Superchicken wont hit max RPM

I did some more prop swapping in superchickens and added another superchicken to the mix. unfortuantly I didnt have my tiny tach with me so this was all seat of pants feel compared to the mako 60 prop that was in the 750bp chicken and a kawasaki STS 750 that i have a small pin swapped in using them as a kind of baseline.

New superchicken had a 750 sp stock CDK dual carbs stock SC650 pipe and a 13-18 solas impeller, didnt cavitate, accelerated pretty good but didnt reach max rpm imo (did not verify with tach but it you could tell) at one time i had this prop on a stock chicken with a pump stuffer and it did 39, i wanna say the 750sp did 36 or 37 with the 13-18. also not sure how much the 650 pipe was choking out the 750 with this set up.

ended up throwing a STS pipe on this 750 small pin with an XP waterbox and the rad dudes 2" exit and swapped a single mikuni SBN 44 (150 main 120pilot 80g spring, may be too rich) and swapped the 9/15 hooker on it with a stubby pump cone. i will say it is pretty close and the accleration is pretty good, it did slightly better than the big pin motor though im also questioning my jetting. i plan on putting the skat trak 16 i have laying around on this to cofirm if i am overpropped or its a carb tuning issue.

lastly i threw the 13-18 onto the 750bp chicken with a pump cone, so damn close but the mako 60 is still more fun. wouldnt hit max rpm and didnt rip like the mako 60 did. trying the mako 60 with the stock pump cone to see what that does vs the stubby. i wonder if 12-17 would be the ticket or if that pitch exists. The mako 60 will cavitate if you give her the beans at a low enough rpm though so shes not "perfect" but its the closest i got so far and rips the mid range real good.

will probably be selling a very lighly used 9/15 hooker and 13-18 solas in the near future stay tuned.

lakes are starting to get cold, trying the skat 16 with the 750sp this weekend but it will probably be the last swap of the year as i am out of props to try at that point.
Get a impeller gauge and learn to tweak the blades so you can fine tune your pump. The different brand impellers pitch is almost redundant because of how they are designed weight, root pitch, hub size etc. A solas 13/18 is gonna be much different than a skat 13/18. It's how the different impellers load the pump. With the gauge you can get the one that feels best then tweak it a degree or 2 to fine tune it.
 
Get a impeller gauge and learn to tweak the blades so you can fine tune your pump. The different brand impellers pitch is almost redundant because of how they are designed weight, root pitch, hub size etc. A solas 13/18 is gonna be much different than a skat 13/18. It's how the different impellers load the pump. With the gauge you can get the one that feels best then tweak it a degree or 2 to fine tune it.

Also...Pretty much every impeller that I've actually measured has not measured what it is marked, particularly the leading edge seems to always be steeper than marked.
 

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Also...Pretty much every impeller that I've actually measured has not measured what it is marked, particularly the leading edge seems to always be steeper than marked.
Very true but at that point youre just taking a degree or two out of what you measured and thats why the pitch gauge is a good tool to have. You'll also know if the blades are all thr same angle as well
 
Am I understanding correctly that you're saying the stock 650 pulled the 13-18 solas to a higher rpm than the 750 small pin (39mph vs 36 or 37mph). That seems odd.
yes i am also very confused by this and sick of swapping props in these. trying the sp with the skat "6" tomorrow and this will be the last of my pump fun for the foreseeable future as i am planning to move to corpus cristi tx in the spring and will no longer have a cabin to test and tune skis and will be selling the BP750 chicken to a buddy.
 
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Am I understanding correctly that you're saying the stock 650 pulled the 13-18 solas to a higher rpm than the 750 small pin (39mph vs 36 or 37mph). That seems odd.
It has nothing to do with the crankshaft, just the exhaust port height. All small pin cylinders have lower ports and will handle more load than big pin cylinders. When bending impellers, I measure the distance between blades. I get more consistent results that way. Sometimes, out of curiosity, I will set the impeller on a table and measure the rise of the last two inches and calculate the pitch. But much like carb jetting, the number doesn't mean very much.
 
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I have a Small pin and a big pin engine I can put ion mine , which is why I am watching this with great interest , I also have an SXR cylinder that needs a new sleeve and I am thinking this may be my best option on my particular ski but I will have to port the cases to run the SXR cylinder and get the maximum benefit from it.
 

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My preferred setup for a chicken is BP bottom SXR cylinder with .062" base gasket and drop domes. Kawasaki sleeves are not replaceable but you can have the stock sleeve bored for a sleeve but you end up with a sleeve in a sleeve not ideal.
 

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My preferred setup for a chicken is BP bottom SXR cylinder with .062" base gasket and drop domes. Kawasaki sleeves are not replaceable but you can have the stock sleeve bored for a sleeve but you end up with a sleeve in a sleeve not ideal.
I know about Kawasaki sleeves already , someone removed a sleeve on this one, I am assuming they busted it out because it wasn't bored out , at any rate it has to be bored to accept the heavy duty sleeve now to make it work , which is the preferred way to fix an SXR cylinder .
 
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