2121 SJ is here! Orig: Is 2020 Really the Last Year of the Superjet? A call to Action.

chixwithtrix

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https://ridestandups.com/2019/08/23/2020-the-last-year-of-the-yamaha-superjet/

Want to hear your thoughts on how we can mobilize this community. I always hear people saying they want the ski races and events to be as big as Supercross. But how? This sport has potential, but without supporting the big manufacturers to pump money and advertising, we'll continue to see dwindling attendance. Just look at photos from World Finals in the 90s - packed stands! As a business owner, I'm also all for supporting aftermarket hull manufacturers. This forum is a case-in-point that the freestyle community cares.

Is 2020 the last year of the beloved two-stroke Yamaha SuperJet? Yamaha is offering the 2020 Superjet, same as the 2019, for a small increase in MSRP.
It is no longer available in Australia due to more stringent emissions laws. The USA is probably next. Life without a Superjet is a sad life ya'll! Two-strokes are going away, embrace the future of four-strokes (or other tech?), or there won’t be one.

We all want this sport to grow. None of that is possible without our support. Which hand fills up first? One with hopes and dreams or one with…well, you probably know how that old saying goes.

Join me in sharing your passion for the stand ups, and the continued production of a modern mighty Superjet!
I say – what can it hurt?


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Great write up, chix! All your efforts to boost awareness and excitement for standups are appreciated!

News about the release of the SXR 1500 is what got me in to it. I rode standups briefly as a kid on vacation in Hawaii in the mid 80's, and then basically forgot about them. The news of the 4-stroke standup was interesting to me, and that’s when I also learned that 2-strokes are/were getting banned. I figured now is the time to get one and learn to ride before I get too old. So I bought a 91 SN last year to make sure I enjoyed it, with the intent of upgrading to a new SXR (or other 4-stroke) later. I've been loving it, but just wish there were more places to ride in SoCal. I’ve also been struggling to get buddies to ride with – I haven’t yet converted any of my dirt biking pals.

No doubt Yamaha is watching the sales volume on the SXR 1500, and not thrilled by the numbers. It’s too bad Kawasaki didn't make it just a bit shorter and lighter – I think a little bit would have gone a long way to helping it sell better. As it is, it requires a trailer (vs a hitch carrier or just in the back of a pickup), and that adds to the expense and the footprint in everyone’s garage or yard. I had a chance to ride one, and they are fun. A lot different than my SN, but still a blast – and no comparison to the big sit-downs.
 
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Quinc said:
The Spark has probably done more for the sport then any other ski in the last 20 years.
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For better or for worse...…..I think Sparks attract ass clowns. There are plenty of jet skis on my lake, both skis and couches, and plenty of boats as well and everyone gets along fine and rides respectfully except the d-bags on Sparks that have invaded my lake. They pay zero attention to their surroundings, ride like total a-holes and crank their Spark-O-Matic marine stereos to the max. Plus all they do is ride around doing endless tail stands and try to spray each other. You'd think they were all 12 years old but they are mid 20s early 30s. All they are doing at my lake is making people consider banning personal watercraft.
 
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Pattle said:
Great write up, chix! All your efforts to boost awareness and excitement for standups are appreciated!

News about the release of the SXR 1500 is what got me in to it. I rode standups briefly as a kid on vacation in Hawaii in the mid 80's, and then basically forgot about them. The news of the 4-stroke standup was interesting to me, and that’s when I also learned that 2-strokes are/were getting banned. I figured now is the time to get one and learn to ride before I get too old. So I bought a 91 SN last year to make sure I enjoyed it, with the intent of upgrading to a new SXR (or other 4-stroke) later. I've been loving it, but just wish there were more places to ride in SoCal. I’ve also been struggling to get buddies to ride with – I haven’t yet converted any of my dirt biking pals.

No doubt Yamaha is watching the sales volume on the SXR 1500, and not thrilled by the numbers. It’s too bad Kawasaki didn't make it just a bit shorter and lighter – I think a little bit would have gone a long way to helping it sell better. As it is, it requires a trailer (vs a hitch carrier or just in the back of a pickup), and that adds to the expense and the footprint in everyone’s garage or yard. I had a chance to ride one, and they are fun. A lot different than my SN, but still a blast – and no comparison to the big sit-downs.
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They couldn't, due to USCG bouyancy testing, this was the size hull that they had to end up with to support that 1500cc motor. I have heard Yamaha has ran into the same issue. But no idea the validity to that............
 
chixwithtrix

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Pattle said:
Great write up, chix! All your efforts to boost awareness and excitement for standups are appreciated!

News about the release of the SXR 1500 is what got me in to it. I rode standups briefly as a kid on vacation in Hawaii in the mid 80's, and then basically forgot about them. The news of the 4-stroke standup was interesting to me, and that’s when I also learned that 2-strokes are/were getting banned. I figured now is the time to get one and learn to ride before I get too old. So I bought a 91 SN last year to make sure I enjoyed it, with the intent of upgrading to a new SXR (or other 4-stroke) later. I've been loving it, but just wish there were more places to ride in SoCal. I’ve also been struggling to get buddies to ride with – I haven’t yet converted any of my dirt biking pals.

No doubt Yamaha is watching the sales volume on the SXR 1500, and not thrilled by the numbers. It’s too bad Kawasaki didn't make it just a bit shorter and lighter – I think a little bit would have gone a long way to helping it sell better. As it is, it requires a trailer (vs a hitch carrier or just in the back of a pickup), and that adds to the expense and the footprint in everyone’s garage or yard. I had a chance to ride one, and they are fun. A lot different than my SN, but still a blast – and no comparison to the big sit-downs.
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Appreciate it, keep spreading the love! It is better with a group of friends for sure.

The SXR is an odd beast. I have always welcomed it because it stirred renewed interest. My local ride spot went from 3-5 people to 5-8 people with its introduction. I tried to like it, it was fun and butt-pucker fast, but like I wrote in my review of it vs the Superjet...I just don't like how it tends to tip over. Just killed it for me.

It did create a heftier Stock class at the local races as well as Finals, a step in the right direction. Look at the European races - all SXRs.
 
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I don't have much faith in Yamaha. We are huge mountain snowmobilers in Montana and have watched Yamaha go down the tubes in the mountain segment. I have tried a boosted Yamaha and the power is awesome but you can't get rid of the front end weight. All ski doo, cat and polaris have killed them and shown them 2 strokes are alive and well and way cleaner than they used to be. They have shown they don't care. Because of this, a buddy of mine who is a Yamaha dealer, can't sell one snowmobile. A buddy, who is a ski doo dealer 25 miles from him sells about 100 sleds. Good luck with Yamaha.
 
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turboless terry said:
I don't have much faith in Yamaha. We are huge mountain snowmobilers in Montana and have watched Yamaha go down the tubes in the mountain segment. I have tried a boosted Yamaha and the power is awesome but you can't get rid of the front end weight. All ski doo, cat and polaris have killed them and shown them 2 strokes are alive and well and way cleaner than they used to be. They have shown they don't care. Because of this, a buddy of mine who is a Yamaha dealer, can't sell one snowmobile. A buddy, who is a ski doo dealer 25 miles from him sells about 100 sleds. Good luck with Yamaha.
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Not sure snowmobile sales translate into ski sales. I think with both of these hobbies it's all about brand recognition. You hear 'sled' and you think Polaris, Arctic Cat and Ski Doo. You hear jet ski and you think Kawi or Yamaha. And I've owned a couple Yami sleds 'back in the day' and loved them. (SRV and a VMAX...yes, I am old).
 
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SXIPro said:
Not sure snowmobile sales translate into ski sales. I think with both of these hobbies it's all about brand recognition. You hear 'sled' and you think Polaris, Arctic Cat and Ski Doo. You hear jet ski and you think Kawi or Yamaha. And I've owned a couple Yami sleds 'back in the day' and loved them. (SRV and a VMAX...yes, I am old).
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Didn't say sled sales translate into ski sales. I was saying not to hold your breathe waiting for Yamaha to do what everyone thinks or wants them to do. I would bet mountain sled sales are waaay above standup jet skis and they refuse to build something that works. That is why I was really glad to see krash jump into the equation.
 
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I would think we all need to email Yamaha asking where the new superjet is. Let them know its going to turn into sales. The ski is ready to go as far as I heard but they are looking at dwindling sales for the sxr. MY thoughts are the sxr has small sales because we are all waiting for the new superjet. I think the new superjet has killed the sales for Kawasaki before it has even hit the market.
 
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waxhead said:
I would think we all need to email Yamaha asking where the new superjet is. Let them know its going to turn into sales. The ski is ready to go as far as I heard but they are looking at dwindling sales for the sxr. MY thoughts are the sxr has small sales because we are all waiting for the new superjet. I think the new superjet has killed the sales for Kawasaki before it has even hit the market.
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Do you know whatever happened to Butch going to Yamaha and discussing a Freeride SJ?
 
chixwithtrix

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I personally love Yamaha products. They generally have the balls to produce interesting, innovative products. The YXZ is the only side by side with a clutch and a dogbox, friken sweet man! Plus the crossplane R1 rides and sounds amazing. Had one with a straightpipe, pure sex. Our old VX Cruiser sit down we picked up used keeps on ticking too, with no maintenance and 200hrs.

I used to ride a SXR, but once I switched to the Superjet I never looked back. The engine and hull platform are excellent, and parts are readily available. After owning one, that is my main worry with the Krash.
 
Desk_jockey

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Yamaha made the gamble on going all 4-stroke in their sleds in the early 00's and it didn't pay off. They put high tech motors in low tech chassis. They make high quality products for sure but in my eyes, and sales-wise, 2 strokes still rule in sleds. Yamaha didn't adapt and bring back 2 strokes in their sleds and they are 4th in sales by a good margin.

Its sort of a theme for Yamaha, at least for sleds and standups. They innovate (superjet, 4 stroke sled motors) then let the competition catch and pass them or they just settle with what they have. I highly doubt we will see a 4 stroke SJ. I hope they just keep selling the current SJ forever!
 
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What we're all really waiting for is the electric standup.

Nikola bought the Freeform EV. They are said to be showing off the sitdown soon.

Until then, keep the SJ the same. Sparks are lameo
 
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