PHP, behind the ski. The untold story

chadman154

#Itsonlymoney !!!!!
Location
Dirty south
“Performance isn't a gamble when you bet on the house “ unless we are talking about the PHP customer service. www.phpski.com

As many of your know I have hired Zack Genrich Powerhouse Performance skis to built a lot of motors/ complete skis and a few builds for many years. This era has sadly come to an end. I have spent more than 30k (prolly almost 40k) at Zacks shop over the years, he used to ride at my lake house as well.

Here is my honest review of the service I received from Zack ( Keep in mind, I have text messages to back a lot of this up, 14 pages )

Many hours were spent in the tiny 15x25 shop where Zack runs PHP at his personal home, listening to his reviews and bashing of other motor/ hull builders. This is where my loss for the PHP brand started. I was told this motor was junk, this hull was junk, only for Zack to purchase these same items in the near future.

This is where the working relationship went south.....

I had a KDX build that nothing was not completed on for over 6 months by Zack. I called to pull the pin on the build because it was riding season. I was told, “ It is, what it is, bro.” I was promised by Zack, in front of 3 fellow riders ( Tommy, Trevor, Randy), that in less than a month he would have it completed. Don't worry it will be done, Zack proudly said. 1 month passed...... My TL was installed in my hull, that was it. Nothing else but a pile of parts and a unfinished ski. I pulled the pin on the build, bought my DVX. Had Zack swap the Dasa for my PHP. Zack then tuned my DVX, told I could go a touch lower (like a half degree on my 7/18 prop). Keep in mind this a prop that Zack ordered for my ski. Turns out a year later I need a 7/15. Thanks Zack for the heads up. This is when I started messing with the prop. I think Zack may enjoy people relying on him for tuning, compared to teaching them. This is when the nasty texts from Zack started in summer of 2015. ( dont worry Zack, I saved them ) @powerhouseperformance

All of us local riders have struggled with tuned skis for years. The sad part is, I followed all Zack's recommendations to a T. That is the biggest downfall with the PHP motor unless you follow everything perfect to Zack's specs on his personal ski, you will usually chase your tail. Every time Trevor rode at my house, he was tuning on his motor, If the the ski was even running. Keep in mind trevor works in the shop, hand in hand with Zack. This is the last person that should have tuning issues on a ski. Maybe Zack can work on a few other set of specs for people that don't have super deep pockets. Someone may want a PHP on enhancer on 44s or 46s, not a full jones build.

Here is what I have noticed over the years dealing with “Zack show”. Your phone will ring off the hook, when you are spending money and buying parts. Stop spending money, phone stops ringing. This is not how this sport should be with your riding buddies. Many other local riders have experienced this same sour deal, but are afraid to speak up. When it comes to hanging with Zack, he is the last rider to show up and the first to leave. Everyone should stop riding to help him load /unload. This is why I don't invite him out to my house any more. ( even tho he texts friends to invite himself out to my house) (or attempts to borrow my shop for a bachelor party for Trevor that I wasn't even invited to, lol) Just a lil back story on how he operates on a personal level....

I was a fan boy along with a few other local riders for many years. As you noticed the posts supporting PHP by me and other locals have stopped. I do expect many fan boys of PHP to chime in ( just as I would have in the past). This is not a complete bash thread on PHP, Zack builds a great motor, has tons of knowledge/ creativity in the sport, but his business model really lacks in the customer service portion. I do hope he is able to correct these issues and continue to run a successful business that helps the customers and sport. I hope Zack uses this thread as a constructive thread to help correct the issues at hand, I'm sure there are more people with similar stories.

#Phpwho
 

powerhouseperformance

www.PHPSKI.com
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Location
wisconsin
Haa! This is truly funny. I didn't even spend the time to read all that BS but here's the short story on chad. He's made that money can't buy talent...and that second he's very short on lol. He expected that because he lives in close proximity to me and bought one of our engines it comes with unlimited free tuning services...which anyone with common sense knows doesn't happen that way. I wonder why he didn't open a bash thread on Dasa when he bought a $27k dvx with a full comp 10mm 900 and it was less than impressive.
The old adage that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink is so true for chad. You can give him all the right parts but that does not mean the ski will ride itself.

That's OK Chad, I understand how frustrating it must be that literally everyone you've ever let ride your ski can flip it but you lol...and a 180 to a half ass falling flip does not count as being able to flip
 

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chadman154

#Itsonlymoney !!!!!
Location
Dirty south
Haa! This is truly funny. I didn't even spend the time to read all that BS but here's the short story on chad. He's made that money can't buy talent...and that second he's very short on lol. He expected that because he lives in close proximity to me and bought one of our engines it comes with unlimited free tuning services...which anyone with common sense knows doesn't happen that way. I wonder why he didn't open a bash thread on Dasa when he bought a $27k dvx with a full comp 10mm 900 and it was less than impressive.
The old adage that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink is so true for chad. You can give him all the right parts but that does not mean the ski will ride itself.

That's OK Chad, I understand how frustrating it must be that literally everyone you've ever let ride your ski can flip it but you lol...and a 180 to a half ass falling flip does not count as being able to flip


Thanks Zack. Truly proves my point on the above thread on your character.
If you would enlighten us all, what stated above by me is not correct?
 

powerhouseperformance

www.PHPSKI.com
Site Supporter
Location
wisconsin
Haa! This is truly funny. I didn't even spend the time to read all that BS but here's the short story on chad. He's made that money can't buy talent...and that second he's very short on lol. He expected that because he lives in close proximity to me and bought one of our engines it comes with unlimited free tuning services...which anyone with common sense knows doesn't happen that way. I wonder why he didn't open a bash thread on Dasa when he bought a $27k dvx with a full comp 10mm 900 and it was less than impressive.
The old adage that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink is so true for chad. You can give him all the right parts but that does not mean the ski will ride itself.

That's OK Chad, I understand how frustrating it must be that literally everyone you've ever let ride your ski can flip it but you lol...and a 180 to a half ass falling flip does not count as being able to flip

I really apologize because I know this is a pretty unprofessional post but this guy really gets under my skin. There's plenty of choices out there for builders guys...a lot of good ones. Different strokes for different folks.

I'm done with this and on a positive note the kid that bought Chad's boat is a very solid guy with a great future ahead of him. I really hope you enjoy the ski Nick! Move on chad, and I hope it's all sprinkles and rainbows for you with another builder.
 

chadman154

#Itsonlymoney !!!!!
Location
Dirty south
I really apologize because I know this is a pretty unprofessional post but this guy really gets under my skin. There's plenty of choices out there for builders guys...a lot of good ones. Different strokes for different folks.

I'm done with this and on a positive note the kid that bought Chad's boat is a very solid guy with a great future ahead of him. I really hope you enjoy the ski Nick! Move on chad, and I hope it's all sprinkles and rainbows for you with another builder.

apology accepted :)
Zack this was never meant to bash you or your company, just state the issues i had. Hopefully you correct them and continue to support this sport. The greatest thing about life is the free choice to make your own decisions on where to spend your money.
 

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