Yamax2?

WFO Speedracer

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No Really I want to know,I know why I put the Rotax in mine,I had everything here,it didn't cost me anything and the whole thing is totally reversible if I decide to go back with a Kawi setup later.I also have all the mod parts for that engine and the I know how to tune it.85hp in stock form is a good place to start from IMO.Now what are the positives to plugging in a Yami engine into that boat especially a 701? A 760 now that would make somewhat more sense to me,a 701 I just don't get,plus if you do mod it for a 701,its not easily reversable and you still have to spend quite a few dollars on parts to make enough power to be any fun.
 

yamanube

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A) the kawasaki 650 motor SUCKS
B) the yamaha motor has much better out of the box power than almost all of kawasakis motors
C) performance parts for the yamaha are EVERYWHERE used and new
D) they make much better power with the same parts/work and displacement than the kawasaki engines
E) ask the japanese, they are doing it in their freestyle X2's there must be some reason

just like the thread says, more bang for your buck especially in a freestyle app. a 701 is way better with bolt ons than a 650/750 and respond much better to mods

do this, ride a kawasaki 650sx with a pipe, then ride a 650 superjet with a pipe, then ride a kawasaki 750 with a pipe, the ride at 701 or 760 with a pipe which is better?

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BlueBreadTruck

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I agree somewhat... a 701 is MUCH stronger than a 650....and with a Pipe it runs strong, however a kawasaki 750 with an equally good pipe would pull harder. especially if its not a big pin (top end porting vs 701 low end)
 

extreemthrottle

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A) the kawasaki 650 motor SUCKS
B) the yamaha motor has much better out of the box power than almost all of kawasakis motors
C) performance parts for the yamaha are EVERYWHERE used and new
D) they make much better power with the same parts/work and displacement than the kawasaki engines
E) ask the japanese, they are doing it in their freestyle X2's there must be some reason

just like the thread says, more bang for your buck especially in a freestyle app. a 701 is way better with bolt ons than a 650/750 and respond much better to mods

do this, ride a kawasaki 650sx with a pipe, then ride a 650 superjet with a pipe, then ride a kawasaki 750 with a pipe, the ride at 701 or 760 with a pipe which is better?

i have to disagree with you , the kawi twin platform,either 650 or 750 is one of the most reliable motors out there, its just as reliable as the yamaha twins (61x). thats why they put those motors in so many skis for so long.

and as far as bottom end i still have'nt ridden a ski with similar mods to either my old 650sx or my old x-2, that had the brap we all look for. i got a b-1 now with more mods and has less bottom end and had more problems then both of the others combined! its all an opinion and they're like a$$holes, everyone's got one.

yes the yamaha a/m parts are more available, and there were probably more yamahas sold over the last 15 years than kawi,which would explain the availablility of new and used parts.. just my two cents..
 

WFO Speedracer

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Truefully I want to hear why a 701 swap makes more sense than a 750 swap.I know the 750 pulls harder,parts are plentiful,its a bolt in,all the electronics swap over,it goes in just like it was made to be in there.
 

yamanube

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I have never ridden a 650 with any amount of bolt ons that had an acceptable amount of low end power and not even close to what my 701 was stock. I have only ridden one 750, it was a dual carb in great shape and it was a turd down low, reasonable mid range and good top end. It just seems that kawasaki motors have a different powerband, even the SXR doesnt have the low end grunt I was hoping it would. If the kawasaki 750 engine was the powerhouse you claim it is I would think you would see more 750sx(I)(Pro) set up for freestyle but they are fazed out. IMO I think the ONLY reason it is the desired choise for an X2 IS because it bolts in, I would bet if the 701/760 bolted into an X2 you guys would be singing a different tune!
 
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WFO Speedracer

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Lets compare apples and apples shall we,if you want to talk SX or X2 vs SJ lets compare 650 to 650,not 65o to 701 hmmmmmmmm not that much to talk about is there?
 

yamanube

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Lets compare apples and apples shall we,if you want to talk SX or X2 vs SJ lets compare 650 to 650,not 65o to 701 hmmmmmmmm not that much to talk about is there?

Sure
yamaha 650 > kawasaki 650
yamaha 760 > kawasaki 750
yamaha 800 ? kawasaki 800

WEDOO Im surprised you are not on my side, it seems the only reason you have skis is so you can swap in some wierd ass motor combo to make a never ending project out of it. You ride a 300, and I dont even want to bring up the wierd ass sitdown with a pole idea you had.
 
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