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seatsR4toilets
02-05-2009, 07:24 PM
I've got a Blaster 1 that I'm stripping to use as a mold for a carbon fiber ski.
The pump shoe on it is perfect, and I want to save it. But I need some help and guidence on getting it out without breaking it.
Anybody got any ideas?
Boris
02-05-2009, 07:37 PM
Slow and steady with a lot of luck.
Apply constant pressure, heat the glue and cut what you can with a razor knife.
seatsR4toilets
02-05-2009, 11:22 PM
Slow and steady with a lot of luck.
Apply constant pressure, heat the glue and cut what you can with a razor knife.
That's what I was afraid of.
seatsR4toilets
02-05-2009, 11:22 PM
break it and buy a new one. theyre cheap. That's about my patients level.
SXIPro
02-06-2009, 08:17 AM
Some pop out pretty easily with just a real sharp thin chisel. Others come out in a billion pieces. It's the luck of the draw. Depends who was running the glue machine at Yami that day...
seatsR4toilets
02-06-2009, 09:06 AM
I'm gonna try again today.
Hate to waste a good pump shoe.
ryan
02-06-2009, 02:53 PM
hope i am not to late !!! heat it with a head gun tell its HOT then try and pry it out.(be easy) if its going to come out it will but some of them are in there good and wont come out.
FlWAVEBLASTER
02-06-2009, 06:05 PM
leave it in there and use it in the mold!
seatsR4toilets
02-06-2009, 08:01 PM
hope i am not to late !!! heat it with a head gun tell its HOT then try and pry it out.(be easy) if its going to come out it will but some of them are in there good and wont come out. I'll try that.
Thanks!
seatsR4toilets
02-06-2009, 08:01 PM
leave it in there and use it in the mold!
That's a REALLY interesting suggestion.
Anybody got any thoughts on that?
crammit442
02-07-2009, 01:30 AM
That's a REALLY interesting suggestion.
Anybody got any thoughts on that?

Think that idea all the way through and try to envision the mold made WITH a pump shoe integrated into it. You'll see why it will be tough to do.:smile:
zimmy
02-07-2009, 11:05 AM
I wouldnt leave it in there! you might run into problems should the intake grate rip out and take some of the carbon fiber with it. plus it could take more than you want it to if it did.

http://www.blowsion.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=YASJAL36

Break it out and replace it with the aluminum one, that way if you decide to produce the hull, people will have the option of pump shoe, and the aluminum one wont break.
seatsR4toilets
02-07-2009, 12:52 PM
^^^

yup, just think about all of the release agent youll need to poop the part out of a mold with a basketball hoop in it.

maybe you should rethink this whole hull splashing thing.

if youre starting a thread based on the price of a pump shoe, while 'making molds for carbon fiber b1s'......... well, i hope you know where im going.

just ride dude!

I understand the costs of the build. My next door neighbor is master composits/glassman, however, I sell jet ski parts and I am a firm believer in spare parts. So, it wasn't that I was trying to save a nickel on the build, it was saving a good part. That's all.
This is my second time attempting the carbon blaster hull pullling. Both times that I've attempted it, the farther I get into it I realize just how difficult and expensive it is.
I'm hoping that if it is indeed a success this time, that other B1 surf guys would buy one.
We'lll see how far I get this time...
seatsR4toilets
02-07-2009, 12:54 PM
I wouldnt leave it in there! you might run into problems should the intake grate rip out and take some of the carbon fiber with it. plus it could take more than you want it to if it did.

http://www.blowsion.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=YASJAL36

Break it out and replace it with the aluminum one, that way if you decide to produce the hull, people will have the option of pump shoe, and the aluminum one wont break.

Good point.
I have 5 Blasters right now, so I wanted the pump shoe as a spare, not really for the ski I'm building in carbon.
blaster4life
04-07-2009, 01:16 AM
how is this coming along?
Carbon Blaster
04-09-2009, 12:34 AM
I understand the costs of the build. My next door neighbor is master composits/glassman, however, I sell jet ski parts and I am a firm believer in spare parts. So, it wasn't that I was trying to save a nickel on the build, it was saving a good part. That's all.
This is my second time attempting the carbon blaster hull pullling. Both times that I've attempted it, the farther I get into it I realize just how difficult and expensive it is.
I'm hoping that if it is indeed a success this time, that other B1 surf guys would buy one.
We'lll see how far I get this time...

If it's solid carbon or carbon/kevlar with epoxy resin & not just carbon on the inside/outside for show, then it costs lots & lots & lots & lots....................
snowxr
04-09-2009, 12:59 AM
I have been down the mold and hull buiding road myself, and have a nice 100% carbon ski for all the work myself and a friend put into the project. We spent around 1000hrs. working from start to finish on two skis. Our thoughts were to try to sell a few, but everyone said "I WANT ONE", and NOBODY ever coughed up a single pennie for one. I hope you get the ski you want in the end, but don't expect to pay any bills by making carbon hulls. The demand is small.