97 Superjet Project- its bad, don't laugh

[tom21]

bought the ski from a friend, missed picking it whole by a few weeks. Need a stock hood if anyone has one. wish I had the moneyto duplicate shonuff's build. But I will do my best to polish it up just a nice. O.K. I'm ready....tear it up.LOL

[tom21]

sorry, I suck with posting pics. it is asking to open the program with some crapapy photoediting program I have. anyone have some advice?

[tom21]

hate to say it but I can't add my pics to the gallery either. Help

[tom21]

yes, its cheesy but its the only way I could make it work. I have 7 other skis and two are standups. I have rebuilt and replaced motors. I have worked on cars for 15 years as a mechanic, so I have a little skill. I only say this to avoid the same responses of you need to junk that and......... whatever. Nothing here scares me, not even a little.just need a hood and some hardware. the other stuff will come along as I go.


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[demolition_x]

id part it out and keep the hull and find another ski...

probably be better off.

you will spend a long time trying to put that all back together and get nickle and dimed to death when you need something.

[tom21]

this is 98% here. just need a hood and the hardware. some is in the hull still. oh and a battery but I have a few of those. and motor mounts and fuel line. but thats all, nothing else. except some turf, oh and some plugs and a fuel filter, but thats it, thats all I need. nothing else. except some grips, yeah thats the ticket!

[demolition_x]

good luck.

i have bought a few projects where people took it apart and i tried to put it back together.

not knowing where stuff goes and what bolt is used where got the best of me. i ended up selling that ski.

theres more than what meets the eyes.

[FLY6584]

There is a lot of us that can't view those pics cuz we are banned from pwcyesterday. Just a heads up.

[tom21]

crap sorry again. aka kane gave me the head sup onhow to do it, heading out to workget it done later.

I have no problem with the hardware its just the gutwrenching feeling that if I had robbed a 7-11 a few weeks earlier I would only be missing the hood and it would still be in one piece.

[SuperJETT]

sorry, I suck with posting pics. it is asking to open the program with some crapapy photoediting program I have. anyone have some advice?

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Reply to a post (not quick reply or quick edit), click the Manage Attachments button, in the new window, browse to your files then click Upload, it will do the rest, it even resizes them automatically.

[Ollie Rastabean]

Here you go

[Shonuff]

theres more than what meets the eyes.


http://www.garmentdistrict.com/store/popculture/transformers/transformers-1-sm.gif

[Shonuff]

I can't wait to read your build.

:cheer:

[Shonuff]

Why does it have dual 44s?

[tom21]

saki, are you pulling my leg? cause I would be eternally grateful. more than that. I would owe you- big time. I can send some cash with some guys I know are going to sebbey.

[Ollie Rastabean]

10-4. I can bring that hood back for ya.

Kinda funny. One of sakis hoods headinv over to sebby.

One heading back.

BTW- it is yum yum yellow!!!

-O

[sjetrider]

How much $$$$$ did you give your "friend" for this boat? I just want to keep up and see if its worth it in end?

[tom21]

shonuff, I was told a lot of "things" by my friend that I got the ski from. it is supposed to have a little shaved off the head, an MSD ignition(maybe), and of course all the stuff you see. can anyone confirm if that is a B pipe? it looks much worse than it is. the motor spins. In fact, if I didn't plan on trying to clean it up, I feel confident that if I had all the hardware I would be riding it tomorrow. provided I had a hood. nothing a good scrubbing and some paint cant fix. Plus I have shonuff's build to use as a guide. I love the way you p[ainted the inside of the hull. first thing I do.

[Ollie Rastabean]

It actually look slike most of the bits are there.

You just might be missing some bolts and such.

Make sure you pull the elec box open + make sure everythting is cool. Replace that gasket while you are in there.

That thing might run out of the box.

-O

[tom21]

also thanks Ollie for moving the pics. I would prefer not to divulge the dollar amount as I had to have this ski after riding yamahahaha's a few weeks ago and seeing the HUGE difference between my stock 650 and his. I am ruined now, I need more power. so dump a ton of money on putting another motor and pipe and impeller on my 92 sj or sell it and my other 6 skis and go to town on one good freestyle ski?

[Ollie Rastabean]

also thanks Ollie for moving the pics. I would prefer not to divulge the dollar amount as I had to have this ski after riding yamahahaha's a few weeks ago and seeing the HUGE difference between my stock 650 and his. I am ruined now, I need more power. so dump a ton of money on putting another motor and pipe and impeller on my 92 sj or sell it and my other 6 skis and go to town on one good freestyle ski?

I would get that round nose on the water.

An unported 701 w b pipe _ impellor will surprise you.

PM me a cell number so I can unload this hood when I get back. I work by the St. Pete Clearwater airport.

-O

[tom21]

PM's sent. Unreal! and we need to hook up cause I have some friends that ride and we always need more riders!

yeah, the ski will happen pretty quick once I get some work done and clear a little free time.

is it not normal to have 44"s. they came with 38's, right?

[cookerq62]

Those carbs look like 44's, good deal. I started a build from pretty much scratch but never painted it. It's not that hard get a manual and your set between here and pwc archives. I would consider buying a decent used motor rather then rebuilding that one right now unless your doing pretty much thewhole thing yourself. Was there a prop in that pump??

[tom21]

I feel like I keep saying this, this was a runnig ski almost yesterday, it was disassembled, the hood is sold, some of the hardware is still in the hull, yes some of it is nasty to look at, but if I had a hood and the missing hardaware I could and am capable of putting this together- TONITE and be riding tomorrow. the motor spins free. yes it is crusty. now someone please be funny and make fun of the bubbly turf or say," wow that is one clean ski!" or even better, with a stock 701 and this pipe/carb setup how well will this thing run? what rideplate will be best with this for freestyle? Impeller? toploader? any one have some of this stuff they want to sell? does anyone want to try out the awesome Cobrajet steering:bigeyes: ?(sorry Jeff, its gotta go, yes I will ride it once, no it will not stay on even if it works great. It will just get broken when I beach or load it on the trailer)

I am not a newbie to skis or repairs. I am far from being the best but I am sure I am capable. Sincerely I am greatful for the advice, just bring it up a notch from beginner to novice. Please.

I am so eager for that kind of stuff so please make fun of my ski, have fun with me....cause it won't be too long and I will start making imrovements. lets have some fun with it for now. there are so many funny people on here, lets go already. I am stoked, I have my dream project:arms: lets get it on!

[sjetrider]

I am sure it will be awesome once done, I just wanted to kinda follow a build up including pricing, just to see how mine compares and how it compares to modding a fairly new boat in good condition. I will follow the build post and maybe be of some help along the way, now lets get this boat to rehab.

[tom21]

I'll try to help a little if I can. What would you think my 97 is worth if it was a running ski with what it has minus the hood? it has the stock impeller. I think you can see the rest in the pics.

[EvanB85]

http://www.livwell.com/richard_s.jpg

He thinks that turf looks a little fruity.

[FLY6584]

Hey Tom you could always send that motor into SBT and get a refurbed one and you'll be on the water next week!!!! Talk to Bryan down at SBT. I'm sure he'll hook you up. :smashfreakB::lightning:

:haha: :haha: :haha:


Oh by the way sorry we never got together and did some riding. The end of the summer got really busy for me.

I guess after you rode my round you just had to have one?:biggthumpup:

[oxnard111]

Build it, good luck, and atleast you got a B

[Shonuff]

It's got a B-Pipe and 44s, I wouldn't be surprised if it had other hidden goodies.

[tom21]

fly - why so blue? its Florida, season is never over for us. I have a new full body wetsuit that I have never worn. Plus isn't it a little more choppy in the winter? we can still ride. I will anyway. its a good dare I guess. call me at Christmas that will be fun. LOL.

yes thank you for the ride on your ski, I didn't mean to leave you out. but I have ridden something with some goodies under the hood and now I have to have more. here's the link

http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=7310

[FLY6584]

fly - why so blue? its Florida, season is never over for us. I have a new full body wetsuit that I have never worn. Plus isn't it a little more choppy in the winter? we can still ride. I will anyway. its a good dare I guess. call me at Christmas that will be fun. LOL.

yes thank you for the ride on your ski, I didn't mean to leave you out. but I have ridden something with some goodies under the hood and now I have to have more. here's the link

http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=7310

No worries.

Yeah I can't wait for Christmas Break. I'm hoping we'll get some waves from a front. We will see. If we get some storms coming by soon then I'll def make a drive down to do some riding with you guys at Dunedin.

Good luck with the build.

[tom21]

you got my number -use it! or Pm your # and I'll call you when I /we ride. Plus I can hook you up with those guys in the event I can't go.

[tom21]

evan- its a special kind it has some river rock pebbles in it for added traction.

[Idok]

no cash.. free hood.. just sand, fill in scratches, prime, and paint.

that's just how we do it down here.


D F T M F C

Tom, E's right....thats just the way we do it in region 7, just remmber the karma and show the love when you can...



I swear, I give aways 5x more parts than I sell....


saki's not totally without gain...getting rid of hood = more space in garage!

[surferdude345]

That looks like a fun project, the only thing you might have trouble with are bolts. Otherwise get that thing together, and get on the water

[T-bone]

im hoping your useing the term "bought" very loosely.

[Big Kahuna]

be sure to get the motor aligned properly........

[tom21]

yes I am trying to accept graciously. But I would like to buy my new friends some beer! :Banane35: :friday: :puke:

[tom21]

what alignment? this thing is just like a front wheel drive Chrysler ain't it? you just put the thingamajig in the whatchamacallit with the doohickey, right?

I got the tuning specs already too.

Seefalations + Meffalations = Eefalations.

No prob.:haha:

[tom21]

okay, update, clean and polish hull in and out. no paint inside yet. that and foot holds when the motor pukes. for now I just want to ride it. so Riva is sending me boxes and boxes its like Christmas over here. almost spent as much on hardware and such as I did for the boat. to be fair I did buy Kenny Keepers, a grate, mounts, hood hooks, bilge kit bracket and switch, chin pad the part that covers the bars( plastic no padding at all WTF?) couple hundred on nuts and bolts and screws( 1200 for everything to put it back together) pricey but like I said I did get a few high dollar items and yes I could have scrounged around at the junkyard for most of the hardware and saved some money but its fresh and the right size not mismatched junk.

sanded down the metal on the pole with a d/a and painted, tried to polish the waterbox and pipe, but they are really pitted and didn't get as nice as I hoped. the pipe is the worst. might have to weld some spots and seal it with epoxy and paint it.

so all that is left is paint the motor and put it in and the pump install. its pretty close. sold my 92 SJ and almost have 3 or 4 other skis sold. trying to get some of them in shape for sale has slowed the rebuild a bit but maybe tonite I will knock the rest out.

can't get pics to upload will try later.

[Shonuff]

Is it too late to tell you where to get OEM parts significantly cheaper than RIVA?

http://shop.dgy.com/pages/parts/home.aspx

[tom21]

its never too late, and now others know too, I'll let you know the diff in price on a few things I got.

[WAB]

It amazing what a little love can do to a hull. :) Nice work so far!

did you 5200 the bearing carrier to the bulkhead?? :ugh:

[tom21]

shonuff, thanks, that is a big diff in price.

[tom21]

wab, white silicone, Why should it be? it felt like a flexible silicone sealant so that is what I put back. I used 5200 under the rubber tank pads,why would you take those out? I mean what possible reason would you tear them out? a lot of the stuff i had to get was that kind of stupid stuff, but I am pretty thorough with having all the parts that should be there.

[FLY6584]

Is it too late to tell you where to get OEM parts significantly cheaper than RIVA?

http://shop.dgy.com/pages/parts/home.aspx

Would that be Parker Yamaha?:sneaky:

[waxhead]

What an awesome project
looks like you have all the stuff there and its cleaned up well as well

[tom21]

Update..Friday I got it all back together. The ski must have been sitting with water in it for a while, cause the carbs had some water in them and there was a small bit of corrosion on the top of one of the throttle plates that put some small pits in the throat of the carb. the very hour after I got tired of waiting for the last couple of bolts for the ride plate and starter and had found some close replacements, the UPS guy shows up. So off with the makeshift bolts and on with the new correct stuff. battery, fuel tank and fuel, wire up the bilge wrong- Crap! rewire the bilge andhit the button! nada. check the plug connection and wammo! but it is not right. pull the plugs and they are wet! Shiot!!!!!! I did try to tip the motor over when I bought it and see if there was water in there but did not get any, so I hoped I was ok. but no. so now I am cranking and plug changing and its 10 pm. finally starts on one cyl. so swap out and try to clear the other. got it to fire. So now I load it up and take it to the shop- away from my house and neighbors. and get er running. a little carb tweaking and now she runs. I tried to make my own makeshift flush kit to go in the pisser and backflush but it is just to hard to hold it there. much easier with the flush kit so I will put that in later.fog the engine real good to give it a little protection til I can ride. Pesky job always getting in the way of my ski time! will get some pics soon, and maybe some on the water, it will either live or be time to build a budget 760 and do the footholds.

[WaveDemon]

how did I miss this thread? Tom I ride most sundays out at dunedin. let me know when you want to hook up.

[tom21]

I want to ski all the time but I have a ton of work. Scott and Derek are always trying to get me to go but I am just slammed right now. Maybe I can bust arse this week and buy some ride time. Will try for this sunday and I will let those guys know. Scott may not have his ski ready by then. Unless he wants to ride my old kawi. LOL. Hey, how is the busted lip/ nose healing? MMMM salty water on scabs! You know it will make a really nice scar if you rip it open before it heals.

[tom21]

saki you nut! ya got any blasters or Sjs complete up there? Derek is looking for a cheap ski for his girl, I think.

[WaveDemon]

my nose and lip feel pretty good, the scabs are small now.

Where do scott and derek ride? I only rode with them at Sebbastion that one time.

[WaveDemon]

actually! if someone wants a blaster, i have one i could part with.. needs some love, but its all there, it runs, and its a blaster.. i just can't get into them no matter how hard i try.. i guess its different borrowing one every 6 months for 15 minutes in the surf (which is fun as hell).. but then when you own one.. its like 'meh'.. :sneaky:

http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4660&d=1145141288

which derek are you talking aout? the derek i'm thinking of? bogies friend?I don't know if he knows bogie. his name is I met superjet here and I think he's D-rok on pwctoday. he rode a white SJ with stock graphics at sebby and his buddy scott was on an sxr, I think he borrowed an allen from you to try and tune his new B pipe

[tom21]

we usually ride at Bellair cause it is close, but they go to dunedin when the storms come. I guess I do now as well. Where are the hurricanes anyway?

Saki, Scott and Dered were at Sebby, Scott has the SXR and Derek has the Roundie with the stock white hull with black and red outlined graphics. They are BIg toe and I met a superjet on here.

[WaveDemon]

ok, no then, i was thinking of FLSuperjet , the guy royal flush bought his 5mil/lightweight wammer boat off of. he's out last I heard. I think he's playing in the dirt now.

[WaveDemon]

we usually ride at Bellair cause it is close, but they go to dunedin when the storms come. I guess I do now as well. Where are the hurricanes anyway?

Saki, Scott and Dered were at Sebby, Scott has the SXR and Derek has the Roundie with the stock white hull with black and red outlined graphics. They are BIg toe and I met a superjet on here.


well it's time to knock that off! Ollie comes up from St. pete and I come down from NPR. Dunedin is were it's at. When winter comes we will get our winter swells and dunedin will be that much nicer.

[tom21]

well, boys I'm off to work. I will try to get it together and ride this weekend let ya know later in the week. If not, Derek is dying to ride so I will pass it on. later

[tom21]

WD I got my shortie and full suit so lets play! bring on the waves! so long as this motor doesn't rust up on me I am ready( with a brief intermission to tune the carbs completely):woot:

[i met a superjet]

damn, i didnt know all this chit chat was going on in here tom.... sorry im blind. Props to tom. You do know your stuff man! So, I just read most of this thread..... and yes im looking for a blaster for my GF.. I was looking at that one in sarasota with the riva red pipe etc. he wants alot but it is nice.

Hey edwin. How much will you let your blaster go for? Is this the one that left you dead in the water and you were floating down sebastion inlet on, until i helped you hold it while you got it started?

Hey tim... if you wanna ride you gotta PM me man!. I have my ski on the lift on north clearwater beach. But soon to have a blaster also. Dont trade it! unless you have another blaster?

Tom, Hey im gonna try to work something out where us local guys can all get together down here and cook out on clearwater beach once you get your ski up and going cuz i have plenty of parking and there is a small boat ramp here.... and we should all ride out to the spoil island or head out from sand key bridge and ride around the jetti.

[WaveDemon]

hey derek, that all sounds good. I want to ride with all the local people.

we ride with about 5 people and I aways post when I/we ride on the tampa duck pond of mexico thread. PM's would take to long.

[tom21]

yeah we were just hanging out and shooting the breeze.....where you been? You need to PM me your # so I can bother you LOL. I have to keep sending the stuff to Scott to forward to you. is that the same blaster I emailed to him that you were looking at?

Sounds great! I need to get this thing to the water ASAP so I can see if its gonna live or what. Almost done with the one unit. now I have a total rennovation left to do on another. But maybe if I can get a good start I can break away for Sunday to ride with you and Tim. You gonna go Sunday?

Almost figured on going tonite but I have to deliver a weight bench and order some cabinets from H.D. all work and no play.....

[sjetrider]

Wheres pics of completed boat Tom21 did I miss them here?

[tom21]

I will be taking them tonite and I will post them, probably around 9 or 10 ish. don't get too excited, its not much more than a cleaned and assembled version of the before pics. maybe I can start it and get some action shots of the two stroke smoke filling the shop LOL.

[FLY6584]

damn, i didnt know all this chit chat was going on in here tom.... sorry im blind. Props to tom. You do know your stuff man! So, I just read most of this thread..... and yes im looking for a blaster for my GF.. I was looking at that one in sarasota with the riva red pipe etc. he wants alot but it is nice.

Hey edwin. How much will you let your blaster go for? Is this the one that left you dead in the water and you were floating down sebastion inlet on, until i helped you hold it while you got it started?

Hey tim... if you wanna ride you gotta PM me man!. I have my ski on the lift on north clearwater beach. But soon to have a blaster also. Dont trade it! unless you have another blaster?

Tom, Hey im gonna try to work something out where us local guys can all get together down here and cook out on clearwater beach once you get your ski up and going cuz i have plenty of parking and there is a small boat ramp here.... and we should all ride out to the spoil island or head out from sand key bridge and ride around the jetti.

Hey man where did you go to high school? I grew up in Clearwater and go home all the time. Where on Clearwater Beach intercoastal do you live? We used to live on Island Estates, but we moved down to Indian Rocks.

[tom21]

here they are, tried to get all the little parts in there but they aren't that visible. most of you guys don't miss a trick. As I said before, this is just to keep my jones at bay til I can go bigger on the motor and then the turf and inside of the hull will get the full treatment, maybe paint the outside too.

[tom21]

more...and yes saki I did nothing but install the hardware on the hood...I want to ride.

[tom21]

what outta Corona already, saki?

[tom21]

Yeah I know but I also put a 99 1100stx on there. Its my all purpose trailer. I use it to get other skis to the shop.

[tom21]

well its really reverse Psychology, if I work at you long enough maybe you will pay me to take your awesome parts off your hands. :haha:

[tom21]

Wow! that one is nice! and it will match better. LOL A hood is a hood, as long as it covers the motor its what I need. this one will be painted- someday. Or maybe I will paint the ski to match the hood.

[tom21]

he he he and then the trailer gets painted with the leftover paint:biggthumpup:

[tom21]

yep it was good to be on a ski again! two weeks ago I went out on my 650sx to sell it and the bearing carrier popped and sank the ski. Good timing, right?

Well this SJ has definitely got more brap than stock. I think I am a tad on the fat side. And the only issue with it is that when it tips over on the left side when I fall it stalls quick? water from the exhaust? one or two of the screws on the pipe are not stock. seems to be running the right temp. maybe just a tad too cool, need some tune time. time for some BK Screws.:biggrin:

the cobra jet steering does nothing that I can feel, and compared to Dereks ski mine is not nearly as comfortable to ride. The cutout on the stock ride plate needs to be enlarged or maybe Derek will let me swap out the extended ride plate and see if that makes it better. I had a heck of a time staying on it. Stock grips suck!

It was about what I hoped it would be. maybe some adjustments and a ride plate or impeller and it will be almost what Dereks ride is. Not sure if the dry pipe he is runnin will always give him more Brap than me. But then I can fix that with a bump up to a 760 and some porting right?:fingersx:

Pardon the amatuer pics, I had a couple of nice jumps on some nice big boat wakes. Dunedin sure has some big suckers come thru there! None of which are on film. also notice how all the pics are thousandths of seconds after the trick is over!

[tom21]

And here is a very nice pancake! oh yeah!

I got a couple of subs but nothing good, and one where the ski went right in and then hooked straight down and I went flying forward in the water.

enjoy! please fell free to let em rip. I can take it. first day on the new boat, I wasn't expecting it to be pretty.

[WaveDemon]

congrats on getting it together and running. looks good, are you going to put ODI grips on it?

[tom21]

I just bought some aftermarket grips but they were the wrong ones and I was not impressed with how they clamped on the ends. so I just got stockers.

[tom21]

Hey, just a thought.....I am pretty sure there was some water sitting in the hull for long enough to leave some signs it was in there. I bet my ski handles like crap because it is waterlogged! looks like I have a defoam and footholds in my near future.

anyone confirm this? anyway to tell for sure? anyway to dry it out?

[WaveDemon]

you can drill a hole in the hull. if water comes out then you are water logged. fill that hole with thickened epoxy.

I've read that water logged ski's handle better because there is more weight low in the hull.

[tom21]

well so much for that theory. guess the ride plate will be next on the change modify list. that worx intake grate is just awesome!

[WaveDemon]

hey, why does it look like your taking a dump in that pic!



legs straight!

[djkorn1]

killer thread. Congratulations on the ski!!!
:cool2:

[FL-cracker]

Have fun old man.

[tom21]

that was a bad attempt at a sub. Landed flat POW! :Banane01: I could have left it out but what fun would that be? that is the best you girls got? I am a sarcastic SOB, surely you can make better jokes than that. If you(my X-friends, sounds like a superhereo group LOL) ( The X-Friends:headbang: spreading build and ride tips and hooking up newbies with freerides) can't do a better job of getting a laugh from my sucky pics and skills I may just have to do it myself. and that would be more pathetic than my pancake pic.

[tom21]

demon and saki, are you guys saying to take a dump with my legs straight? O.K. that sounds crazy but I'll try it.



























Nope ....doesn't work too well. Pretty messy actually.:bigeyes:

[WaveDemon]

demon and saki, are you guys saying to take a dump with my legs straight? O.K. that sounds crazy but I'll try it.



























Nope ....doesn't work too well. Pretty messy actually.:bigeyes:

that brings back bad memorys of potty training. My advice, teach your boy to pee sitting down first. :scared:

[WaveDemon]

any updates? hows the footholds and turf looking?

[tom21]

like you don't know....but hey thanks that is a good idea to finish it up. I will be done turfing in a few days and I will trow up the install pics of the footholds, the few that I have and then the turf. I may even do Dereks buildup or get him to. just painted the bottom tonite. so obviously mine is still waiting for some love.