressed/bent. Time will tell to see how long the battery is going to last but I'm beating the crap out of it...
 
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