ADA Head Cooling
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michael950
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Kind of discussed yesterday, and definitely hammered in the past.
Check the FAQ and Best dual cooling routing for B-pipe from firewall
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Check the FAQ and Best dual cooling routing for B-pipe from firewall
Search is your friend.
The Penguin
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drill and tap it
Why? It's not needed in many cases.
Simply run your cooling line from the firewall to the bottom of the exhaust manifold. Then connect a hose from the head outlet to the inlet on the bottom of the header pipe. Run the outlet at the top of the header pipe to a T which goes to pisser and stinger inlet on the chamber.
Simply run your cooling line from the firewall to the bottom of the exhaust manifold. Then connect a hose from the head outlet to the inlet on the bottom of the header pipe. Run the outlet at the top of the header pipe to a T which goes to pisser and stinger inlet on the chamber.
The Penguin
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like some of the others said - I like having redundancy where possible. When I finally (if ever :biggrin: ) get my 701 built - i'll tap the manifold for dual intakes.
I can't for sure attribute it to clogged cooling lines - but I blew a ZXi motor a couple years ago and all the cooling passages in the cylinder were full of sand and shell.
I can't for sure attribute it to clogged cooling lines - but I blew a ZXi motor a couple years ago and all the cooling passages in the cylinder were full of sand and shell.
I blew a topend because I used a zip tie for a hose clamp. 
Anyways....I agree with the jist of it.
I am going to set up my pump for dual cooling this winter. I have done it before, but have since switched pumps and have been too lazy.
However, I will not be running dual cooling through the motor. One line for the motor, and one line for the head pipe.
I guess that still doesn't leave redundancy for clogged cooling lines. Eh, when it happens, ya'll feel free to tell me "Toldcha so!"
Anyways....I agree with the jist of it.
I am going to set up my pump for dual cooling this winter. I have done it before, but have since switched pumps and have been too lazy.
However, I will not be running dual cooling through the motor. One line for the motor, and one line for the head pipe.
I guess that still doesn't leave redundancy for clogged cooling lines. Eh, when it happens, ya'll feel free to tell me "Toldcha so!"
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- Clearwater, FL
Technically you dont need it so if you decide to stick with single cooling just use the same diagram thats in that thread and just plug off the line going directly from the head to the pisser. I'm not sure you even need to do that though.
#0 actually has one line that runs to his headpipe and exhaust manifold and he's running 3 pissers. Two off the head and one off the pipe.
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michael950
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What goes in, must come out.
With dual cooling, you need 2 pissers.
You can Tee the cooling line for dual fittings on the manifold (even distribution of water) and tee the head to a single line, so three is not required.
Aside from that, you can run one line to the manifold and one line to the pipe, or run dual lines to the manifold. Those are the options. Throw in restricters and flow control valves and you have a new can of worms. Contact your builder for how they recommend your cooling setup or read the very long discussion and reasoning in the FAQ thread to decide for yourself.
With dual cooling, you need 2 pissers.
You can Tee the cooling line for dual fittings on the manifold (even distribution of water) and tee the head to a single line, so three is not required.
Aside from that, you can run one line to the manifold and one line to the pipe, or run dual lines to the manifold. Those are the options. Throw in restricters and flow control valves and you have a new can of worms. Contact your builder for how they recommend your cooling setup or read the very long discussion and reasoning in the FAQ thread to decide for yourself.
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- Clearwater, FL
Have you seen #0's setup? 1 Line in with 3 lines out. :bigeyes: This is by far the craziest setup I've seen, but it keeps his engine cool and he only rides in hot Florida Water.
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michael950
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- Houston, TX
Yes I have seen the setup, he could just as easily tee the manifold into one however that is more difficult with the Riva head.
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- Clearwater, FL
That will work and thats exactly what Factory Pipe recommends, but most people run the line from the head to the bottom of the headpipe instead of running it to the top of the headpipe and then they run the line from the top of the headpipe to the ""y" fiiting one to stinger, other to pisser".
They say this prevents air from getting trapped in the headpipe and keeping the coupler cooler or something like that. I tryed it both ways and didn't notice any difference. Personally I think it doesn't matter, but I have mine running from the head to the bottom of the headpipe.
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I run 3 pissers also but I have dual cooling .
2 lines in to both fittings on exhaust manifold
1 line out head to bottom of headpipe
1 teed out of head to handlebars for hand warmers and other line teed to 2 pissers
1 teed out of top of head pipe to flow control to stinger and other to pisser .
I really only run 3 pissers to use the triple backflush kit from Blowsion for super easy backflushes and I can turn valves open and closed in the pisser lines for more or less hand warmer .
there is probably a dozen or more different ways to do it .
2 lines in to both fittings on exhaust manifold
1 line out head to bottom of headpipe
1 teed out of head to handlebars for hand warmers and other line teed to 2 pissers
1 teed out of top of head pipe to flow control to stinger and other to pisser .
I really only run 3 pissers to use the triple backflush kit from Blowsion for super easy backflushes and I can turn valves open and closed in the pisser lines for more or less hand warmer .
there is probably a dozen or more different ways to do it .
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- Clearwater Fl.
Word of advice...always keep in mind what you are doing to the water pressure in the headpipe! If you run all these crazy line configurations... now tell me what your going to set your water adjusters to? With pressure changes, water settings will be very different! Now where's that bottom end you should have?
I have used water pressure gauges on my race ski set-ups to get all of my motors to all be the same and when I changed props (changed the pressure/needed to re-adjust the screws)
I have used water pressure gauges on my race ski set-ups to get all of my motors to all be the same and when I changed props (changed the pressure/needed to re-adjust the screws)