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WaveDemon
12-30-2008, 11:03 AM
I'm adding a second router to a small network and looking for a good internet resource for a how to.
unless someone wants to walk me trough it. :)
oxnard111
12-30-2008, 11:04 AM
I'm adding a second router to a small network and looking for a good internet resource for a how to.
unless someone wants to walk me trough it. :)
why do you need a second router? fill us in with a little more info?
home network?
WaveDemon
12-30-2008, 11:14 AM
why do you need a second router? fill us in with a little more info?
home network?
it's a small office network. the first router is far a way from 2 computers in the front of the office. The office has to be wired (not wireless) and running one wire to the front through conduit is easier than 2. I've got a free router from Saki so this option is cheaper too.
WaveDemon
12-30-2008, 11:15 AM
fyi, no server in the office either.
SuperJETT
12-30-2008, 11:17 AM
it's a small office network. the first router is far a way from 2 computers in the front of the office. The office has to be wired (not wireless) and running one wire to the front through conduit is easier than 2. I've got a free router from Saki so this option is cheaper too.
You may be missing some info.
routers are for connecting different networks together to handle the mismatched subnets. In a home setup, it connects the broadband network to your home network, in a business it connects different subnets to each other.
If you need to connect more computers, you need a hub or switch, with a switch being very slightly more expensive but much better at handling traffic. The hub/switch will connect to one port on your router to give you more ports at the other end.
the only couch rider
12-30-2008, 11:20 AM
tim,
is this just for sharing an internet connection since there is no server?
if so, you can run cable from one of the open ports on the 1st router to the input on the second router, but you will have to assign a different ip address to the second router, because there is a good chance they will have the same default ip address
the second option is to turn off the router features if it is a router w/ a built in switch you may still need to assign a different ip address.
the third option is to go get a cheap up from staples for like 20-30 bucks and run the wire to that and be down with it. that option would be the easiest
oxnard111
12-30-2008, 11:24 AM
what Jett said... it is best to just use a switch b/c there will be less configuration, but you can use that free router that you were given also.
WaveDemon
12-30-2008, 11:24 AM
This router needs to let other computers see the internet and map shared drives. I know I can do this with one router and figured I could still do it with two.
Thanks for the help so far guys.
WaveDemon
12-30-2008, 11:28 AM
also, there are 2 printers in the office. I need atleast one of them to be shared on the network if not both.
SuperJETT
12-30-2008, 11:30 AM
A second router could cause some problems if you're using dhcp for ip addresses.
I'd just go pickup a $20 5-port switch and be done with it. If you need a 24-port, I have several of those I'm not using at work and could send you one.
oxnard111
12-30-2008, 11:31 AM
with a switch added to the router is just like having extra ports on the router. just plug in and configure everything as you normally would.
yamasaki
12-30-2008, 11:32 AM
i think he said some computers are just far away from the router.. in that case, the 2nd "router" needs to be setup/configured as just an access point right?
we've got about 100 access points here throughout my office, lol...
ger87410
12-30-2008, 11:44 AM
U don't want or need a router.
Use a hub. By far the cheapest. Since you're only talking about a few computer on a network, traffic's not going to be a concern.
The only time when we notice a decrease in the network performance is when we're transferring large movie files. Then it's eating up as much bandwidth as it can. :smile:
the only couch rider
12-30-2008, 11:45 AM
i think he said some computers are just far away from the router.. in that case, the 2nd "router" needs to be setup/configured as just an access point right?
we've got about 100 access points here throughout my office, lol...
mmmm cisco
yamasaki
12-30-2008, 11:49 AM
it's a small office network. the first router is far a way from 2 computers in the front of the office. The office has to be wired (not wireless) and running one wire to the front through conduit is easier than 2. I've got a free router from Saki so this option is cheaper too.
i saw you mentioned the router i gave you so i figured you were just going wireless. if thats the case, just use a switch.
i can send you a free one of those too, lol.
run an ethernet cable from the front office to whereever youre putting the switch, then wire the other computers to the switch.
easy cheezy.
and gimme me router back!
the only couch rider
12-30-2008, 11:52 AM
i saw you mentioned the router i gave you so i figured you were just going wireless. if thats the case, just use a switch.
i can send you a free one of those too, lol.
run an ethernet cable from the front office to whereever youre putting the switch, then wire the other computers to the switch.
easy cheezy.
and gimme me router back!
indian giver... those seminole's running the casino must be rubbing off on you :beerchug:
WaveDemon
12-30-2008, 01:45 PM
which would be best then, a hub or a switch? ease vs performance.
ger87410
12-30-2008, 01:47 PM
In your environment, both will work equally as well.
It all comes down to cost, IMO.
The hub will be a bit less then a switch.
SuperJETT
12-30-2008, 02:02 PM
which would be best then, a hub or a switch? ease vs performance.
There is no difference in ease of use, you just plug both in.
A hub basically repeats traffic to all ports, a switch opens a channel only between the ports needed, so it's more efficient. (very basic description)
You'll never notice.
However, with hubs you can only stack them so many levels, like one hub into another into another, etc before you run into problems, switches don't have that issue.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=abcat0503012&type=category&usc=abcat0500000&cp=1&sp=%2Bcurrentprice+skuid&nrp=15&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1~~q70726f63657373696e6774696d653a3e313930302d3031 2d3031~~cabcat0500000%23%230%23%2311a~~cabcat05030 00%23%230%23%2356~~cabcat0503008%23%230%23%23t~~nc abcat0503012%23%230%23%23r&pagetype=listing
Prices are almost identical, get a switch.
yamasaki
12-30-2008, 02:04 PM
how soon do you need it tim? i can hand you one in daytona at your favorite price.
ger87410
12-30-2008, 02:13 PM
However, with hubs you can only stack them so many levels, like one hub into another into another, etc before you run into problems, switches don't have that issue.
U can stack them 4 deep, and I have in a production environment w/o problems before installing a switch to break it up.
Prices are almost identical, get a switch.
x2, assuming you can find a switch for the same price as a hub.
Not having looked at prices of either in atleast 2 years, I cannot tell you even ballpark figures for a new 1.
Avoid Linksys. I've had nothing but headaches with their hardware and the tech support is atrocious.
the only couch rider
12-30-2008, 02:16 PM
U can stack them 4 deep, and I have in a production environment w/o problems before installing a switch to break it up.
x2, assuming you can find a switch for the same price as a hub.
Not having looked at prices of either in atleast 2 years, I cannot tell you even ballpark figures for a new 1.
Avoid Linksys. I've had nothing but headaches with their hardware and the tech support is atrocious.
linksys for what its worth is now cisco... the linksys brand is being phased out for the brand Cisco Small Business
SuperJETT
12-30-2008, 02:22 PM
U can stack them 4 deep, and I have in a production environment w/o problems before installing a switch to break it up.
x2, assuming you can find a switch for the same price as a hub.
Not having looked at prices of either in atleast 2 years, I cannot tell you even ballpark figures for a new 1.
Avoid Linksys. I've had nothing but headaches with their hardware and the tech support is atrocious.
I use Linksys gigabit switches and 3com wireless, no issues with either and way less expensive than Cisco. For small switches, I just get whatever is cheapest at the time.
WaveDemon
12-30-2008, 02:36 PM
how soon do you need it tim? i can hand you one in daytona at your favorite price.
I need it by 1/2/09
I've got an old hub at the house from my pre xbox live halo days. I'll probably just use that then.
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