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Yamahaul
06-06-2008, 12:08 AM
I am new to the site here and just recently bought (my first) a 95' superjet. When the ski is floating the trim or bumper on the right side sits just under the water level but the left side floats above the water. Is this how they are set up or is their something abnormal within the hull? Thanks for any feedback

crab
06-06-2008, 12:09 AM
I am new to the site here and just recently bought (my first) a 95' superjet. When the ski is floating the trim or bumper on the right side sits just under the water level but the left side floats above the water. Is this how they are set up or is their something abnormal within the hull? Thanks for any feedbackBattery and the exhaust tube full of water will do that. You might also have wet foam in the back, most likely.

WaveDemon
06-06-2008, 12:10 AM
if it's floating your OK.

Yamahaul
06-06-2008, 12:12 AM
ok cool. just wasnt sure if something was out of whack on it. new to stand ups and have alot to learn.

crab
06-06-2008, 12:13 AM
ok cool. just wasnt sure if something was out of whack on it. new to stand ups and have alot to learn.
At least you bought the right thing.:woot:

Boris
06-06-2008, 12:13 AM
if it's floating your OK.

shait, if the start button is above water than you are rocking.
:headbang:

Yamahaul
06-06-2008, 12:16 AM
Thats right!!:439:

WaveDemon
06-06-2008, 12:18 AM
ok cool. just wasnt sure if something was out of whack on it. new to stand ups and have alot to learn.
learn to ride and fix things when they break <-- first lesson, to many people want to fix things that work just fine.

Yamahaul
06-13-2008, 09:45 PM
Ok well now its time for some fixin. Went out today for a few hours and everything went fine until... I swapped skis with a bud for a little while and i think he got to playing around in one spot for too long. I rode past my ski and notice the nose was starting to go under, so i dove in and yes i thought it was going to the bottom, went to start it to run all the water out of it and it wouldnt start. managed to get it towed in but the motor will not turn over. dont know yet if its electrical or if the starter went out. when i hit the start button something makes a sound just behind the bilge pump but will not turn over. battery is fine. even when i got it back to the boat slip it proceeded to take on water.WTF. could have taken water in through the carb as my air filter is drinched. gonna let everything dry out i guess 4 now. what to do

WaveDemon
06-13-2008, 09:50 PM
the noise behind your bilge is your starter selinoid, you've either got a bad battery, cables or starter.

if you think you've got water in your motor pull the plugs and get the water out by turning it upside down. you might be able to get the motor to turn over with the plugs out, do that until there is no more water then fog you motor until you can get it running. water in your motor will kill it.

Boris
06-13-2008, 09:51 PM
Pull the plugs and try again.

If there's water in that motor you must act NOW or you may lose a crank.

DAG
06-13-2008, 09:58 PM
come morning that ski is toast.. and not the good kind with butter but more the bad kind thats all burnt, even the crust.

Yamahaul
06-13-2008, 10:17 PM
ok i ilready tried to turn it over with the plugs out. so now, right now im gonna pull the plugs out and turn it upside down. any thing else?

Yamahaul
06-13-2008, 10:38 PM
come morning that ski is toast.. and not the good kind with butter but more the bad kind thats all burnt, even the crust.
thats the most negative thing iove heard all year. is there not something i can pour in through the sparkplug holes to prevent rust or crank destroyed. and yes alot of water came out. carburator too.

joshuaeric
06-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Don't pay any attention to that comment.

I have worked on a ski that was sunk, with water that sat in the motor for over a year, and after many hours spent getting it to fire, it ran like a champ.

Actually, I know of many skis that sat with water in the motor that turned out just fine.

thats the most negative thing iove heard all year. is there not something i can pour in through the sparkplug holes to prevent rust or crank destroyed. and yes alot of water came out. carburator too.

Yamahaul
06-13-2008, 10:46 PM
Pull the plugs and try again.

If there's water in that motor you must act NOW or you may lose a crank.
im ready to act now just not exactly sure how to go about everything. If im not able to get it running tonight (starter bad) is there anyway so save it

Yamahaul
06-13-2008, 10:47 PM
Don't pay any attention to that comment.

I have worked on a ski that was sunk, with water that sat in the motor for over a year, and after many hours spent getting it to fire, it ran like a champ.

Actually, I know of many skis that sat with water in the motor that turned out just fine.
now thats soundin better

Yamahaul
06-13-2008, 10:54 PM
ill tear the whole motor apart right now if thats what ive got to do to save it but is that necessary or is there away around it. lost

joshuaeric
06-13-2008, 10:58 PM
This is what I have done in the past when my ski sank:

I first checked the charge on my battery, and made sure the battery was charged.

If the motor turns over, but won't fire, you're in an OK position.

If the motor won't turn over, remove both plugs and give it a go.

If it won't turn over at that point, you're in for a challenge. At that point I would try to spin the coupler by hand inside the hull (with the plugs removed).

With both plugs removed, turn it over for 3-5 seconds. If water is coming out, you've gotta get it all out.

Put one plug back in, and with your finger cover 90% of the hole and turn it over for 3-5 seconds.

Switch the other cylinder, and do the same thing. Keep doing this until most of the water is out.

The next trick I learned from Mark44. With a friend, spray WD40 down one carb for 2-3 seconds, and switch to the other carb while the friend tries starting the ski with the throttle pinned wide open. Do this for about 10-15 seconds. Make sure there is spark on the spark plugs before doing this.

Good luck.

Yamahaul
06-13-2008, 11:14 PM
thanks

Yamahaul
06-13-2008, 11:52 PM
I think the starter selinoid is fried. I was able to get the motor turned over from bypassing it. think i got most of the water out. guess ill try starting it up now

Yamahaul
06-14-2008, 12:19 AM
motor turning over but no spark to the plugs. if its still the same when all the wiring is dried out then i guess ill replace the starter relay and the ignition coil cause i know water got in that little black box. and thats all i know to do. :banghead:

WaveDemon
06-14-2008, 10:19 AM
there is no spark because you're jumping the solenoid.

Danceswithsuperjet
06-14-2008, 10:25 AM
Water in the electric box can eat cdi's too. Been there.
Got your teather attached or bypassed? Dumb question but I've seen people forget and start looking for bigger problems.
You could also have a problem in your start/stop assembly. Bypass the kill switch all together at the plugs that disconnect between your assembly and e-box. They will usually be down near the carb. That could be your spark problem. It has been so long since I have messed with one of those switches that I couldn't tell you what color is start and which is kill.

WaveDemon
06-14-2008, 10:46 AM
he doesn't have a start/stop problem because the solenoid make noise when he trys to start it.

ATS_Aaron
06-14-2008, 12:17 PM
he doesn't have a start/stop problem because the solenoid make noise when he trys to start it.

Could still be a lanyard problem. I spent 2 hours chasing a no-spark condition that turned out to be a stuck lanyard switch. The lanyard was holding up the external part, but the switch plunger inside the start/stop assembly was stuck down.

Oh yeah a quick note for anyone doing compression tests that don't like sparks jumping all over...hold the kill switch down at the same time as the start switch. The motor will turn over, but the CDI won't fire.

Aaron

WaveDemon
06-14-2008, 04:32 PM
Could still be a lanyard problem. I spent 2 hours chasing a no-spark condition that turned out to be a stuck lanyard switch. The lanyard was holding up the external part, but the switch plunger inside the start/stop assembly was stuck down.

Oh yeah a quick note for anyone doing compression tests that don't like sparks jumping all over...hold the kill switch down at the same time as the start switch. The motor will turn over, but the CDI won't fire.

Aarontrue, the stop button could be stuck.

Yamahaul
06-14-2008, 04:48 PM
Water in the electric box can eat cdi's too. Been there.
Got your teather attached or bypassed? Dumb question but I've seen people forget and start looking for bigger problems.
You could also have a problem in your start/stop assembly. Bypass the kill switch all together at the plugs that disconnect between your assembly and e-box. They will usually be down near the carb. That could be your spark problem. It has been so long since I have messed with one of those switches that I couldn't tell you what color is start and which is kill.
That wasnt a dumb question, to ask me anywayz. but after a beer or 12 the tether clip never even crossed my mind last night because the motor was still able to spin over by jumping the selinoid over. So now ive got spark and it runs, just have to get it to where i can start it with the button. im assuming the only thing it could be is the selinoid. gonna go pick one up. thanks for everyones response.:headbang: