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D Slicker
11-04-2006, 03:24 PM
Ok so I have not one but 2 builds going this year. Here is my 2nd. I am taking the motor out of my SX-R and putting it into my X-2. Here is a list of things to come.

Motor 800cc SX-R
Rad Flywheel
Milled head
Advance kit
MSD Coil
SX-R electronics
Impros Impeller (not sure what pitch yet 12/17 I think)
Ported pump
Coffman Exhaust (my wet pipe won’t fit)
Wet Wolf cone
Rebuild UMI
Relocate Exhaust Outlet
Tubbie 2’s
Re-enforce transom(cracking) and nose
Paint?????

I’m hoping to get both the SN and this done by Daytona. Here are some picks as I get started. I am sanding now and should be ready to start glassing this week.

I have a 15.5 with a kick done by impros used one season for sale. Great shape.

D Slicker
11-04-2006, 03:28 PM
Here is a pick of the begining of the sanding process. Yes the boxes in the back are full of parts.:woot:

crab
11-04-2006, 04:47 PM
Bite the bullit and get a swirl made, or you will just be spinning your wheels.

D Slicker
11-04-2006, 04:58 PM
I have to call impros on monday to finalize what way I am going.

the only couch rider
11-04-2006, 05:14 PM
what are your plans for the sxr?

D Slicker
11-04-2006, 05:47 PM
Hull will be for sale.

sxrcohen5
11-04-2006, 06:41 PM
What u doing with that x-metal pole that was on the sxr?

D Slicker
11-04-2006, 06:56 PM
What u doing with that x-metal pole that was on the sxr? Its going on the square :biggrin:

sxrcohen5
11-05-2006, 12:18 AM
Its going on the square :biggrin:

Damn :banghead: ......Let me know how it turns out
:biggthumpup:

crab
11-05-2006, 11:08 AM
I saw the 15.5 you have for sale on the other site, if you look at how big the center section is compared to the swirl you will know why the swirl works so much better. The old 650 design was made to limit the amount of water entering the pump area. It almost makes me think Kaw had future plans for the 140mm pumps way before the 750 or the 800 came out, knowing they could process much more water than a 650 could handle.

D Slicker
11-07-2006, 08:11 PM
So I sized up the tubbies tonight and got everyting ready for glass. Can someone tell me how far from the back they are. I measured 40 1/2 inchs seens right but blowsion told me to used the 750 measurements at 35 3/4 and they are way to far back.

CG Racing
11-07-2006, 11:25 PM
dude, try to fit a superjet b-pipe on there, i know it can be done

crammit442
11-08-2006, 12:02 AM
So I sized up the tubbies tonight and got everyting ready for glass. Can someone tell me how far from the back they are. I measured 40 1/2 inchs seens right but blowsion told me to used the 750 measurements at 35 3/4 and they are way to far back.

Look closely at how they lay against the side of the hull. When I did mine, it was fairly obvious where they would need to go. After I got one where I wanted it, I measured and matched the other side. I don't have the boat anymore or I'd measure it for you. Here are a couple of pics of how I did mine.

Charles

crammit442
11-08-2006, 12:04 AM
dude, try to fit a superjet b-pipe on there, i know it can be done

He's correct!:biggthumpup:

Charles

D Slicker
11-08-2006, 07:06 AM
Crammit, Thanks for the picks that is about where mine line up. As far as the b-pipe goes I know it will fit the problem that I had was the Kawi headpipe for the wet pipe on my SXR is differant than the ones for 750 and superjet. I have a mod pipe but that is going on my square.

crab
11-08-2006, 10:19 AM
He's correct!:biggthumpup:

Charles

Is that picture with a 650 kaw. headpipe?

D Slicker
11-08-2006, 05:16 PM
So I laid some glass today to seal some holes and mocked up the Tubbies. I will be mounting them this weekend.

djkorn1
11-08-2006, 05:35 PM
SXR Wetpipe has the same head pipe as a Yamaha B-pipe.

Scorn800
11-08-2006, 05:52 PM
SXR Wetpipe has the same head pipe as a Yamaha B-pipe.
No they look the the same but are slightly different.

D Slicker
11-08-2006, 07:15 PM
SXR Wetpipe has the same head pipe as a Yamaha B-pipe.

Scorn is right. There is acouple of millimeters differance in the mounting. the 750 limited headpipe is the one i need to find in order to get the b-pipe to work.

crab
11-08-2006, 08:28 PM
So the 750 limited headpipe will fit the X2, not the 650sx headpipe? I was going to order a new one, but want to get the right one to work with a B limited chamber.

D Slicker
11-08-2006, 09:09 PM
From what the pros have told me since my SXR one didn't fit.

Island750
11-08-2006, 10:43 PM
That makes sense, the Limited pipe has the 650 pattern just rotated you need the 750 headpipe and exhaust manifold so the pipe will be straight forward.

Legdragger
11-09-2006, 12:48 AM
I have the 650 headpipe and the superjet headpipe and can't tell them apart. My buddy has a new SJ Mod pipe he got for his 840 X2 we are putting together soon. I will let you know if it works out the same.

crammit442
11-09-2006, 01:07 AM
I have the 650 headpipe and the superjet headpipe and can't tell them apart. My buddy has a new SJ Mod pipe he got for his 840 X2 we are putting together soon. I will let you know if it works out the same.

One or the other has a thicker flange. Can't remember which is which. I believe the Kaw has less material taken off at the gasket surface.(thicker)

Charles

D Slicker
11-11-2006, 03:29 PM
So this week I started my re-enforcement of the side's and my tubbie install. I also glassed in some aluminum plate for the foot straps. Im not happy with the way the Tubbies came out , Unfortunatly my supplier was out of fast cure adhesive so I cant do anything to them for a week.

D Slicker
11-11-2006, 03:30 PM
Some pic's of the Tubbies. I mounted them 43 9/16 from the rear of the ski I think they are two far foward. Blowsion told me to follow the SXI direction but that put them way to far back. I will be blending them into the hull next weekend to try and compensate.

D Slicker
11-11-2006, 08:06 PM
I have decided to move them back more. I just took them off.

kx454
11-12-2006, 07:27 PM
how much you want for that sxr hull?

Legdragger
11-12-2006, 07:37 PM
Those didn't look too bad to me.

D Slicker
11-12-2006, 08:16 PM
The pics can be deceiving. I need to move them back 2 inches

crab
11-12-2006, 08:25 PM
The pics can be deceiving. I need to move them back 2 inches
I was thinking the same, if you look down when riding you will see where the water is breaking out from the side of the hull. I think Pete got it right, and I thought they were too far back the first time I looked at his hull. We are not racing these things, and want the nose up more.

skysurfer2010
11-12-2006, 10:34 PM
sweet dude... can't wait to see it finished!!

D Slicker
11-15-2006, 07:43 PM
So I moved the Tubbies back to 40 1/4 inches from the rear and it looks alot better. I have alot of work ahead of be too remove the adhesive that was left over. Plus one of the screws pulled out of the hull so i have to fill in the edges this week. Next time I will epoxy these in, It would be alot cleaner.

superramjet
11-20-2006, 08:34 PM
someone should cut the bottom off that empty sxr hull and try to mount it to an x-2

D Slicker
11-20-2006, 08:35 PM
Next year maybee.

D Slicker
11-21-2006, 06:25 PM
Got the tubbies cleaned up and they came out great IMO but I still have to paint them. I also got the braces in, engine compartment cleaned up and new center support in. I will be starting to put the motor and UMI in tommorrow. I figure two weeks and I will be ready for daytona.:arms:

D Slicker
12-06-2006, 06:26 PM
Whill waiting for parts for the SJ i started back on the X-2. I mounted the steering, bars and controls. I fount a great place for the bilge switch, it fits right in the bracket for the fuel selector. I also put in the 2nd cooling line and mounted the Kick Ars exhaust outlet I got from legdragger.

Legdragger
12-06-2006, 06:38 PM
This is going to be KILLER! If you run into any snags just call me. I am sure I have the problem solved already. There are little fitment issues with stuff that I might be able to save you some time with.

603 867 4605

crab
12-06-2006, 10:01 PM
Nice, looks just like my dualing braces.

D Slicker
12-08-2006, 05:11 PM
Started putting the motor in today. I cut the hos efor the new exhaust outlet and ran cooling lines. While mounting the motor I figured I would see if my Kenney Keepers would work and sure enough they do :arms: . I am having trouble with the throttle cable mounting. I cant find a bracket that will work and the cable is to short so I ordered one for a 98 sts. I need one that is 40-44 inches.

ANT
12-08-2006, 06:46 PM
Brent I might have a kawi cable that is that length. I will go through my stuff and give you a call if I find it.

Legdragger
12-09-2006, 03:13 PM
You should be able to work with the stock cable if you push it up the tube a little. Shorten the rubber tube so it lets you get the 45 degree angle you need to pull the throttle shaft like the Hot Products brackets have. Unfortunately I don't think they sell a bracket that will work with the I-body square diaphragm. If it was diamond like the regular body carbs you could use part number RY12-TCB Hot Products Carb Bracket,
http://www.hotproductsusa.com/PDFs/Hot_Products_2006_Catalog_Fuel_System.pdf

but it won't work for what you have. I think you could just make a bracket out of .09 aluminum pretty easy to get it working. I did for my SRE carbs.

I also recommend the foam in the nose that the last X2's (95)came with to rest the waterbox on. You can carve it out to get the water box lower and get the exhaust tube to go straight out rather than the awkward bend. Plus it is way lighter than the rubber things and it floats.

D Slicker
12-09-2006, 03:20 PM
Pete, I tried 55-3317 bracket, look at the way my carbs mount (pump out) it wont work. If I was running 44's it wouldnt be a problem. I will try and get the foam, thanks for the idea.

Snackem
12-10-2006, 02:00 AM
That ski looks sweet. How close would the SXR bottom come to fitting with an X2 top deck?

Legdragger
12-10-2006, 09:24 AM
Brent,
Yeah your carbs are kinda reversed but I think you could make your own bracket that would be similar that would mount above the diaphram or use the top two screws that hold the diaphram cover to mount. just a straight piece out that you twist a 45 angle into to get the right pull on the throttle shaft arm. I made one for my SRE 46's I just got and it was a 10 minute job with a band saw and a vice.

D Slicker
12-10-2006, 09:27 AM
I thought about making a bracket off the head. I am going to the shop today to figure something out. If all else fails I have the new throtle cable comming wendsday.

Legdragger
12-10-2006, 03:55 PM
Did you use anything special to paint the inner hull?

D Slicker
12-10-2006, 03:57 PM
I used paint for plastic in a spray can from home depot. Im not sure how it is going to hold up yet.

Legdragger
12-10-2006, 04:00 PM
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Legdragger
12-10-2006, 04:02 PM
Oh and I just got my TBM pump cone yesterday. It is pretty much a fit. The rear of the hub is foreward a quarter inch but with a little longer hardware it could be used as is. I think I am going to look into getting a spacer made just to support it when the fastners are tightened. The o ring for the rear bearing cover just seats enogh to keep water out I think. The rest of it is perfect. The stator section is great and the front of the hub is fine. Just a little space in the back between the hub and housing. I have had to deal with worse.

D Slicker
12-10-2006, 04:02 PM
Thats great. The PJS pump you have is going to be hooked up now.

Project Ski
12-10-2006, 06:45 PM
legdragger,

i think the problem may be that your shaft is hitting the cone. I know wetwolf put s disclaimer that their cones dont fit 91-95 x-2's becuase the pump was set back about a 1/4" and the back of teh shaft hits the cones. Check to make sure because ones that shaft is spinning it will wreck youre $300 hardware.

If it is the shaft just grind it down a 1/4" and you are set.

D Slicker
12-10-2006, 06:58 PM
My wetwolf cone bolted right up?

D Slicker
12-14-2006, 07:10 PM
So as usuall I am waiting for parts so I decided to run my fuel lines and polish my exhaust (it is in ruff shape). All I need is my throtle cable, impeller and coil and I can fire this pig up. I will mount the pissers once I get the exhaust in.

Snackem
12-14-2006, 08:29 PM
So this week I started my re-enforcement of the side's and my tubbie install. I also glassed in some aluminum plate for the foot straps. Im not happy with the way the Tubbies came out , Unfortunatly my supplier was out of fast cure adhesive so I cant do anything to them for a week.

Do you bolt your foot straps to the inside? I thought that they are supposed to be bolted to the bottom? What kind of straps are those?

Legdragger
12-14-2006, 08:39 PM
I ran into that problem with the pump when I first got it. I either swapped pump shafts or gut it off to fit. If the center hub on those pumps are set back a quarter of an inch that is the one to get for the TBM pump cone. I am having a new rear cover for my TBM machined so it seats the o ring. As it turns out the oring doesn't really seat at all. Not a big project but kinda important to make it work good long term. If anyone wants me to run one of the cones I can get more of the rear sections made. I will know the price later this wek I hope.

D Slicker
12-14-2006, 08:56 PM
Do you bolt your foot straps to the inside? I thought that they are supposed to be bolted to the bottom? What kind of straps are those?

I bolted them to the outside rail and screwed the inside in. I mounted the straps in a U shape. I used dakine windsurfing straps.

D Slicker
12-14-2006, 08:58 PM
I ran into that problem with the pump when I first got it. I either swapped pump shafts or gut it off to fit. If the center hub on those pumps are set back a quarter of an inch that is the one to get for the TBM pump cone. I am having a new rear cover for my TBM machined so it seats the o ring. As it turns out the oring doesn't really seat at all. Not a big project but kinda important to make it work good long term. If anyone wants me to run one of the cones I can get more of the rear sections made. I will know the price later this wek I hope.

I had to switch the impeller shaft on mine to one that was smaller on the cone end. Im not sure what one I used I had 2 laying around.

crab
12-17-2006, 08:38 PM
Slicker, is this correct for the fuel lines, or is the pulse and fuel inlet reversed?

D Slicker
12-17-2006, 08:45 PM
Slicker, is this correct for the fuel lines, or is the pulse and fuel inlet reversed?

You have the pulse and fuel inlet switched

crab
12-17-2006, 08:52 PM
Thanks dude.

Legdragger
12-17-2006, 10:33 PM
Brent, That ride plate might not be very easy to freeride with. It is going to make it wicked hard to kick the rear end out on the wave and in stabs or rolls.

crab
12-17-2006, 10:55 PM
Brent, That ride plate might not be very easy to freeride with. It is going to make it wicked hard to kick the rear end out on the wave and in stabs or rolls.
Pete's right as always, get a cheap stocker off ebay and cut the big D in it.

D Slicker
12-18-2006, 08:33 AM
That is an old plate/picture. I ran that plate one time and now I am running a mariner.

D Slicker
12-22-2006, 06:53 PM
I got my impeller today from impros, unfortunatly I have to send it back :banghead: :banghead: . The impeller needs to be cut back about 1/4 of an inch. I cant get the pump to line up with the mounting holes. I put the 15/20 solas back in it and it fit fine. Thats what i get for useing my SXR impeller. On a better note The STS throttle cable I got worked great and I got my coil in from JS solutions. I got all the electronics hooked up and will be starting it this weekend :Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01: .

crab
12-22-2006, 07:14 PM
Where did you get the throttle cable?

D Slicker
12-22-2006, 07:58 PM
Atlantic Jet Sports its for a 98 STS 750

Legdragger
12-23-2006, 12:32 AM
Did they forget to cut it back? Make sure the coupler is meshing between the motor and driveshaft or it might do the same thing to you. I just had an SXR impeller cut back 6mm to use with my TBM that I had modified to work in the X2 pump. Do you know what the pitch is stock on the SXR prop?

D Slicker
12-23-2006, 04:05 PM
Pete, Stock SXR is 13/18. I will be sending it back to Impros monday. I most likely will be ruinning a 15/20 for daytona unless I can get it back in time.

D Slicker
12-23-2006, 04:19 PM
I got it running today and I love how much fogging oil smokes :biggrin: :Banane01:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/u93ystTQLc0"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/u93ystTQLc0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="600" height="350"></embed></object>

D Slicker
12-23-2006, 04:23 PM
Here is one with the idle set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4RaZI1L4yg4"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4RaZI1L4yg4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="600" height="350"></embed></object>

Gainera2582
12-23-2006, 04:59 PM
Sounds mean, I like it!!!!!!!

D Slicker
12-23-2006, 05:02 PM
Thannks, I just picked up a factory/mariner waterbox but I wont get it in till next week.

dbrutherford
12-24-2006, 11:03 AM
Oh hell, it is on now! lol

I wish I was going to Daytona so I could take a ride. Next year....

Let us know how it rides so I won't go out and buy an 800 just for the engine unless I need to. I still think I may go buy a used 750 ZXi though to rape the engine from it...... I know where I can get an 1100 ZXi cheap.....



DBR

Shonuff
12-26-2006, 03:07 PM
Very nice. I can't wait to see it in person.

dbrutherford
12-27-2006, 11:09 AM
Looks great Brent!

I just reread the thread and I like how you did the water box and outlet. My 95 X2 did have foam in the nose for the water box to set on. However, there were not any legs on it like my 93 X2 has. It had more of a flat plate welded to the bottom of it like a Jet Sports box. I had to hog out some of the foam when I did a patch job on the front of my 95 about 4 years ago to make it fit again.

Still though, you look like you got yours all set. I am truely jealous! I won't be building up my X2 for another year. Damn credit card company took me off my repayment program and jacked my montlhy minimum up. So it looks like it will be next winter. Oh well, it will be on then!

DAVE

D Slicker
12-27-2006, 11:55 AM
Very nice. I can't wait to see it in person.

It will be at daytona if you want to take it for a spin.

D Slicker
12-30-2006, 04:37 PM
I put my Factory/Mariner waterbox in today and all I can say is BRAAAAAAPPPPPPPPP

dbrutherford
12-30-2006, 04:58 PM
Brent,

Do you have a pic of that water box? I was curious what it looked like.

DAVE

D Slicker
12-30-2006, 06:10 PM
Dave, here is is. I bought it used and as far as I can tell it is an older factory/mariner. I someone can tell me if it is anything other than that. I will by them a beer at daytona.

steve802cc
12-30-2006, 07:43 PM
PJS waterbox maybe?

Steve

dbrutherford
01-02-2007, 09:29 AM
No, it's a Mariner for sure. Did you get that from Oasis Performasnce? I have got some parts from Marty before, he used to race X2's back in the day from what he told me.

A little elbow grease, some muraic acid, and an SOS pad.... most aluminum

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will look brand new! But you better clear coat it to get it to stay that way.

D Slicker
01-02-2007, 09:32 AM
No i got it from a guy on PWCToday. He is local to me.

dbrutherford
01-02-2007, 09:55 AM
What did you do with the rest of your SXR?

You should mate up the 800 pump into the X2 next!


I know everyone says a water box doesn't provide crap as far as power goes and they are louder but... THEY ARE MUCH LIGHTER THAN THE FACTORY STAINLESS STEEL WATERBOX! So I am going to run one in my ski! lol

D Slicker
01-02-2007, 10:04 AM
I sold it to a guy in florida. I will be delivering it next week when i goto daytona.

adet16v
01-05-2007, 10:25 AM
brent, i know you didnt have that waterbox in on either of those videos:biggrin: looks like you did a great job cleaning it up. hope that thing kicks ass in daytona for you.

D Slicker
01-05-2007, 10:31 AM
brent, i know you didnt have that waterbox in on either of those videos:biggrin: looks like you did a great job cleaning it up. hope that thing kicks ass in daytona for you.

Yea the vids had stock one in them. I didnt even clean it up after I got it form you. I will see how it runs in 6 days. :arms: :arms: :arms:

Legdragger
01-05-2007, 10:38 AM
What did you do with the rest of your SXR?

You should mate up the 800 pump into the X2 next!




Internally there is only a 6mm difference between the 650 and 800 pump. Set the impeller back 6mm and you have the same dimensions and the 800. Just run a modern prop out of an 800 or a TBM and it is totally updated.

I could add a 650 shoe to an 800/750 pump pretty easy with a metal chop saw and a sawzall to go in an X2. I actually did 3/4 of this operation last night just to see how hard it was to do. It is pretty simple.

dbrutherford
01-05-2007, 02:20 PM
Good to know! I have both a 650 pump and a 750 pump but I haven't really measured anything in either of them.

Brent, you ski looks great! I am jealous!

DAVE

D Slicker
01-06-2007, 05:51 PM
So I decided to add some breathing for the added power. I put 5200 one tube in and pourd some foam in around it to replace some that I took out. After doing some shaping of the foam Im not sure I like it. I dont have any picks of the final yet. I am doing to determin if im ripping the foam out tommorow or leaving it in.

crab
01-06-2007, 10:13 PM
2 inch primary air tube, and dual 1.25 secondary tubes up high. Right side water drain, and left top hood scoop foamed and glassed over. Modded stock foam.

D Slicker
01-16-2007, 06:22 PM
Took it for the maiden voyage at daytona and it ran great for 10 minutes then ran like crap. After swaping electrical boxes and tearing, carbs down, playing with the mixture screws, tossing the outerwares, and 10 sets of plugs. I finnally got it running well enought to have a blast. I see a set of 44s in its future. I will say that it has 10X more power than the 650 and my shoulders are sore from the pull it has. I like it. I want to thank scorn, paul, alex, Ihop, pete(legdragger) and chuck for helping me get it going.

crab
01-16-2007, 06:31 PM
Took it for the maiden voyage at daytona and it ran great for 10 minutes then ran like crap. After swaping electrical boxes and tearing, carbs down, playing with the mixture screws, tossing the outerwares, and 10 sets of plugs. I finnally got it running well enought to have a blast. I see a set of 44s in its future. I will say that it has 10X more power than the 650 and my shoulders are sore from the pull it has. I like it. I want to thank scorn, paul, alex, Ihop and chuck for helping me get it going.
Water injestion is a real problem on these, thus the semi-stock airbox for me. Did you get a ride on Pete's?

D Slicker
01-16-2007, 06:38 PM
Water injestion is a real problem on these, thus the semi-stock airbox for me. Did you get a ride on Pete's?

I fixed the water problem as much as possible. Once again I didnt get to ride his. :frown:

Legdragger
01-17-2007, 01:00 PM
Brent,
That thing looked like it had some killer power. You are going to love that thing. Water ingestion is totally fixable.

Snackem
01-22-2007, 03:10 PM
Brent,
That thing looked like it had some killer power. You are going to love that thing. Water ingestion is totally fixable.

What do you need to do to fix the water ingestion problem? I'm all ears:bigeyes:

Legdragger
01-22-2007, 11:22 PM
I will take some pictures of my system.

Snackem
01-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Thanks Pete I need a good project to work on during spring break. . .


D Slicker you have any video from the daytona ride? I'd love to see how that thing runs, I bet it'll rip your arms off.

D Slicker
01-23-2007, 12:57 PM
Thanks Pete I need a good project to work on during spring break. . .


D Slicker you have any video from the daytona ride? I'd love to see how that thing runs, I bet it'll rip your arms off.

Unfortunatly my helmet cam was pointed to far down so all i got was video of the front of my ski. I will have some in the next couple of months. I plan on being in the water by the end of april. :arms:

Snackem
01-23-2007, 01:16 PM
Unfortunatly my helmet cam was pointed to far down so all i got was video of the front of my ski. I will have some in the next couple of months. I plan on being in the water by the end of april. :arms:

Great I'll keep an eye out. Is it warm enough to ride in April in PA?

D Slicker
01-23-2007, 01:26 PM
Great I'll keep an eye out. Is it warm enough to ride in April in PA?

wetsuit needed but yes. Last rear i rode the first weekend in may.

sxrcohen5
01-23-2007, 03:29 PM
Unfortunatly my helmet cam was pointed to far down so all i got was video of the front of my ski. I will have some in the next couple of months. I plan on being in the water by the end of april. :arms:

April???.......Ill go with ya in march if ya want:biggthumpup:

D Slicker
01-23-2007, 03:31 PM
April???.......Ill go with ya in march if ya want:biggthumpup:

You need something that runs first.:biggthumpup: kidding

D Slicker
05-10-2007, 06:18 PM
So after fighting my water intake problem I decided to fix it once and for all. I cut and ground the inside of the hood out and filled in the holes. I am still running the intake that I had before. I want ot see if it works then I am going to shave the to down like they do in japan. Here are some pic's and sorry if 2 are fuzzy I moved the switch on my camara by accident.

dbrutherford
05-10-2007, 07:34 PM
It is amazing how much lighter the hood is without the liner pieces in it! Looks good.

DBR

D Slicker
05-10-2007, 08:23 PM
I swear it too 8+lbs off the hood

dbrutherford
05-10-2007, 08:30 PM
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/dbrutherford/?start=80

If you look in there, you can see what I did to my spare hood. I left extra "meat" where the hood latch bolts up but I took out all the little stops that the hood rests on the hood seal at. I figured I would chop the hood and then make a new liner. I guess I was just bored that day. lol

DBR

D Slicker
05-11-2007, 09:04 AM
I will be chopping the top next week but wanted to ride it this weekend.

D Slicker
05-15-2007, 07:56 PM
I got the hood cut down and glassed in today. I used the top of the hood to fill in the hole. I will be filling in the gap tomorrow once i get more epoxy.

D Slicker
05-15-2007, 07:58 PM
Here is it glassed

Legdragger
05-15-2007, 11:22 PM
Nice num-chucks!

D Slicker
05-16-2007, 03:54 PM
Nice num-chucks!

Thanks..:biggrin:

D Slicker
05-16-2007, 06:45 PM
So today I filled in the top and am going to sand it down tomorrow. I know i went alittle overboard on the 407 but I knew i would be sanding alot of it down. For the inside I 5200 2 mixing stick to help suport the glass as it was drying. I left 2 inches in the front of the hood and will be cutting 3 holes in the rear to let air in.

dbrutherford
05-16-2007, 07:19 PM
The only thing I have against your design is that you removed the "stops" where the hood rests on the hood seal. I chopped mine out too but I was going to make longer ones when I fabbed a new hood liner.

Still though, I like the chopped hood look. If i could only make one of those fancy trim pieces to go with chopped hoods....

D Slicker
05-16-2007, 07:38 PM
What stops? The hood sits in the same pace as it did before. It does bo out a little on the bottom but not bad.

Snackem
05-17-2007, 12:27 AM
so are you taking the foam out of the hood as well? Wouldn't possibly cause the ski to sink since there's not much room for foam anywhere else in the ski?

D Slicker
05-17-2007, 07:27 AM
Yep the foam is gone in the hood. I have some in the nose.

Snackem
05-17-2007, 01:42 PM
So you don't worry about the boat sinking? Is there enough foam elsewhere (how much did you put in the nose and where)? I'd like to mod the air intake similar to what you and Crab have done but I'm hesitant to remove the foam from under the hood and have the ski sink. . .

dbrutherford
05-17-2007, 03:21 PM
Really the only foam in X2's is that big hunk under the hood you can see and the foam that is beneath the foot wells. I like Pete's idea of using the 94/95 X2 waterbox and foam in the nose. It is less weight than the rubber pedastools and it adds a little boyuance. Pete put his X2 on a serious diet. I was toying with the idea of an 1100 until I had to remove one from a ZXi I jhust bought. Those tripples are freaking heavy!

Snackem
05-17-2007, 03:49 PM
So in theory wouldn't an X2 sink to the bottom of the sea/lake/river? I would like to remove the foam from my ski but I don't want to lose it to the bottom. . . I wonder if you cut the seat up a bit and removed the under seat storage, reinforced around it and then foamed that and glassed over the top if that would add enough buoyancy?

Legdragger
05-18-2007, 01:22 PM
I am in favor of any foam I can strap to my ski. I went back to the old school handlebar pad partly for that reason. The other is I smash my face off the bars a lot trying new tricks. I have the scars to prove it:banghead: . I do run as much foam as I can in the hood though, it is trimmed a bunch to clear stuff but there is some there.


I was working on my own hood molds a while ago but had to put it on the back burner for a while but did realize I needed some kind of hood stops Dave was talking about of the hood would just split if it landed inverted hard. The stops grab the hood and keep it from blowing out each way.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/racerboypete/hood005.jpg

dbrutherford
05-18-2007, 02:34 PM
I tried to find a pic of my old 650 SX hood. The X2 only has those 4 little stops. Looks like you cut one off to remove that drain tube. Those suckers are epoxied in there good! But the X2 does have the hinge which helps for support a good bit and it rests on the top of the hull by the steering. Still kind of shocks me that they don't had the full length hood stops like the stand ups do.

D Slicker
05-19-2007, 04:23 PM
Here are acouple more pic's. Dave I see what you mean bu the hood stops now. I think with the latches I will be ok.

Snackem
05-19-2007, 04:28 PM
You still have the external fuel fill? Ever lost the fuel door?

D Slicker
05-19-2007, 05:03 PM
Nope, never lost it. I may goto an internal fill this winter.

grezzmky
03-04-2008, 09:23 PM
Here are acouple more pic's. Dave I see what you mean bu the hood stops now. I think with the latches I will be ok.



please tell me that that is not the one part red body filler.... :twak:

Kennay
03-04-2008, 10:29 PM
It's probably fairing compound mixed with epoxy, chill out sparky.

dbrutherford
03-05-2008, 07:31 AM
Pete, I tried 55-3317 bracket, look at the way my carbs mount (pump out) it wont work. If I was running 44's it wouldnt be a problem. I will try and get the foam, thanks for the idea.


Brent, why wouldn't this bracket work? I just bought on and a UMI wheel. Between those two I could have bought TWO throttle cables. Man that sucks...

D Slicker
03-05-2008, 09:10 AM
The bolt hole spacing was different. I used a 750ss cable (i think) its in this thread somewhere and the stock throttle tab.

dbrutherford
03-05-2008, 01:10 PM
STS throttle cable. I wish I would have went back and read this thread. I knew you used a differentcable. But when I was doing my Hot Products order I was like "look there, that bracket looks like it will work just fine. Besides they are both Mikuni carbs..." I guess I was WRONG! You said so in this thread :( long before I ever even got my engine a year ago... Darn throttle drum is like 36 bucks and that bracket is 22! Looks like another jet ski part for the shelf...

D Slicker
03-05-2008, 01:12 PM
STS throttle cable. I wish I would have went back and read this thread. I knew you used a differentcable. But when I was doing my Hot Products order I was like "look there, that bracket looks like it will work just fine. Besides they are both Mikuni carbs..." I guess I was WRONG! You said so in this thread :( long before I ever even got my engine a year ago... Darn throttle drum is like 36 bucks and that bracket is 22! Looks like another jet ski part for the shelf...

EBAY dave, I know you have my number all you have to do is call.

dbrutherford
03-05-2008, 06:18 PM
EBAY dave, I know you have my number all you have to do is call.

Ebay Dave, lol I used to go on Bar Crawls back in college where you paid like $10 bucks and got into a different bar every half hour for free and got great drink specials. Well I met these two girls doing a crawl and from then on my name in their cell phones was "Bar Crawl Dave". Kind of funny.