Freestyle kill switch....

[dieseltwitch]

OK so i tried to search for this but not really knowing what to search for made that a bit hard. i notice in videos that guys aren't using kill switch tethers (sp?) any ways if i take this switch off. how do i re wire for the lack of it and how do i get the pump so that it will turn the boat when im not on it? also is there a after market start stop switch i can put in place or what do you guys do?

 

[demolition_x]

zip tie around where the clip goes so it doesn't come down.

 

[Frosty]

some peeps will turn the idle down when using a zip tie so that the boat will stall if you wipe out, instead of making the exit nozzle turn.

 

[dieseltwitch]

dont much like that idea. isnt there are spring you can put some where or something

 

[Frosty]

the older kawis used a spring on the turn plate to pull the stearing to one side so the ski would cirlce around. U could prbly rig something up.

 

[kx454]

just set up your ski with no idle, you get used to it its not that hard

 

[dieseltwitch]

I wonder if i could rig something up that would only work when the Pole is down. hmmm?

 

[Jawbreaker]

and how do i get the pump so that it will turn the boat when im not on it? also is there a after market start stop switch i can put in place or what do you guys do?

Just find a spring that you think might work and use a small drill bit to drill the side of the steering nozzle so you can attach the spring.

Here is a pic of a Jet Ski Solutions start/stop switch and a bilge switch.

 

[gj_fx1]

the older kawis used a spring on the turn plate to pull the stearing to one side so the ski would cirlce around. U could prbly rig something up.

? There was no spring on my 440. It self circled just fine.

Just by the way I once rode a kawi sit-down that had a spring on the steering
(for no apparent reason). Anyway that was annoying as crap.

 

[yankeeboy]

i got a lanyard on my ski, it must be 3 feet long and stretches to about 5ft. It wont pull out unless i fall.

 

[dieseltwitch]

i got a lanyard on my ski, it must be 3 feet long and stretches to about 5ft. It wont pull out unless i fall.

I've had subs pull mine off!

What made the 440 go around by its self.

Im not sure but one of my buddies was riding my ski and said he fell off and the lanyard stayed with the boat and it came around. never felt like just letting my ski go on its own to find out

 

[Jawbreaker]

What made the 440 go around by its self.

The pump nozzle (not steering nozzle) was longer on the left side (kinda like a flange or something) and caused the jet stream to push the ski to the right enough to turn it around.

 

[ucsspirit]

I kow when i come off my 2004 superjet it circles, bigger circles if i was going faster, and smaller when i'm going slow, never had a problem with losing my boat.

 

[SJBrit]

Just find a spring that you think might work and use a small drill bit to drill the side of the steering nozzle so you can attach the spring.

Here is a pic of a Jet Ski Solutions start/stop switch and a bilge switch.

(If those start-stop switches are as unreliable as the bilge pump switches, then I wouldn't touch them with somebody else's 10 foot pole!!)

On the subject of circling SJs, don't forget that the water is rarely flat calm - surf, boat wakes etc. It doesn't take much to knock a ski to one side or the other and make it circle differently. I once watched my ski trace long lazy S turns heading away from me (and towards a rocky shore) as boat wake after boat wake knocked it from one side to another.

The moral is: if you're riding flat water in a confined area doing the kind of tricks that you can't do with a lanyard, then wrap it around the bars. If you're catching some air off boat wakes or out in the surf and you know you're not about to pull a 50-50, then wear the damn lanyard!! I hate this macho BS the seems to suggest that wearing a lanyard is for beginners. Consider this: if your motor stops as soon as you fall then:

1) It doesn't matter if your ski ends up upside down - it's not going to suck water into the cylinders if it's not running.

2) The ski doesn't drive off without you for ages. Think about it: apart from WOT runs (buy a couch....), how often do you fall far from your ski? If the motor stops right there and then you can get back on instantly. Would you rather wait for it to start circling, and then go round and round while you swim to intercept it? (They don't start to circle right away).

In my opinion the only legitimate reason not to wear a lanyard is for tricks which would otherwise be impossible (hood tricks, 50-50s, big throws etc.) or for competitve freestyle when your motor shutting down can be a disaster at the wrong moment.

My $0.02 (or was that $0.04...?)

 

[DR3]

In my opinion the only legitimate reason not to wear a lanyard is for tricks which would otherwise be impossible (hood tricks, 50-50s, big throws etc.) or for competitve freestyle when your motor shutting down can be a disaster at the wrong moment.

My $0.02 (or was that $0.04...?)

ill give ya a full nickle:cool2:

 

[butti]

we use the buddy system for lost skis here.if i see someone lose their ski i first go shut it off then tow that person back to the ski.

 

[dieseltwitch]

(If those start-stop switches are as unreliable as the bilge pump switches, then I wouldn't touch them with somebody else's 10 foot pole!!)

On the subject of circling SJs, don't forget that the water is rarely flat calm - surf, boat wakes etc. It doesn't take much to knock a ski to one side or the other and make it circle differently. I once watched my ski trace long lazy S turns heading away from me (and towards a rocky shore) as boat wake after boat wake knocked it from one side to another.

The moral is: if you're riding flat water in a confined area doing the kind of tricks that you can't do with a lanyard, then wrap it around the bars. If you're catching some air off boat wakes or out in the surf and you know you're not about to pull a 50-50, then wear the damn lanyard!! I hate this macho BS the seems to suggest that wearing a lanyard is for beginners. Consider this: if your motor stops as soon as you fall then:

1) It doesn't matter if your ski ends up upside down - it's not going to suck water into the cylinders if it's not running.

2) The ski doesn't drive off without you for ages. Think about it: apart from WOT runs (buy a couch....), how often do you fall far from your ski? If the motor stops right there and then you can get back on instantly. Would you rather wait for it to start circling, and then go round and round while you swim to intercept it? (They don't start to circle right away).

In my opinion the only legitimate reason not to wear a lanyard is for tricks which would otherwise be impossible (hood tricks, 50-50s, big throws etc.) or for competitve freestyle when your motor shutting down can be a disaster at the wrong moment.

My $0.02 (or was that $0.04...?)

You make some very good points. Im not saying im to good to ride with out a lanyard but 3 out of every 4 subs my lanyard pulls off! very annoying! all i like to do is freestyle. i ride flat water mountain lakes. I also ride my ski like i ride my Qauds elbows out! this seams to make it that much worse. unfort i dont really have many buddies that i ride with so im almost always out on my own. i am very worried about the ski running a much and driving a way driverless! half the time when i fall i have such a death hold on the bars i just get drug along. but when i fall off my ski it always ends up a good distance from me. this is what i was thinking and i might just try it! a small switch mounted either on the hood or down by the handle pool mount. when the pole is down a small 12V electric servo will active and pull the pump full to one side. but when the pole is up it will deacivate and have no influence on the steering system. wouldn't take much to build and wouldn't cost me much at all.

 

[demolition_x]

just zip tie the switch and adjust the idle so it dies with no throttle.

no reason to make this more complicated than it has to be.

 

[SJBrit]

3 out of every 4 subs my lanyard pulls off!

I'd say you have a problem either with your lanyard or your kill switch - I never heard of a sub pulling off a lanyard. I suicide-subbed so hard and fast yesterday that I peeled paint off my hood, but the lanyard was fine.... I use the kind that clips low down on my life vest - maybe that's the difference. I find the kind that goes on your arm incredibly annoying and restrictive.

 

[Superjetjim]

Good post - I was thinking about this freestyle lanyard situation a while back - how hard would it be for someone to make a 'proximity lanyard'? - you could use the same technology as modern cars - i.e. with the card key in your pocket its live - move 8ft away from the boat and it cuts the ignition.. the tecnology to do this is in the automotive industry now (Renault cars use IIRC) - someone (good with electronics) just needs to apply it..

This would allow all the hood tricks/monket jumps etc with no restriction but offer all the safety of a lanyard system when the ski is 8ft away or further... I'd buy one for sure.. the peice of mind of not chewing up rocks on the bank or worse would be great.. Also imagine a situation of a jammed on throttle/ghost ride situation with a free style cable tie lanyard.. just imagine the insurance situation of bypassing a lanyard (which we all do..)

Thoughts?