Squarenose ???

[Blaster94]

Okay, this may not be in the right section, please move if not.

I am back to working on a 94 SN SJ I got last year. I had started reinforcing the sides but did so improperly. I used the wrong materials and had to start over. It was barrells of fun. Now for my question. WHat do I do with the piece that is in front of the hood? DO i epoxy it in place or epoxy and fiberglass cloth it in? The gas filler is being located inside the engine compartment BTW. Also are hand hols in the hood necesary? I don't do much lake riding. Just surf.

Thanks,
JD

 

[Matt_E]

Handholds are for hood tricks. :woot:

 

[ketsair]

on that nose piece your best bet is going to be to make a mold of it, and clean up the mold a little bit, mainly so the fuel door imprint isn't in it, but you can take out some of the sharp edges too, what ever you like, and put a release agent in the mold and lay glass in that to make a completely new nose piece

 

[daylite67]

Or you can save the time and spend the cash and just buy one.

http://www.247innovations.com/pwc/products/95nosepiece.htm

http://www.blowsion.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=YA95CO113C

Either way, you don't want anything to do with the original plastic piece.
My square had the 247 nose piece and it looked and worked great.

Daylite

 

[SFL]

i know rickster just made a mold. im not sure how the finished product came out as he turfed over it. looks really nice though w/ the turf. PM him. maybe he can make ya one.

 

[IceRocket1286]

Or you can save the time and spend the cash and just buy one.

http://www.247innovations.com/pwc/products/95nosepiece.htm

http://www.blowsion.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=YA95CO113C

Either way, you don't want anything to do with the original plastic piece.
My square had the 247 nose piece and it looked and worked great.

Daylite

dont waste money on that, their way to expensive for what they are, I think.


do it yourself. epoxy the door right to the nosepiece, sand it smooth, paint it. Thats what I did. cost=free You could reinforce it from the back if you feel like it. I didnt. If mine breaks, at least I tried! But I dont think it will.

 

[sflsurfrider]

ive had a few modified stockers. they suck just a little more than a non-modified stocker. im now using a fiberglass one thats turfed (finished product looked like ass so i turfed over it)

it is strong enough to stand and lightly jump up and down on and you can pull the ski by it by hand. cant do that w/ a modified stocker no matter how much you glass it.

i have one thats black diamond turfed if anyone is interested.

 

[Rickster]

i know rickster just made a mold. im not sure how the finished product came out as he turfed over it. looks really nice though w/ the turf. PM him. maybe he can make ya one.

:no1: :no1: :no1:

I did make a mold, and have produced some nose pieces for myself and my neighbor, but they are not for sell. I could not deal with all the B*tching that the manufacturers deal with on their product.

The piece on my ski is the plug and much more beefy than the actual nose piece which is why I turfed it.

 

[sflsurfrider]

oh well.

i still have one for sale. i aint skeered of no steenkin' manufacturers woes:moon:

 

[Blaster94]

The hand holds will be a no go. For the nose I am kinda leaning to what icerocket did plus pouring some foam behind it for reinforcment after the epoxy cures. SFL can I get a pic of your turfed nose?

 

[IceRocket1286]

i wouldnt pour foam behind it. just try reinforcing it with glass. it it ever comes off or you dont like it, youll have a huge blob of foam left. ewww

 

[sflsurfrider]

The hand holds will be a no go. For the nose I am kinda leaning to what icerocket did plus pouring some foam behind it for reinforcment after the epoxy cures. SFL can I get a pic of your turfed nose?

i had a pic of it on my square before i had to change my harddrive. its now lost. i sent a pic to rickster a while back. hopefully he still has it and can post it. otherwise, i can take a pic of it off of my ski.

 

[Rickster]

here it is...

 

[Matt_E]

Nice...I like that.

 

[Blaster94]

I'm not worried about having to remove the foam. Thats what they make sanders and grinders and sand blasters for. I will be turfing the rails and the nose as the rubber pieces were crap already. SFL, Was the turf screwed down due to it peeling back or what?

 

[ketsair]

probly screwed the nose piece to the top deck to keep the nose piece from blowing off

 

[Rickster]

probly screwed the nose piece to the top deck to keep the nose piece from blowing off

Exactly! T he nose on the front of the squarenose comes off easier than a ladies undergarments :bigeyes: that is at the bar at last call.

I used 9 screws in total on my front nose peice that I turfed, and that thing is never going to come off.

Incidently, I had a modified stock nose peice on my square in the beginning that had 6 screws holding it on, and that lasted about 3 sub attempts. The plastic just does not hold up well enough to the pounding that the front of the ski takes.

 

[Blaster94]

Okay, If I fill the hole where the gas cap was and then epoxy+ screw and glass the plastic cover on and then foam between the hull and cover I should be okay right? Maybe a couple layers of cloth on top for good measure? I gotta go now, I'll have more questions later I'm sure. Maybe waxhead could make a billet squarenose replacement cover.

 

[Rickster]

I would not go to that extreme, but I would put a layer or two of glass underneath the nose cover to strengthen it. Also when you screw it on, use washers to give the screw heads a larger area to grab on.

Just be careful putting glass underneath, as the tolerances are pretty tight and it would be easy to make it too small to fit on the nose.

 

[IceRocket1286]

yup, mess with the stocker before you spend big bucks. If mineseems flimsy, ill pop it off and glass the backside better, or screw it down. we'll see.