Super Jet gummy epoxy

[Al//gsx//sj]

any body have experience with the Pro-Glass F-2400 resin system? it has the consistency of syrup and dries gummy. the website states "It is a non-brittle, waterproof system". the picture shows what dripped out. will the glass stick to this stuff?

 

[#ZERO]

Stuff is obviously junk.

Where is that crack located on your hull?

 

[Al//gsx//sj]

no crack, that's the front of my footholds. just got finished installing them. trying to figure out if i should remove it before i lay the glass...

 

[#ZERO]

I would scrape that crap off and scuff clean the surface before laying your glass down.

 

[SUPERJET-113]

What kind of holds are those?

 

[Berky]

It's expensive but Westsystems epoxy is good for stuff like that , just make sure the ratio is correct and it is mixed well @ 60F or above.

 

[mademan9]

i think they are kickers from blowsion. i know thats were he got the epoxy. he tried mixing that stuff a couple times and it still came out gummy.

 

[Al//gsx//sj]

yep, kickers. they fit really good and i think even better once it's turfed. it's all good, i got the gummy stuff removed... wonder who has someone left over epoxy from their recent build i can have? hint, hint :smile:

 

[mademan9]

Lol , no problem bro. I'll pick some up from my office tomorrow.

 

[swapmeet]

Is that epoxy resin or polyester?

If its epoxy I have learned that the mixing requirements are very specific because of some issues I had on my build.
This is what I learnd after talking with UScomposites tech support for about 20min.

1. When mixing into your cup, add/ pump hardener first, and spread it around the sides etc. You don't want the resin touching the walls, becuase it won't get any hardener to it, and therefore never cure correctly.

2. DO NOT VARY from the ratio. Be very careful with your measurements. If cold, do not use pumps because the resin is too frim to pump propperly. If you over harden, the mixture will be rubbery once it cures. To little and... it doesn't cure correctly.

2.5The ambient temprature for the first two hours is critcal for propper curing. Anything over 50 is ok. If necessary, use a heat gun under the mixing bowl to help facilitate the chemical reaction.

3. Mix/ stir the resin and hardener for 5 min. at the mininum. It takes that long to get the it mixed propperly ( I was mixing for 1 min or less.)

Hope this helps... also, if you don't want to grind, scrape all that resin off, you can use a cloth soaked in Acetone and wipe away the rubbery layers, assuming its hardened in some areas and not others. If its rubbery all over you may be hosed.

And if its polyester resin..... I got nuthin.

 

[Al//gsx//sj]

i guess resin? I measured both parts using an oz. scale, stir for 1 min, then transfer to a second cup and stir another minute. but did not pay attention which i poured in the cup first, so that might be the issue. when I selected the Kicker footholds, Pro-Glass and their mat glue auto-popped at the bottom of the screen under “related products”. Saw “premium epoxy system” on the label and figured that’s what I needed…below is what i got from FICI composites website.

PRO GLAS F-2400 STRUCTURAL 40 MINUTE ADHESIVE RESIN/HARDENER
F-2400 Structural Adhesive Resin and hardener is an adhesive system that executes
high quality results within a wide variety of materials including metal, composites, wood,
concrete, many plastics and most hard surfaces.
It is a two part adhesive resin and hardener system that is designed to provide quality
results in adverse conditions. It is a non-brittle, waterproof system. F-2400 Structural
Adhesive Resin will cure without shrinkage at any thickness.
F-2400 Structural Adhesive is golden in color and cures to a clear coat when polished/
varnished. It exhibits outstanding adhesion and performance on a wide spectrum of
materials. Working time is approximately an hour with
tack-free in 6 hours.

 

[Al//gsx//sj]

Got in touch with a tech/product support representative at Fiberlay to find out about this product. Very informative and learned a few things. Long story short, this product is not ideal for this type of application. i.e., as an adhesive or for laying glass using their 1 to 1 ratio. It is geared more towards wooden surfaces that exhibit contraction/expansion during weather changes. They suggested something around 3 or 4 to 1 ratio like West systems…just wanted to throw that info out there.

 

[Magnum Mike]

I thought you were suppose to measure by volume not weight (hence pumps.) Are the densitys the same so measuring by weight would be the same ratio as measuring by volume?

 

[Al//gsx//sj]

I asked him the same question, in this case (1 to 1) he said it was negligible. first batch was by volume, second and third attempt by weight and ended up with the same results, semi-hard surface. nothing compared to the West systems i used, hard and easly sanded when cured.

 

[MANFISH66]

resins, epoxys, fiberglass, composites.... common get with the times, nobody uses that stuff anymore......!:beerchug: