1989 X2 is it worth it. now with PICS

[s13bdafock]

i have a chance to buy a 1989 650 x2 for 400$ needs minor work like turf and some new gas lines. and the bar knuckle is a lil loose..

the guy told me it ran 2 years ago when he put it away .

please let me know ..

[Vumad]

I wouldn't pay $400 for a 650 X2 that wasn't running, especially something stock.

[s13bdafock]

I wouldn't pay $400 for a 650 X2 that wasn't running, especially something stock.


what would you pay .

i can post pics of it tomorrow if that will help .

[Maxumflux]

$100 if it was clean

EDIT: you have to hope for the best but prepare for the worst. if you cant get an even compression then don't bother messing with it unless your gettting it super cheap; less than a hundy.

[Vumad]

There's no such thing as "Not running and needs minor work", especially something that is over 20 years old and was designed to be used in salt water.

$100, maybe $200 if you're in an area where X2's are impossible to find. In FL we have running X2's for sale for $300 quite often. Agua just picked up a "it ran last time I used it" X2 for $100 in our area.

[s13bdafock]

well so far the only info i have is it has a fresh motor - new steering cable and a new impeller. and there is a lil bs about the title . ..


also in AZ x2's are hard to find and everytime i find one fore sale they are asking 600-800 for them .




thanks for the help ..

[Twinturbostang]

I for one stay away from the 89s because they are direct steer on most of them. If it's direct steer it isn't worth $1 if it's a cage style $400 isn't bad if they are as hard to find as they are up here.

[s13bdafock]

I for one stay away from the 89s because they are direct steer on most of them. If it's direct steer it isn't worth $1 if it's a cage style $400 isn't bad if they are as hard to find as they are up here.



explain please ...

how can i see if its cage style


i might take my bump box down there and some gas to see if i can get this thing started .. the guy swears it ran when he put it away . but from the 550 we just bought from him who knows .

[Twinturbostang]

Direct steer runs a big long cable out that bends. This one it the pic is covered to help it from bending but you get the idea of the 2.

[s13bdafock]

it dont have the cage like that... its just a cable going to a steering arm . will take pics of it ,,,

[Twinturbostang]

Ya so you have the one in the left of the pic

[s13bdafock]

i went and took some pics ....


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3401/3607409681_9613f3372e.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3318/3607409223_35e8453212.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3356/3607408629_4a0657b8fe.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2433/3607408333_939affef5d.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3607408951_aaac979fdd.jpg?v=0

[shawn_NJ]

Thats direct alright. I'd keep looking. Or offer $150 (actually if its not running $50). The flimsy steering is a complete nightmare if you start putting any power in the ski. I have lots of direct steering experience (my lightweight uses it) and I am on cable #3 in one year. All of these were reinforced.

[s13bdafock]

Thats direct alright. I'd keep looking. Or offer $150 (actually if its not running $50). The flimsy steering is a complete nightmare if you start putting any power in the ski. I have lots of direct steering experience (my lightweight uses it) and I am on cable #3 in one year. All of these were reinforced.


im going to offer the $150 but i know he is going to shoot it down . he was trying to sell it for $500 and we got him to $400. im not wanting to pay $400 for something thats only worth $150 or less ... i might just look for a 650 stand up . i like the x2 because its a 650 and im 215lbs and need the extra motor.

[madscientist]

if it comes on that nifty trailer, maybe

i like the anti theft bar on the rear

[SkiNaked]

The trailer is worth 400. So if it comes with the trailer it may be worth it for you.

[s13bdafock]

The trailer is worth 400. So if it comes with the trailer it may be worth it for you.


the guy wants $400 for the trailer and $400 for the x2 .... he wont come down any on the x2 ....



i tild him that its only worth maybe 200 at the most and he still wont come down .. he's like its a 650 and i know what there worth .. i had cash in hand and still wont even come down ..

plus it looks like someone messed with the fule lines ..

[SkiNaked]

Offer him 400 for the X2 and then low ball him on the trailer with an offer of 2 bucks on a package deal. :-0

[SkiNaked]

Pass. Look for a SN superjet.

[tor*p*do]

Pass. Look for a SN superjet.

X2, wait, no I mean SN also!!! :biggrin:

[professor961]

It's a direct steer X2. It is worth NOTHING - expect for parts.
Keep shopping. If you want an X2 buy anything except the 88 and 89.
They are slugs - indeed guys have them and have modified them to turn, but nowhere near responsive like the squirrel cage steering.
Tell the guy to keep his ski and KEEP SHOPPING.
Prof

[s13bdafock]

It's a direct steer X2. It is worth NOTHING - expect for parts.
Keep shopping. If you want an X2 buy anything except the 88 and 89.
They are slugs - indeed guys have them and have modified them to turn, but nowhere near responsive like the squirrel cage steering.
Tell the guy to keep his ski and KEEP SHOPPING.
Prof




thank you all for your help .. i will be buying a x2 i got 600 for one and hoping this will be good enough for the ski and some parts.. will continue to look for a X2 ... something about them makes me horny ...

[msthcleen28]

i have 3 and i bought my first one a month ago.. theyre addicting man. if i could find the title to my 91 id sell it, but it dissappeared when i moved..

theyre fun little toys man.

[s13bdafock]

i have 3 and i bought my first one a month ago.. theyre addicting man. if i could find the title to my 91 id sell it, but it dissappeared when i moved..

theyre fun little toys man.


if you file for lost title i will be more then glad to take a drive and buy it ...



i want a x2 so bad i had one about 5 years ago but it was stolen off my dock.. now i want another one its river time and i dont have a ski.

[s13bdafock]

i got him down to $300 still worth it ..

[sflsurfrider]

you guys and your, 'direct steering is worth nothing', regurgitation is kinda funny.

i wonder how many of you have actually ridden a squirrellcageless x2. i have. theres nothing wrong with them if you know how to beef up a cable and can do a couple quicksteer mods.... just like you would on the earlier models.

puh-lease!

[s13bdafock]

you guys and your, 'direct steering is worth nothing', regurgitation is kinda funny.

i wonder how many of you have actually ridden a squirrellcageless x2. i have. theres nothing wrong with them if you know how to beef up a cable and can do a couple quicksteer mods.... just like you would on the earlier models.

puh-lease!


well i live on the colorado river and im not looking for a wave jumper ... just a cruiser... i want to do some motor work .. maybe a pipe - ride plate - chop - tube - and some odds and ends ...

[shawn_NJ]

you guys and your, 'direct steering is worth nothing', regurgitation is kinda funny.

i wonder how many of you have actually ridden a squirrellcageless x2. i have. theres nothing wrong with them if you know how to beef up a cable and can do a couple quicksteer mods.... just like you would on the earlier models.

puh-lease!

While I totally agree that you can make the direct turn REALLY good... two of my 4 X2s are direct and I really do hate them. the problem starts when you throw in a piped, high compression 750/701 motor OR TRIM SYSTEM. The cables just start bending...fast. You cannot easily FULLY reinforce the cable, because it need 4" of play for movement. Even with just 4" of the cable unprotected I have had 2 of them bend right there. The other way I had 2 more cables die was from trim. A trim system will KILL a brand new direct steer cable in just 2-3rides, no problem. And if you have recently tried to find a replacement cable on the USED market...you will know why I "steer" ppl away from 89's. WSM does not make a direct steering cable. Couple that with the fact that Kawi termineted the OEM part number for cable replacements...you are pretty screwed if you have one fail. I ordered 5 OEM direct steer cables from kawi, they could only ship the last (1) they had in there parts stock. An 89 is just not a good building block for a hull that you plan on putting time into (tubbies,shortening,ect), simply due to the lack of a replacement steering cables.

Now with that said, if you dont plan on putting alot of work into the hull and leaving it a 650 with mild mods....then s**t... $300 for a ski is cheap.

[s13bdafock]

shawn thank you for the insite .... i will not be buying this x2 ... it the direct steering is that big of a deal then im out ... im on the hunt for a 91 - 94 .. i hope i can get a good x2 for $500 ..


thank you shawn