AVOID seller booomdoger on ebay a.k.a dirkdiggler

[thomasracing]

Thought you guys on the X needed to read this thread on pwctoday it has become a huge topic recently. Its about dirkdiggler and his questionable ebay tactics (canceling auctions and not shipping products won by ebay users).

http://pwctoday.com/f23/avoid-ebay-seller-booomdoger-213523.html

[dirkdiggler]

Keep in mind that I refund all money sent too me!

BASH me all you want.......but I don't steal peoples money. You guys are making me out to be a crook that takes money and doesn't ship parts

Between Paypal and ebay "final value fee's" and insertion fees, reserve prices etc.......ebay will take over 10% of anything I sell. Sue me for trying to avoid that!!

Moral of the story is that I need to get a certain price for parts.......whats not to understand??

You dont like the prices....Dont buy......but people saying that they will not buy stuff off of me due to this thread.....that's ridiculous!

Like I said, sue me for trying to keep money out of eBays pocket!

[ger87410]

Diggler swore up and down on that PWCyesteryear thread that he's changed his ways and items listed w/o a minimum or a reserve will be sold for whatever the auction ends at.

We'll see. So far he's blatantly breaking ebay's selling rules and trying to circumvent the fees.

I'll let you guys know in 5 days if he holds true to his word.

I don't think he knows that when he cancels an item that people have bid on (or are watching) and then relists it, the people who bid on it get an email saying a similar item has been listed by that seller.

[klze]

got some parts from him outside ebay, sounds like a great guy to deal with!
prices are not the best around, but selection is good.

will report when I actually receive my parcel in the mail...

[Mark44]

Keep in mind that I refund all money sent too me!

BASH me all you want.......but I don't steal peoples money. You guys are making me out to be a crook that takes money and doesn't ship parts

Between Paypal and ebay "final value fee's" and insertion fees, reserve prices etc.......ebay will take over 10% of anything I sell. Sue me for trying to avoid that!!

Moral of the story is that I need to get a certain price for parts.......whats not to understand??

You dont like the prices....Dont buy......but people saying that they will not buy stuff off of me due to this thread.....that's ridiculous!

Like I said, sue me for trying to keep money out of eBays pocket!

Then don't sell on eBay its that easy!:smashfreakB:

Mark44

[snowxr]

If you are going to use ebay, just pay the fees. That's the deal when you sell there, so man up and pay up. As for items not selling for what you want, smarten up. Set a reserve, or use "buy it now" if you are dead set on getting everything you want out of each part. I've been watching a lot of your stuff get listed and ended over and over. Just sell the stuff and move on.

[redsxr800]

i`m just wondering what you would say if you bid on something won it , then let the next part on ebay sell. then later find out the part you won you cant have and the other one is gone. now so your stuck because time is running low, so your stuck buying new.

[GDFL]

The thing that bothers me the most is how you don't think you're really doing anything wrong. You're business ethics are in the toilet. Those auctions are contracts and you are willingly breaking them. Use the system the way it is supposed to be used. If you don't like it, then don't use it. I could never buy anything from you.

[AtomicPunk]

^^^^ x2
I looked and even inquired about some of his stuff, but when I found out how he "operates" I decided to stay clear. I am sure there are others too...

Dirk, it's not too late to salvage your rep... just do business they way people on here and ebay expect you to. If not, then I don't see you doing much "business".

[butti]

Keep in mind that I refund all money sent too me!

BASH me all you want.......but I don't steal peoples money. You guys are making me out to be a crook that takes money and doesn't ship parts

Between Paypal and ebay "final value fee's" and insertion fees, reserve prices etc.......ebay will take over 10% of anything I sell. Sue me for trying to avoid that!!

Moral of the story is that I need to get a certain price for parts.......whats not to understand??

You dont like the prices....Dont buy......but people saying that they will not buy stuff off of me due to this thread.....that's ridiculous!

Like I said, sue me for trying to keep money out of eBays pocket!




if you have a bottom dollar then start the auction there.refunding the winners money and relisting the part does NOT make you an honest guy.if you are just gonna renege at the end then DONT use the auction system.i will never atemt to buy anything from you because this thread has made me aware of your attitude,theres NOTHING ridiculous about that.

[MADMAT]

Dude seriously just start your bid at the minimum you will take. Problem solved, correct?

Am I missing something?

[chrisdoc0608]

dirk, you never cease to amaze me... .do you honestly think that there is nothing wrong with what you are doing? I wonder what ebay reps would think if they read all of this :-):-):-):-). I agree with Butti, set your starting bid at what your "bottom dollar" price is and avoid the fees that you are so eager not to pay.

[Jawbreaker]

The thing that bothers me the most is how you don't think you're really doing anything wrong. You're business ethics are in the toilet. Those auctions are contracts and you are willingly breaking them. Use the system the way it is supposed to be used. If you don't like it, then don't use it. I could never buy anything from you.


X2 Couldn't have said it better myself...

He's doggin people on pwc for bidding the last few min's of an ebay auction.... That's just being a smart consumer not driving up the bids...

....he apparently has a moronic point of view.

[dirkdiggler]

Like I said 10+ times.....from now on if an auction ENDS I will go thru with the deal.

Some parts of mine sell before the auction ends so I have no choice to end auctions early if there is more than 12 hours left in the auction.....I apologize but my stuff if for sale many other places besides eBay.

Im not "doggin" people for bidding at the last minute but I am using that as an example for people that are complaining about watching a part of mine they need for 6 days and then not getting it becasue I ended the auction early........Its an AUCTION.....your not gaurenteed to get it anyways due to the possibility of someone else outbidding you!

Regarless of what some may think, I have never stole money from anyone....EVER!!

[ger87410]

Noone is accusing you, Diggler, of stealing money. Just shady practices.

I noticed in all of your ebay listings that it does not say the item is for sale locally, or anywhere else but ebay.

The whole point is it IS an auction and needs to be treated as such. When a bid is placed, both parties fall under a contractual obligation. Atleast with ebay. I think you may want to learn just how auctions are suppose to work: http://www.doityourself.com/stry/auctions1 . I think ebay's got a whole section devoted to teaching how auctions work.

There's only a limited number of people looking for ski parts. When you screw them over they'll learn not to come back.

I don't think people's biggest problem is with you canceling the auction early saying you sold locally. (This excuse doesn't even work very well when you relist the same item within 24 hours.....) I think most people's problem's that your not setting a minimum bid and when the auction ends for less then you wanted it to, you refund and relist. I won't even touch where you sold an item out from underneath someone to their friend for more green.....

[OCD Solutions]

I will never advertise an item in two places. I will throw things up on this site to help my fellow members first and then if it doesn't sell I list it on ebay. If a member contacts me after it is listed on ebay, I direct them to the auction site and wish them good luck. Fair play is fair play. I may not always like the prices i get but it is what it is.

I also don't PM fellow members and low ball them on everything they list. I will make an offer to feel them out but I'm not usually as obnoxious as you are. You sent me two PM's with offers of less than half of what I clearly stated that I had paid for things and needed to see to get out of them. That is why I won't buy from you or sell to you for that matter.

You just come across abrasive and I will not support that.

[butti]

Like I said 10+ times.....from now on if an auction ENDS I will go thru with the deal.

Some parts of mine sell before the auction ends so I have no choice to end auctions early if there is more than 12 hours left in the auction.....I apologize but my stuff if for sale many other places besides eBay.

Im not "doggin" people for bidding at the last minute but I am using that as an example for people that are complaining about watching a part of mine they need for 6 days and then not getting it becasue I ended the auction early........Its an AUCTION.....your not gaurenteed to get it anyways due to the possibility of someone else outbidding you!

Regarless of what some may think, I have never stole money from anyone....EVER!!



you dont even know what the word auction means.so what,now your gonna start ending your auctions sooner? uour totally missing the point here.once i put something on ebay thats it,i sell on ebay unless there are no bids.thats the only way i will end an auction early to sell the item elsewhere.

[dirkdiggler]

I apologized for it.....my intention wasn't to screw people over but rather try and get my stuff on ebay for the lowest possible insertion price.

I understand what I did was wrong but I am just trying to justify my methodoligy and appologizing. the guy sent the money to me before I even sent him an invoice.....nothing wrong with that....hes a stand-up buyer.

its not like I sent the invoice to him....accepted his money and then sent it back too him.

People are making it sound like I do this all the time or something.

FYI........The Dual 38 carbs and complete 760 motor I have on ebay sold today..........so those auctions will be ended soon....just an example.

[dirkdiggler]

Regarding the selling out from underneath people comment......I have only offered to do that when I am still waiting on payment from the initial person that said they wanted it. Many times people say they want something, say they will pay that day and then either change there mind or do not pay for a couple days. I have only offered to do that 3 times.........its not a bad idea to have back-up buyers if the initial "for sure" turns into a "cant afford" "found one cheaper" etc........

[ger87410]

*UPDATE*

I've been keeping a close eye on the auctions he's had up.

He had 7 auctions that where set to end today. All of them around the same time.
220382247020
320352346223
220382246307
220382246226
320352346136
320352346686
220382247271

All of the items had bids on them. The pipe was up to over $300 before he cancelled the auction. His 'wanting' price was $600. The engine, I think, had close to $200 on it. Well below his 'wanting' price.

All but 3 of the auctions were cancelled when there was around 12 left. The bendix auction I suspect he didn't get to in time.

That's my observations. Take from it what you will.

Sounds to me like he's up to his old games.

They all sold locally, right?

[dirkdiggler]

Like I said on PWCToday.com......I said I was going to end the current auctions I had early becasue none had reserves on them.

Going forward, I will complete the transaction on any ebay item that ends with bids!!!

Some of the parts also sold over the past couple days..........please dont tell me you guys are going to crap on me for selling parts before the auction ends(12 hours or more).......they are for sale outside of ebay, as many of you already know!

[ger87410]

Diggler..... Come on!

All of the auctions had bids on them and NONE had reserve listings. ALL of the auctions started out at $1.

Follow ebay rules or get hell for not following them.

An excerpt from ebay's rules:

It is acceptable for sellers to end a listing early in order to sell an item at the current bid price to the high bidder. Bidders are permitted to contact sellers with requests to end a listing early and sell at the current bid price; however, sellers are under no obligation to honor the request.

Of course, you did NOTHING similar to that.

Please visit this (http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html) page to help you better understand where you went wrong. http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html

Another excerpt:

If there are 12 hours or less before the end of the listing, your ability to end the listing early depends on whether there are any bids on the item and whether the item has a reserve price.

Number of bids on the item | Can the listing be ended early?

No bids | Yes

One or more bids | Yes, but you must sell the item to the high bidder.

One or more bids, but the item’s reserve price wasn’t met| No
All the auctions had atleast 2 Bids on them. 1 of the auctions you ended early had 7 bids on it when I looked 24 hours before it was suppose to end. NONE of the auctions had reserve bids. 1 of the auctions (motor) had a buy it now.

I'm finished here. You're not going to change. You looked like a pretty cool chap from your pics, but your ethics have issues.

[dirkdiggler]

When I started getting crap from everyone, all the auctions I ended yesterday where already up......I stated to everyone on PWCToday.com that I will be ending the current auctions I have up becasue none of them did have reserves.

Like I promised, Going forward I will go through with the transaction on any Item of mine that ENDS......to avoid this type of diggler bashing I have been experiencing as of late!

Ebay does give you the right to end an auction if there is more than 12 hours left in it.....thats ebays policy, not mine............Parts are for sale everywhere I can think of so parts can and do sell before auction ends.

Just trying to understand how ending my auctions yesterday is un-ehtical??

The options i chose through ebay for ending where:

"The item is no longer for sale"
or
"there was a problem with the reserve or starting price"

Both reasons where the real reason why I ended..........so for everyone to insinuate that I am a scum bag/un-ethical.....is ridiculous.

I could totally understand all this bashing on me if I was taking peoples money and not shipping a part out.....but the issue is much less severe!

My only suggestion if you desire anyhting from me is to contact me directly.....My price may not be the best around but you can rest easy knowing your part will arrive in 2-9 business days.

Keep the bashing going but I am done talking about this issue!!

Smell ya Later guys/girls!

[tom21]

clearly you don't see why this is annoying. Are you trying to sell an item? yes! either list it elsewhere or list it on ebay. with multiple listings everywhere you are of course increasing the odds of selling and even getting your price. the issue here is how to run a business. a smart business man can meet his customers needs/wants and still satisfy his own. you are obviously covering your needs but not theirs. by listing an item on ebay - it is understood you want to sell an item. its expected you will do just that, bids are made, most are waiting to the end to try and win at the lowest they can. NO ONE EXPECTS YOU TO PULL THE AUCTION!!!!!!! if you put on the listing that you would not sell if the amount you desire is not met- guess what nobody would bid. so by trying to work around the fees you are changing the way the auction works and creating a problem with meeting your customers needs. if you needed new tires and called to see if I had them in stock and could install them today and I told you I did, would you be pissed if you showed up and I said sorry - I knew you wanted em but I didn't get my price or I sold it to another buyer- full well knowing you were coming for em. sorry dude. and then you later see them for sale again!!! you would be livid.

from the sounds of it four things may be happening here.

1) you pay too much for skis/parts and therefore are forced to get a higher price. not easy to sell parts for higher than what the rest of the world is selling for.

2) your research for a given part is based on sales in a period where parts were selling for more than they currently are and you are under the impression you have set a good price but in fact are not.

3) you base your price on half of what new is- this is what most used parts places do. may work for people who are not using this and other sites. but if you are here you realize you can often get parts for half of that still. That is what having friends is all about. thanks everyone!!!!

4) you have some system of mathematically arriving at a price. has no bearing on what it is actually worth.

5) you are a greedy bastard and are just trying to get what you want cause that is what you think you deserve.

If you want to sell parts pick a spot and sell there. if you don't sell much you are doing something wrong. Nikad had no trouble selling tons of stuff until he had some problems that bungled things up. many others are selling stuff all the time. if you can't its clearly not theri fault its yours. time to rethink what you are doing.

again either sell exclusively on ebay and advertise you are selling parts there or don't sell there. list everywhere else and leave a phone number. be straight up with the price. it is what it is. they take it or leave it.

you can of course keep doing what you are doing but I don't see that getting you anywhere fast. I think you have pretty well damaged your reputation on the web and think its only a matter of time before you are no longer able to use ebay. not my concern, but just figured I would try to bridge the gap between the buyers and sellers.

I would say good luck- but that won't help.

[ger87410]

I guess an all-alert bulletin should be released. He's back at it with the exact same tricks.

List of ebay auctions recommended to avoid:
220386942259
320355035672
320355037581
320355040169
320355041308
320355043237
220386975830
220386979393
320355047271
320355049686
320355050613
220386989931
220386991120

Notice that all of the auctions start at $1. None of the auctions have a reserve price or a buy it now price. None of the auctions say that it's for sell anywhere else but ebay.

I got $50 that atleast 5 of the auctions will end before their time without any winners. (Assuming the auctions aren't slammed with fake bids)

Any takers? :deal:

PS: I was going to buy those carbs off ebay earlier, but Diggler ended that auction early. :shrug:

[AdamOntario]

I wasn't going to get involved but...

the auctions that he has running now he will probably sell to highest bidder to prove his "good will", just one little thing everyone is missing, these auctions are for low dollar parts, very smart of him as he "might" loose few bucks sell below to redeem his name.

I said might since shipping might make up for it.

[dirkdiggler]

These parts I do not care how much I get for them....which explains everything you mentioned!

[thomasracing]

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNeg_16x16.gifgave me the run around never sent the item , said it was damaged in packing.



Looks like he is back at it again good work diggler i dont know why i even started this thread your ruining it for yourself.

[dirkdiggler]

Things to keep in mind:

- I Never even sent the invoice for the item
-
I IMMEDIATELY refunded the money you sent me

Dont you dare make it sound like I took your money, gave you the "run around" and never sent the item...........cause that's BS on your part!

[The Penguin]

Things to keep in mind:

- I Never even sent the invoice for the item
-
I IMMEDIATELY refunded the money you sent me

Dont you dare make it sound like I took your money, gave you the "run around" and never sent the item...........cause that's BS on your part!You don't have to send an invoice for a buyer to send payment for an auction if you have a fixed shipping price.

Ebay sends an email, buyer clicks "pay now" and it's done.

if the sale closed and you refused to complete it - you were in clear violation of Ebay policy.

[thomasracing]

who cares about your stupid invoices if someone wins the auction you are obligated to ship it.

[MADMAT]

How could he still not get that? Unreal.

I pay for stuff on Ebay the second I win it.

I would not want to deal this way in a million years....PITA.

[dirkdiggler]

I do get it but I just want to make the entire situation crystal clear

I never took his $$$ and gave him the "run around"

He sent the money....I immediately re-funded

If I could make it right by sending you the motor I already would have, the motor sold to someone else

[SuperJETT]

I'm locking this one for now.