08 Superjet Handpole and steering ??

[Gateway Aquatics]

I have an 08 SJ and 2 things, the steering sucks so i am hearing change to an older cable ? Does that really help or would I be better going with the umi steering kit ? My 07 sxr turns so much tighter its rediculous. The second thing is I feel to far back on the ski when jumping so would cutting the handpole 4" or so be a good idea and how hard is that ? Thanks for the help.

[Gateway Aquatics]

Also I would be against buying a new pole if its worth while and not to pricey but let me know what works best, especially since I am about 240lbs and seems a more forward stance would help with recovering from waves and getting going again. Right now the ski want to stand up to much and its hard to get it going again especially when low on fuel.

[cookerq62]

Get yourself some zero degree bars before you go with a shorter hand pole. You can't run the older cable or umi steering without running the older style pole. The steering setup on the pole end is maxed out as far throw goes. I would hold off on the steering setup until someone comes out with a cheaper solution. You can put a ProTec or Riva Nozzle from a Raider on to get some more throw till then; or move the steering mount inward.

[jetskidude1113]

08 pole is aready 2" shorter the pre 08

[WaveDemon]

Get yourself some zero degree bars before you go with a shorter hand pole. You can't run the older cable or umi steering without running the older style pole. The steering setup on the pole end is maxed out as far throw goes. I would hold off on the steering setup until someone comes out with a cheaper solution. You can put a ProTec or Riva Nozzle from a Raider on to get some more throw till then; or move the steering mount inward.

^^what he said.

If I had an 08 I'd buy a stock or aftermarket pre-08 pole and steering set up and cable.

[Gateway Aquatics]

So cant I cut the 08 pole and make everything work ? I definatly think it needs to be shorter and the steering needs to be a lot quicker.

[rkymtnrider]

the bracket at the top of the pole is whats shorter. and its 2 inches shorter than 96-07.

[Prem1x]

So, an '07 cable on an '08 pole still will not allow for full stop-to-stop steering throw?

[rkymtnrider]

So, an '07 cable on an '08 pole still will not allow for full stop-to-stop steering throw?


if try and use an 07 cable the little nipple lookin thing on the steering plate would have to be 2 inches further out to work.

[cookerq62]

If you use an 07 cable on an 08 ski you will have full throw to the right and zero to the left. What some one needs to make is a brakcet that is offset into the pole about 2 inches so you can run the older cable. You could use collars to hold the cable but thats not the best way and they wpuld probably slip & tweek tha cable.

[Prem1x]

You can't cut some of the tips off of the 07 cable and shorten that f'er up enough? People have been running -2" poles forever. This can't be that big of a deal. Dunno. I'm only making suggestions and haven't inspected the situation yet.

[RMBC Freeride]

The -2" on the '08 pole is in the bracket area - they did not shorten the fiberglass portion at all. The distance between the cable mount and the pivot point of the turn plate is 2" less than previous SJ's (happens to be the same as the FX-1).

This is a hot topic lately, maybe wee need to get a FAQ section going for it... ?

been discussed here: http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=42989
and here: http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=43051

[waxhead]

buy an old busted pole and take the top alloy bit off it and put it on your o8 pole
thats the only difference then put a ealier cable on it

[Prem1x]

How to install quick-steer on an '08 without breaking the steering cable: Drill a 6mm hole though the steering stop on the handle pole's top cast aluminum piece. The hole should be positioned where the turn plate hits the stop. Run a 6x25mm or 30mm bolt through it with a nut on the other end. You'll want to run one to two washers on either side. Run the minimum number of washers so that the plate just hits the bolt. Adjust steering to center and ensure steering solidly hits the bolt and nut before cable bottoms out.

Your handlebars will not pivot as far side to side, but the nozzle is traveling just as far left-to right as before. It is just that now it travels faster because of the quick steer.

An '07 pole and cable would give you even extra travel than this this option. Although, if someone comes out with a better steering nozzle that has a shorter arm, that would effectively give you more travel as well.

I will post a pic tonight.

[BigredZ]

Thanks for the tip. That seems like a perfect quick solution to my problem. Then with a steering nozzle bracket I should have full steering.

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!:Banane13:

[cookerq62]

Thats great but I thought the whole purpose was to get more throw on the steering nozzle?

[Prem1x]

Thats great but I thought the whole purpose was to get more throw on the steering nozzle?
More throw is a great idea but you're not going to get it with the '08 pole and cable. This fix at least allows you to use the quick steer you bought at a better ratio than stock. It is the same amount of throw (i.e. the cable is being pushed in and out just as far) but it will be quicker. Another option would be to use an aluminum nozzle and tap a hole closer in. With an '07 cable that option would probably give more throw.

[Prem1x]

Update: I re-drilled the steering nozzle thru the plastic. I don't know how long this will last till it rips out, but the nut it on tight so the clamping effect should add strength. I am real happy with the results. The steering works good and no need for an older pole and cable.

Also, I am only running one washer on bolts sides of the bolt and nut where I drilled the pole.

[Air time]

Just wanted to see how ur mod is going still holding up??no breakage yet of the plastic????did it give u anymore throw???am wanting to do it to my 08 but wanted to see how yours was holding up first...

[cookerq62]

I did mine even closer than that and its been fine 2 tanks of riding it hard.

[Air time]

Just broke my steering cable on the weekend,was going to just buy a new stock one or was thinking of going to a cable place and getting them to make another one with more thread or make it a few mm longer...any one have an idea if this could give it more throw?i drilled a hole closer to the nozzel that has held up fine but could do with a tinny bit more throw i have umi steering on it aswell,but dont really want to have to get a pre 08 pole and cable what do u ppl think?

[HS7885]

any updates on this? Is getting a pre 08 pole and cable still the only way to get full throw on the 08s?
Also who makes the best steering system for the 08?

[Matt_E]

If you want full throw, you need the older style pole and cable. The problem is inherent to the pole design.

[HS7885]

Ok thanks.
Is it possible to run say the x-metal steering system on the outer hole on the turn plate and modify the steering nozzel with the stock 08 setup?
Also Blowsion makes an expensive new steering cable that is suppose to improve handling on the 08 and 09. Is this any good?

[Matt_E]

I don't know how a different cable is going to make a handling difference (as the problem isn't the cable by itself). You'll have to ask Blowsion about that.

[cookerq62]

Those blowsion cables won't work on the 08 pole. I moved the mount on my steering nozzle as far in as I could get it and it doesn't bind and makes a world of diff. If you can make a bracket to move the cable back 2" into the handpole you will be able to get full throw using athe stock pole with the older cable.

[HS7885]

Do u run a shorten turn plate with the modified nozzel?
Says the work on all 96-09?
http://blowsion.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=02-05-304

[Matt_E]

Give them a call. If they say it works, it probably does.

[cookerq62]

Do u run a shorten turn plate with the modified nozzel?
Says the work on all 96-09?
http://blowsion.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=02-05-304

I sent them an email about it and they said it won't work with the stock pole on the 08. All you have to do is to drill a hole closer to the center of the nozzle.

[HS7885]

I sent them an email about it and they said it won't work with the stock pole on the 08. All you have to do is to drill a hole closer to the center of the nozzle.
Yea I know that but I want to get a shorten turn plate and some bars and Im not sure if the 08 cable will work if i use the outer hole on the turn plate with the modified nozzel.

[jakew4]

I run a pre '08 cable and the stock '08 pole. I have plenty of throw and did not feel the need to get a new pole. I just drilled a hold 2" below the regular steering cable attachment point on the pole and attached the cable there. Worked flawlessly so far.

[cookerq62]

You can't use the outer hole at all. I tapped mine and the plate won't reach the stops because the cable hits its stops. The stock setup is maxed out as far as cable travel.

[cookerq62]

I run a pre '08 cable and the stock '08 pole. I have plenty of throw and did not feel the need to get a new pole. I just drilled a hold 2" below the regular steering cable attachment point on the pole and attached the cable there. Worked flawlessly so far.

That works but your going to get different ratios for your right and left turns. Your also tweaking the cable alot more. If it doesn't break the cable who really cares though? All skis turn differently right and left any way, I wouldn't doubt if this makes the ski more neutral.

[jakew4]

That works but your going to get different ratios for your right and left turns. Your also tweaking the cable alot more. If it doesn't break the cable who really cares though? All skis turn differently right and left any way, I wouldn't doubt if this makes the ski more neutral.

Ratios are right on. No tweaking the cable as it does not max out on either aspect of the turn.

[HS7885]

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[cookerq62]

Ratios are right on. No tweaking the cable as it does not max out on either aspect of the turn.

Doesn't the cable get pushed left & right alot more?

[mik72e]

Guys to get quicker steering on a 09 which steering mount should i attach the cable on the turn plate. Its in the middle from the factory the outer need to be tapped easy but will that give me quicker steering or is it the inner one closer to the steering system position.

The throw is another issue all together i am guessing.

[jetpilot08]

I found a deal on steering cable for my 08 super jet. It says for 96-98 sj's and I'm assuming it will work with the adjustable xmetal pole I'm going to get but I just make to make sure it's the right one before I buy it.

[turnagainhardcore]

buy an old busted pole and take the top alloy bit off it and put it on your o8 pole
thats the only difference then put a ealier cable on it
would this work??

[stanton]

yes

[turnagainhardcore]

I just did the Steering mod at the pump end on my 08. . . .BEST THINGS i HAVE DONE TO IT!!!!!

if you have a 08 or 09 do this. . .i rode a year before doing this and what a mistake!! best things to do to the ski!!

[cookerq62]

Here are a few pics of my setup. The nut is against the plastic of the nozzle

[cookerq62]

make sure you use lock tite mine loosened up pretty quick

[mik72e]

Thats pretty close to the edge why didn t you center it.

[cookerq62]

If you center it you ratios will be off slightly and it will bind. You want to put it inline with the factory mount & the nozzle pivot. It's been like that for a year with no probs.