View Full Version : Lanier 07 Buildoff Contender
The purpose of this thread is to give you guys a glimpse of my entry for the 2007 buildoff and also to get you other competitors off your lazy arses and in the shop. As you can see from the pics, I have a LONG way to go. The starting point is an old squarenose hull that I received from SJ/XP Bri (Big thanks). Paul brought it to me at Lanier 06 and I've sat on it until now. I was going to turn this into a surf boat and start the buildoff with a much cleaner hull, but my wife is riding the other hull now and she likes it the way it is. I'll keep the thread updated with bits and pieces as I go, but you won't get a complete look at the build until after the buildoff. The hull is going to get some very extensive fiberglass work, starting with repairing the super vag that I had to grind out of the bottom of the hull to fix a big crack. I haven't chosen a powerplant yet, but I'll probably do something that keeps it competition legal in case I want to compete in amateur freestyle in the future. These first 4 pics show what it looks like after 2 evenings of stripping hardware and grinding ribs.
The purpose of this thread is to give you guys a glimpse of my entry for the 2007 buildoff and also to get you other competitors off your lazy arses and in the shop. As you can see from the pics, I have a LONG way to go. The starting point is an old squarenose hull that I received from SJ/XP Bri (Big thanks). Paul brought it to me at Lanier 06 and I've sat on it until now. I was going to turn this into a surf boat and start the buildoff with a much cleaner hull, but my wife is riding the other hull now and she likes it the way it is. I'll keep the thread updated with bits and pieces as I go, but you won't get a complete look at the build until after the buildoff. The hull is going to get some very extensive fiberglass work, starting with repairing the super vag that I had to grind out of the bottom of the hull to fix a big crack. I haven't chosen a powerplant yet, but I'll probably do something that keeps it competition legal in case I want to compete in amateur freestyle in the future. These first 4 pics show what it looks like after 2 evenings of stripping hardware and grinding ribs.
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those pics.......I think.
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I didn't say when I'd compete. It's not like I have to go out next season and do it......although I might. As soon as I perfect the no-handed flatwater backie I'm in:rolleyes: Maybe I'll settle for a decent BR.
beachjunkey
10-06-2006, 01:02 PM
It's night like that (http://x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11655&d=1160150461) that call for some heavy sleeping medication :439: :beerchug: :439:
Here's an update from before I started working on it last night. The square nose is gone and now I have a ton of work to do. I plan on sculpting the bottom lip area out of eps foam and glassing over that. Next, I'll shape and sculpt a new top deck nose out of eps and pull a mold off of that and then make the glass piece. I cut around the pole mount area. It is getting cut almost all the way through underneath the back edge so that I can make it flat like a round nose. I didn't get to do much last night except I cut out the typical window in the bottom of the tray and started defoaming. I'm going to wait until my footholds come in (should be monday) and then I'll cut the forward side cutouts to defoam the rest. As long as I don't take too many breaks I might actually finish before May.
FL-cracker
10-12-2006, 10:04 AM
Damn......cant wait to see how it turns out..... Your ski looks about how my hood looked last week..... it is awsome what you can do with fiberglass. Good luck Garrett
Freestyleriverrat
10-12-2006, 10:13 AM
Cool :biggthumpup: I wish I got this early of a start on my project.........I might have just made the build off in time instead of wrenching at Lanier :haha: Cant wait to hear more info on the build :woot:
PAIR-A-DICE
10-12-2006, 10:13 AM
Damn, Garrett---it looks like your going gray a little early...:dunno: :bad3:
Damn, Garrett---it looks like your going gray a little early...:dunno: :bad3:
Check your PM's..I need to locate a better hood.
FL Cracker: Did you ever post pics of that hood? I want to see that.
WaveDemon
10-12-2006, 10:15 AM
Cool :biggthumpup: I wish I got this early of a start on my project.........I might have just made the build off in time instead of wrenching at Lanier :haha: Cant wait to hear more info on the build :woot:
arn't you STILL wrenching on that thing? :biggrin:
FL-cracker
10-12-2006, 10:20 AM
Check your PM's..I need to locate a better hood.
FL Cracker: Did you ever post pics of that hood? I want to see that.
Man, by sometime next week for sure.....my friend graduates MMI this Friday, so he will be around. He's got the camera, and the smarts that I need. I will get them up asap.:biggthumpup:
Freestyleriverrat
10-12-2006, 10:22 AM
arn't you STILL wrenching on that thing? :biggrin:
I'm not at liberty to say :sneaky: On the up side it is a completly different boat than it was at Lanier :biggthumpup: Bigger, badder and more scratches :haha:
douglee25
10-12-2006, 10:25 AM
I was thinking that while you have the nose apart, it may be really easy to reinforce that pole area. It's always such a pain to reinforce upside down with little light in there. Obviously you'll still have to tie it in to your new nose piece, but it may be something to look into. Just a thought :)
Doug
T-bone
10-12-2006, 10:40 AM
i've pushed mine back to the 2010 build off................i'll be 95% finished by then im sure.
It's been awhile since I posted so I figured I should show a little progress. I've started to defoam the tray area. I'm still waiting on footholds before I go any further. When I get the footholds I'll position them and then sculpt the sides of the tray and glass over the sculpted sides before defoaming completely and glassing in footholds, exhaust, sucppers, etc. The pics you see show where I have begun to shape eps foam in preparation for glassing in a new front lip. It might look a little off center, but that's because my cut was not even on both sides. I assure you that everything will be even before I start glassing. You can also see where I had to widen the hole in the hull. That will start getting glass soon. You can also clearly see where I hacked up the pole mount area and bent it down flat. I achieved this by using a dremel with a grinding stone to grind out the backside where the bend is. I was surprised at how much "meat" I was able to leave and yet still bend it down easily. The grinding action heated up the material rather well and then I helped it out with my heat gun. It's not perfectly flat but I'll fix that soon enough. Next, I plan on finishing the foam work up front and glassing in a front lip. After that I can build up eps foam into what the new nose will look like. That will get sanded and coated with spackling compound and then I'll make a cheapo mold of that. I don't plan on doing this more than once so a good mold is not a priority.
PLEASE NOTE: I am using eps foam (styrofoam) to do all of my shaping and I'll end up putting epoxy resin over that. You CAN NOT do this with your typical epoxy resin ie West Systems or US Composites. There is only one company that I know of that makes a solvent free marine epoxy resin and that's what I'll be using because as luck would have it, that's what I buy for our mold shop at work.
Freestyleriverrat
10-24-2006, 02:37 AM
That is going to look killer!! Can't wait to see how this thing start taking shape.:sneaky:
SkiDaddy
10-24-2006, 08:08 AM
Go Garret!:biggthumpup:
Looks like I got lucky on the round nose part. I just put the overhead picture into SolidWorks and drew a radius over it. Looks like it's almost dead on with no more than 1/16" out in any spot. It even appears to be centered. My glass cloth just showed up so now I just have to wait on a resupply of resin before I can begin the fun stuff.
Waste Land
10-27-2006, 03:20 AM
WOOT WOOT! Cant wait to see it Garrett
Front lip is now done. I used 3 layers of 1708 Knytex. As you can see, the cloth didn't want to lay down so I ended up using staples placed by hand (not the staple gun) to try to get it to lay down. Overall it did pretty well and there are only a few places where the lip isn't flat. I should be able to sand that down just fine. The lip is very strong. I can flex it some, but after I add the top deck portion of the nose and then reinforce from the inside after they are together, I should have no strength issues.
My plans keep changing every time I go out in the garage. I am going to get the nose done first before I do any more work on the tray area, but to finish the nose I have to cut the hood down since the lines will have to match. I still plan on building up and shaping eps foam in order to make a cheapo mold. It's moving a little slower than I would like it to, but for now there's plenty of time to finish.
FL-cracker
10-31-2006, 07:44 AM
That ski is coming out great bro! Nice work, keep it up......I am well into my build as well....I am trying some things that have never been done.....way to think outside the box, or square lol
feartheride
10-31-2006, 07:50 AM
What is the styrofoam you are using on the nose come in 1/4" sheets and are you gluing together as you lay it on top of each other
What is the styrofoam you are using on the nose come in 1/4" sheets and are you gluing together as you lay it on top of each other
We get the styrofoam by about 1000 sheets at a time for packing cast stone onto pallets. It's 1 lb density and I believe it's about 1/2". I used some hot glue but quickly found out that you can only use it right after the gun is warm enough to melt the glue. Any hotter and you'll melt foam. I didn't have to use much glue since the foam almost held itself in place. I did use a few drywall screws to temporarily hold the foam. Just a reminder: You CAN NOT use typical epoxy resin with foam. The brand we buy at work is the only brand I know of that will not eat the foam.
That ski is coming out great bro! Nice work, keep it up......I am well into my build as well....I am trying some things that have never been done.....way to think outside the box, or square lol
Thanks. If all of the ideas that are in my head can materialize, this will be one bad SOB. There are going to be quite a few things that I've never seen before.
You ever going to post some pics?
FL-cracker
10-31-2006, 08:16 AM
Thanks. If all of the ideas that are in my head can materialize, this will be one bad SOB. There are going to be quite a few things that I've never seen before.
You ever going to post some pics?
for sure man, its just hard not having a Camera....I have already takin some pics, but my friend has not had time to help me load them.:banghead: I will hav my own build thread.....maybe we can exchange some secrets.:haha:
So far I have cut out the tray, removed all foam, and gutted the entire boat. Today I will be prepping the entire boat for a little Kevlar reinforcement. My Boat Is at Bobby's shop....Trinity Composites.....I am doing all the work except for laying the Kevlar.....I will leave that to the Pro!
Big Kahuna
10-31-2006, 08:25 AM
wait, are you using a RN top deck or modifing a square, I know, maybe I should go back and read...........
Flame away!!!!!!!!!!
wait, are you using a RN top deck or modifing a square, I know, maybe I should go back and read...........
Flame away!!!!!!!!!!
Neither. Making my own. I'm going to shape foam and then make a mold of that. I'm only doing it once so the mold won't be pretty. I think it is going to be a roundnose/octane/sxr/sxi frankenbeast. I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do with the hood. I'm leaning towards making it like an octane hood but I need to find more pics.
Big Kahuna
10-31-2006, 09:54 AM
I would lean towards a Superjet RN Hood, more choices.............
I would lean towards a Superjet RN Hood, more choices.............
I'm not buying one, I'm modifying mine. My money is going to be spent on XMW stuff and the motor and paint. My time is going to be spent on the custom glass work. I think I like the way the octane hood eliminates the need for a separate nose piece. I just have to figure out the mechanics of it all for this situation. From the bulkhead back is going to have at least as much customization as the front half, if not more.
FL-cracker
10-31-2006, 11:07 AM
I'm not buying one, I'm modifying mine. My money is going to be spent on XMW stuff and the motor and paint. My time is going to be spent on the custom glass work. I think I like the way the octane hood eliminates the need for a separate nose piece. I just have to figure out the mechanics of it all for this situation. From the bulkhead back is going to have at least as much customization as the front half, if not more.
cant wait to see that!:sneaky: :biggrin:
Big Kahuna
10-31-2006, 01:46 PM
ok, I thought you were totally building the top deck, just frankensteining it.
CoreyLKN
11-06-2006, 07:29 PM
I think we need some more pics.
give me a couple days. I went to Panama City for the weekend so now I"m stuck working 18 hours today. Maybe I'll get to it tomorrow.
Big Kahuna
11-06-2006, 09:39 PM
good thing you did not race!!!!!!!! you would not be working 18 hours today!!!!!!!Glad you made it home.
great seeing you again.
Good to see all of you guys too. It's 10:45 and I'm finally done working for the day. I lied. It only ended up being 17 hours because I cut some corners. Maybe I'll get some garage time tomorrow.
PAIR-A-DICE
11-06-2006, 10:59 PM
I would lean towards a Superjet RN Hood, more choices.............
I think Garrett found a round nose hood this past weekend---some guy from Panama City gave him one I heard...:sneaky:
First off, I need to say thank you to Chick for donating a roundnose hood to the project. Second, I have to tell you that it won't work. Unfortunately, the rear half of the round and square hoods are very different and I don't see how I could make it work and still seal correctly. Thanks Chick. It's here when you need it or I can sell it and send you the money.
I haven't gotten very much done lately for various reasons. As you can see, I opened up the vents in the hood a little bit. It should be able to breath well.(sarcasm) I removed the hood liner and I have begun to hack it up in order to add styrofoam and glass it into it's new shape. The red piece of cardboard is a very rough representation of what I think I'll end up with. Take a look at an Octane and you'll see what I'm going for. It will eliminate the separate nose piece and hopefully allow me to narrow up the wide gap that squarenoses have in front of the hood. I'm still not happy with how the back of the hood looks, but it is a good start. I should have some foam shaped up next time I post pics.
PAIR-A-DICE
11-08-2006, 09:14 AM
First off, I need to say thank you to Chick for donating a roundnose hood to the project. Second, I have to tell you that it won't work. Unfortunately, the rear half of the round and square hoods are very different and I don't see how I could make it work and still seal correctly. Thanks Chick. It's here when you need it or I can sell it and send you the money.
Well, crap---I thought with all the other glass work going into this thing you would be able to figure something out. :banghead:
Sell the hood and buy a round of drinks at Daytona with the proceeds. :Banane01:
YAMA CAT
11-08-2006, 09:42 AM
Garrett,
Nice work! I can't wait to see your progess. Keep us posted. You have come a long way since we 1st met you and your 650SX. Now you are full blown Super Jet Junkie:Banane01: :Banane01:
PAIR-A-DICE
11-08-2006, 09:49 AM
Garrett,
You have come a long way since we 1st met you and your 650SX.
He's even barrel rolling now---just ask him, he'll tell you!!!
Although the surf was too small on Saturday in Panama City for him to prove it to me.:boggled:
He's even barrel rolling now---just ask him, he'll tell you!!!
Although the surf was too small on Saturday in Panama City for him to prove it to me.:boggled:
It wasn't too small when I actually wanted you to ride. It was just too small (non existant) when we finally got out on the water.
PAIR-A-DICE
11-08-2006, 01:00 PM
It wasn't too small when I actually wanted you to ride. It was just too small (non existant) when we finally got out on the water.
Yeah---I guess you're right. Did you pull any when you were riding with Jesse? :dunno:
Waste Land
11-08-2006, 01:56 PM
Yeah---I guess you're right. Did you pull any when you were riding with Jesse? :dunno:
Garrett is a one pump chump who prolly over rotated a stab and now is expertise:haha: :shooter3:
More then i can say....Daytona will be my day
Yeah---I guess you're right. Did you pull any when you were riding with Jesse? :dunno:
No, I told him that I was waiting on you. I didn't want to break anything and not be able to teach you:pokey: When you finally decided to ride, it was flatter than flat.
WaveDemon
11-08-2006, 01:59 PM
Garrett is a one pump chump
He and saki should start a free ride school and teach BFs and BRs. :biggthumpup:
PAIR-A-DICE
11-08-2006, 02:45 PM
Garrett is a one pump chump who prolly over rotated a stab and now is expertise:haha: :shooter3:
More then i can say....Daytona will be my day
Glad you qualified that statement with the "more than I can say" bit.
Everyone was waiting for you to huck one yourself since you threw the helmet on and everything for Sunday's routine.
Big Kahuna
11-08-2006, 02:47 PM
yeah, we were on pins and needles!!!!!!! LOL
PAIR-A-DICE
11-08-2006, 02:47 PM
No, I told him that I was waiting on you. I didn't want to break anything and not be able to teach you:pokey: When you finally decided to ride, it was flatter than flat.
Damn!!! So it's MY fault you didn't have any attempts----that's just lame. :frown: :bad3: :rolleyes:
I'm sure Jesse would have verified any and all attempts/results. :cool2:
PAIR-A-DICE
11-08-2006, 02:48 PM
He and saki should start a free ride school and teach BFs and BRs. :biggthumpup:
Now that's just good comedy right there. :haha:
WOW!
You really got some serious work ahead of you. There is not much left of that hood or the handlepole bracket area.
Good luck :biggthumpup:
Finally an update. This portion of the work has gone extremely SLOW. It's very hard to get the foam symetric and I've been putting in some serious hours at work so I haven't had the time that I need. I'm getting close on shaping the foam. You can see where I spread some spackling compound to try to smooth things out a bit and fix some oversanding. I've got a little more work to do on getting the hood symetric and then I'm going to paint it all with brown latex pain that I have laying around so that I can see what I've got a little better. I was going to do a mold of the foam and then make a piece and install it, but I've since changed my mind. I'm only going to do this once ever so I'm going to put about 3 layers of glass over what I've got and then remove the foam with acetone and add a few more layers inside. I know it won't be the smoothest surface, but I can sand and fill until I get what I need. One of the pics show in red where the hood and in blue where the hull will be. The black X'd out area is going to be open for the pole mount. This very similar to what an Octane has and it eliminates the nose piece. I have to make the hood first and then come back and do the hull portion. I'm in the middle of making an X-Metalworks order for pretty much everything Pat's got. I need a good bit of the stuff now so that I can get the pole mount area and hood hook area correct.
FL-cracker
12-06-2006, 11:36 AM
Damn! That is looking sweet! I gave up on my hood, went with the WD diablo. Just wasnt what I wanted. Oh well.
damn garrett.........youre not messin' around....
btw...if you need a backup instructor for your freeride school...Im availible
Your beagle rocks! I had that guy's twin when I was growing up. Hull is coming along....Wow that's still alot of work left. Keep at it!
Garrett is gonna be schooling you soon Idoc..... At least he is ATTEMPTING rolls :cool2: :biggrin:
EvanB85
12-06-2006, 12:53 PM
Frankenboat indeed. Nice work. This build has some major potential. Keep it up.
YAMA CAT
12-06-2006, 04:25 PM
You go Garrett! See that you have plenty of supervision:purr: :purr: :purr: :purr:
Not a whole lot of progress, but I have the final shape of the hood and nose done so I got to remove the hood and see what it looks like by itself. You'll have to use your imagination to figure out the nose area of the hull because what you see is not what is going to get glassed over in the pole mount area. I have to do some shaping in order to get a transition from the sides of the nose where the hood meets to the pole mount area, which will be flat. The hood actually ended up looking a litte better than I thought it would. It kind of has a stingray look to it. Those pieces of foam in the front of the hood will basically just get a fiberglassed over on the outside like an Octane. It's amazing how long this detail work is taking me. I'm already on my 5th "OK this is the last night before I get to lay glass" Maybe someday before Christmas I'll get some glass laid.
Rickster
12-13-2006, 06:23 PM
Dude, that is looking awesome!
Question, is that hood going to rotate enough to get the hood hooks out of the keepers, or do you have something else planed?
Dude, that is looking awesome!
Question, is that hood going to rotate enough to get the hood hooks out of the keepers, or do you have something else planed?
I've been working on that. My plan right now is to get some spacers fabbed up to raise the hood hooks just a bit and I'll just give it enough of a gap to work. I'm finalizing my Xmetal order tomorrow so I should be able to start test fitting parts soon. I'm pretty confident that I can make it work and still look good. Those little challenges are half the fun.
RMBC Freeride
12-13-2006, 06:49 PM
Wow, somehow I missed this build... OMFG dude you have your work cut out for you!!! But looks like its going well, nice job. I like the Octane style hood. Best of luck on the rest of the build.
Now... Since it was a square... and you made the hood like an Octane... and its still not technically a roundie...
I think you should call it the "OCTAGON" :cool:
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Rickster
12-13-2006, 07:21 PM
Octagon, I like....
GDFL, you going to bring this to Daytona ride? I would love to see this in person!:biggthumpup:
I should be able to bring what I have done so far. I'll try to plan on that. I cut the fiberglass cloth for the hood last night so I should be glassing very soon. I also figured out how I'm going to get the nose to work without getting any interference when opening the hood.
Octagon....hmm.....I've already got a paint scheme figured out but that won't be seen until Lanier. I'll ask the ski what it thinks about the name and see if he likes it.
SkiNaked
12-14-2006, 07:05 AM
Looks great. I like the concept. Keep the pics coming.
PAIR-A-DICE
12-14-2006, 07:43 AM
I'll ask the ski what it thinks about the name and see if he likes it.
:bigeyes: Too much resin inhalation?!? :Banane01:
Very cool !!!
Glad to see someone doing something different!
keep up the good work!
Time for an update. I glassed the hood Saturday evening. It has two layers of 1708 knytex. I cut oversize pieces of cloth and wetted them out where necessary while on the hood. I spent almost two hours with an RO sander to get it to what is shown in the pictures. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. I still need to trim up a few areas and then deal with some high and low spots. The black was for me to see the "finished" product without the distracting color changes and also to help me sand. I'll be gone this weekend, but I should be able to start glassing the nose area on Tuesday if I don't get to it before then. This is slow work. Good thing I started so early or I wouldn't have a prayer of finishing by May. BTW, that last pic is a 218lb stress test that the hood passed with flying colors. :arms: The slime on the inside of the hood is the foam and spackling compound after being eaten with acetone. I'll clean everything up inside and probably add another layer of thinner cloth. The hood extensions will definitely get another layer plus a little extra reinforcement.
sjetrider
12-20-2006, 01:11 PM
wOw, thats gonna look sweet assembled. I do not envy the amount of sanding your in for.
wOw, thats gonna look sweet assembled. I do not envy the amount of sanding your in for.
You have no idea how much misery I was in from the sanding I did two nights ago just before I painted. I had fiberglass all over me well into the next day, which was two showers later.
RiverRat
12-20-2006, 01:55 PM
WOW! that is allot of work! Good job
FL-cracker
12-20-2006, 02:35 PM
Looks awsome, but I think the back of the hood drops off too sharp. nice job though.
wow i missed this one too....great job i was gonna be doing something like this for the build off myself....till i had to sell my beloved square:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: but hey ill get another then its on......anyone wanna donate me a free hull????
keep up the killer work bro cant wait to see the finished product....:biggthumpup:
Thanks for all the compliments guys.....it helps. FL Cracker: there is a reason for the hood dropping off sharply like it does, but that will just have to be disclosed at Lanier:cool2: It's really not so sharp if you look at it from the right angle, but it doesn't have the typical aftermarket big air scoops. If it all works out half as well as it does in my head, it'll be pretty cool.
FL-cracker
12-21-2006, 07:54 AM
True True.... it will be at a different angle on the boat then on the ground.... didnt think of that.
YAMA CAT
01-03-2007, 01:26 PM
Ok Garrett give us some up dates!:purr: :purr: :purr:
Update: This stuff goes SLOW. I really thought I'd be to the next step by now. I cut the cloth last night and I'll be glassing the nose tonight. I'll still have to form up the pole mount area to make sure it's strong enough, but then I'll be able to mount the hood and pole and then work on some other stuff. I'm trying to start in the front and work my way to the back. Otherwise I'll do what I always do which is to start 50 projects and hardly finish any of them.
YAMA CAT
01-03-2007, 01:48 PM
Holidays make things go slow! What you are doing is pretty cool and I can't wait to see the finished product at Lanier!
See you at Daytona! Maybe you can win some really cool toys for your build at the raffle!:purr: :purr:
It's been a long time since the last update. I decided to slow down on the updates because much of the work that I've been doing is labor intensive but light on results. I finally have enough to show.
The pole mount area is rock solid. There are 7 layers of 1708 knytex on the flat section and then 5-6 layers everywhere else. I have one small area of the nose to add a few layers to inside the hull, but for the most part I'm done and I can finally move on to other areas. :arms: The hood is also rock solid. I weighed it at 10lbs before I added the last two layers to the font lip and "ears" I imagine that it'll be around 14lbs with liner when I'm done.
I'm very happy with the results so far. I can't believe how long it took to get to this point. I could have taken my worst estimate of time and tripled it and still not be where I'm at now. The rest of the hull should go much, much faster since there isn't nearly as much freehand forming.
If you look at the side view pic of the hull, I've trimmed about 3/8" -1/2" off of the rails. I did this because I'll be using epoxy with filler to make a roundnose style rail all the way around.
The project finally has a name. This is now known as project Square-go-Round. Cheesy huh?
Big Kahuna
02-02-2007, 09:02 AM
Hey Garrett, uh you forgot something on the front of the ski..............
oh, bet the wife is loving not having a garage!!!!!!!!!!
RiverRat
02-02-2007, 09:16 AM
That is looking tuff man :biggthumpup: Keep it up!!
Hey Garrett, uh you forgot something on the front of the ski..............
oh, bet the wife is loving not having a garage!!!!!!!!!!
The wife isn't happy about the garage, but she has been incredibly understanding about the whole ordeal. :biggthumpup:
I didn't forget anything in the front. Remember that guy at this fall's Panama City race that did a turn sub into the bottom and tore the front lip off his ski? I seem to remember him getting towed in backwards because his bow eye was gone.
I'm going to do like Butti and others have done. It's getting a stainless bow loop installed under the lip. I think it'll be a cleaner look and probably stronger.
Big Kahuna
02-02-2007, 12:27 PM
The wife isn't happy about the garage, but she has been incredibly understanding about the whole ordeal. :biggthumpup:
I didn't forget anything in the front. Remember that guy at this fall's Panama City race that did a turn sub into the bottom and tore the front lip off his ski? I seem to remember him getting towed in backwards because his bow eye was gone.
I'm going to do like Butti and others have done. It's getting a stainless bow loop installed under the lip. I think it'll be a cleaner look and probably stronger.
LOL........
YAMA CAT
02-02-2007, 01:06 PM
You Go Garrett! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: Keep the pic's coming!
djkorn1
02-05-2007, 12:18 AM
Looking killer!!! Can't wait to see it at Lanier.
yamaslut
02-07-2007, 09:48 AM
wow... interesting build
Rickster
02-07-2007, 10:09 AM
Looking good...
Have you weighed the hull yet?
I'm scared to weigh it. I'm doing some cutting on the back end now. All of this stuff should go much faster.
Rickster
02-07-2007, 12:31 PM
I'm scared to weigh it. I'm doing some cutting on the back end now. All of this stuff should go much faster.
:haha:
MADMAT
02-07-2007, 01:48 PM
Wow! That is lookin great man!:biggthumpup:
onesojourner
02-07-2007, 06:20 PM
this is a sweet build thread, such a massive amount of work. I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Update time. All of the latest work was on the bottom. On the front, I poured some 4lb foam and sculpted it until I had a nice round shape to the nose. This is pretty cosmetic, but it is something that even the roundnose doesn't have. I really like the way it turned out. On the bottom of the hull I added two layers of 1708 knytex. I did this for a couple of reasons. The hull is old and was getting a little thin. I also wanted to do a little reinforcing in that area so I don't pull a Caker. The third reason is that I ride 75% surf so there will be a lot of beaching that I wanted to go ahead and get prepared for. Now I don't have to worry about wearing through the hull.
In the back there are two things going on. I cut and clearanced the little corners for the trim nozzle to have full throw and to be able to turn. I wanted to do a cut-back hull, but I wanted to do it a little different from the standard. I don't like the way that a standard cut-back leaves the ride plate hanging out on it's own in the back and I didn't want to do a radical cut anyway. I decided to go with a corner cut at -3" I think this will make the rear end nice and loose and probably help backflips a little. Basically what I ended up with is the same hull area reduction as a -1.5" cut, but with full support for the ride plate and hopefully better sliding characteristics. I'm going with dual X-Metal scuppers on the back end. Since scuppers don't work very well when they're hanging at an angle, I'm going with a counterbore installation to make them vertical. As you can see in the pic, I've started on one side and you can get the general idea of where I'm going.
I also need to mention that Paul at Lehr Performance Watercraft is building my engine. I'm going with a competition legal big bore flattop setup. This is his fairly standard setup with 62T cases and 61x top end. Paul has been very helpful so far and he's helped me with some ideas that I've bounced off of him.
douglee25
02-13-2007, 09:05 PM
Looking sweet man!
Doug
kurtwolff
02-13-2007, 11:08 PM
Looks awesome! Keep up the great work!
Antony Ukraine
02-14-2007, 11:28 AM
Good afternoon GDFL. Excuse for English, but I have to you a question. What final collector you will be изпользывать? Whether there is at you its photo, or the drawing?
yamaslut
02-14-2007, 11:37 AM
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Good afternoon GDFL. Excuse for English, but I have to you a question. What final collector you will be изпользывать? Whether there is at you its photo, or the drawing?
I am not sure that I understand what you are asking. Could you rephrase that for me?
Antony Ukraine
02-14-2007, 11:57 AM
I am sorry for language. Me interests what collector and a pipe you will put?
I will use a Factory B-pipe manifold and head pipe and the chamber is a Factory pipe B-mod chamber for a Blaster.
Antony Ukraine
02-14-2007, 12:02 PM
Thanks, for the answer.
butti
02-14-2007, 12:04 PM
I will use a Factory B-pipe manifold and head pipe and the chamber is a Factory pipe B-mod chamber for a Blaster.
do you already have the chamber? do you still need cases?
do you already have the chamber? do you still need cases?
Have chamber. Need cases.
beachjunkey
02-14-2007, 12:46 PM
Holy! :omfg: I hadn't checked back in on this thread since day 1. Hats off dude, looks like you are doing some serious great work. I glassed up my square's nose the other night but it doesn't look an eighth as decent as yours :hail:
Yesterday I had the first of many multiple-hour sanding sessions. I'm starting to feel good about this thing and where it's going. Today I cut down the sides to their rough shape. I still have a long way to go, but my goal is to get it ready for paint within 2-3 weeks. So far I've gone through almost 7 yards of 1708 knytex. Looks like I'll have to buy about 2 more yards to finish up.
Hogggman
02-18-2007, 07:33 PM
What a backhanded compliment.
CoreyLKN
02-18-2007, 08:01 PM
That is a sexy squarenose:bigeyes:. Those footholds are pretty far up though, even if you shortened the hull you wouldnt want them up that far, would you?
It's a -4 Xmetal pole and it looks awesome on there. I'll try to put the bracket back on and get another pick. I put the footholds further forward because my fat azz tends to make my current ski ride too nose high. Also, the pole is going to be very short overall. Since I redid the pole mount area, it is no longer angled back like on a normal square so the change in geometry actually shortens the pole by another inch or more. We'll see how the footholds do, but I think I'm going to like it. It should make for better weight distribution and less back pain. My back still doesn't like the 3.5" I cut off of my current pole.
Rickster
02-18-2007, 10:07 PM
I like it.:Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01:
It's something different, other than different color or sticker set.:woot:
Boris
02-19-2007, 12:09 AM
I love this build and have gone through it several times since it was first posted.
What a way to utilise the square which are plentiful and cheap.
I'm sure that buying a conversion top deck would have been easier but I just don't get those, all you gain is looks and a herniated wallet.
Doing it this way you get a ton of experience , a truly custom boat, something totally unique.
Now that the nice, nice stuff is out of the way,.....
are you sure about the foothold placement ?
Great work so far and thanks for showing us that spending big on a round nose hull isn't everything. :woot:
RiverRat
02-19-2007, 12:16 AM
Sweet!! :hail:
meatball
02-19-2007, 02:10 AM
i cant believe its a square! im diggin it! the only thing im not crazy about it the shnozz in the profile view.... it looks like a beak. im thinking the pole is going to help that. what kinda pole are you going to put on it?
those footholds are more fwd than any others ive seen. interesting.
I agree a little, but since its unpainted, its really easy to distinguish what he added on (and call it a beak). I think it will all gel together once painted. Its very hard to tell whats uniform and whatnot just through a few pics IMO.
Looks good, hopefully Ill be a Lanier to see it!
I love this build and have gone through it several times since it was first posted.
What a way to utilise the square which are plentiful and cheap.
I'm sure that buying a conversion top deck would have been easier but I just don't get those, all you gain is looks and a herniated wallet.
Doing it this way you get a ton of experience , a truly custom boat, something totally unique.
Now that the nice, nice stuff is out of the way,.....
are you sure about the foothold placement ?
Great work so far and thanks for showing us that spending big on a round nose hull isn't everything. :woot:
Have faith. That's my natural, non-surf stance position anyway. I think it will put the weight distribution just right for ME (not for everyone). Think about where your center of mass is when doing rolls in surf stance. I don't think this will be much different.
Thanks for the compliments.
thegoldenboy
02-20-2007, 12:34 AM
Great work so far!
I'm cutting the sides of my tray soon and was wanting to glass a nose also, the only difference being the stock hood. And different lines of course.
You've inspiried me now. This build is awesome! Hope you don't mind if I fire over some PM's when I need help.
Sick lookin square:hail:
Great work so far!
I'm cutting the sides of my tray soon and was wanting to glass a nose also, the only difference being the stock hood. And different lines of course.
You've inspiried me now. This build is awesome! Hope you don't mind if I fire over some PM's when I need help.
Sick lookin square:hail:
No problem. Anything I can do to help.
I'm going to 5200 in the plumbing tonight and lay glass on the sculpted sides of the tray. Tomorrow I'll reinforce the sides of the hull in the tray area and then after that I can install the exhaust plumbing, superman handhold and then footholds. Wow...that's a bunch of work to do in a short time.
damn. sorry I asked...lol
yamaslut
03-20-2007, 03:17 PM
I'm going to 5200 in the plumbing tonight and lay glass on the sculpted sides of the tray. Tomorrow I'll reinforce the sides of the hull in the tray area and then after that I can install the exhaust plumbing, superman handhold and then footholds. Wow...that's a bunch of work to do in a short time.
get a lot of beer
get a lot of beer
:biggthumpup: :biggthumpup:
Here's a doctored photo just to show that I am progressing and it's getting really close. I've got pretty much all of the parts either here or on the way. Turf starts tonight and then I have lots of bolting and final fitting to do. The photo doesn't show the graphics scheme and it doesn't show that the paint has some color changing pearl flake. It looks pretty cool in the sun. I'll go back after I'm done and do a clean and organized writeup of the work I've done.
yamaslut
05-11-2007, 08:06 AM
Here's a doctored photo just to show that I am progressing and it's getting really close. I've got pretty much all of the parts either here or on the way. Turf starts tonight and then I have lots of bolting and final fitting to do. The photo doesn't show the graphics scheme and it doesn't show that the paint has some color changing pearl flake. It looks pretty cool in the sun. I'll go back after I'm done and do a clean and organized writeup of the work I've done.
in person it's so sweet....
this boat will definately catch the eye...
RiverRat
05-11-2007, 08:57 AM
Looking good :cool2:
FL-cracker
05-11-2007, 01:55 PM
YEa, buy far the sickest Square ever! Probably one of my favorite skis of all times!
Awsome work Garratt!
Tuttle
05-11-2007, 02:02 PM
Very nice Garrett :biggthumpup:
thanks guys. Sorry that I can't show more, but I've gotta keep a little bit in my pocket for next weekend.
YAMA CAT
05-11-2007, 03:45 PM
Awesome! I wish I was going to Altoona to see it in person.. Can't wait for some detailed pictures but I guess I can wait until after the build off.:purr: :purr: :purr: :purr: :purr:
SJBrit
05-11-2007, 04:11 PM
Looking good Garrett - can't wait to see it in person.
Congrats on the win. Amazing ski. Wish I could have seen it in person.
Shonuff
05-21-2007, 02:01 PM
It was striking.
djkorn1
06-05-2007, 10:42 PM
Dude, get some pics of this ski up here! :biggthumpup::biggthumpup:
SJ/XPBri
06-05-2007, 10:53 PM
Holy Crap :hail: You are the man Garrett! I cannot believe what you were able to do with that hull. I never saw this thread until now, my jaw hit the keyboard when I saw the "doctored" pic. Congrats on the win.
Bri
BTW- If I find another square hull to send to you, would you mind building it and sending it back?
I'll be doing the full writeup soon. I didn't take the best pictures of the finished product and I was waiting on Ronny to get his pics up. Thanks for the hull Bri. You had disappeared by the time I had everything done or I would have sent you pics. Maybe I'll start today on the writeup. I'm past due.
btw. This was an awesome experience for me, but I will never never never do it again. It is one of those things that is fun to do once, or maybe do it more than once with a team, but it is just too consuming of my time and money to do again.
cjburt
06-11-2007, 10:17 PM
Hey Garrett, as everyone else has said, your the man. Hope you don't do like I did after a simular ski boat project, I didn't want anyone to touch it or get it dirty. I couldn't never have fun worrying about it, so I sold it. Anyway, maybe I'll get to see the ski one day. Great Job!!
MADMAT
12-18-2008, 04:59 PM
Man this was a cool build.
Motorheads5
10-20-2009, 12:00 AM
It would be Cool to see you post some pic's of it finished on your build thread ??? lol
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