Riot Ride Build Off!

[RonnyMac]

Its officially on again for this year! :arms:
http://forums.riotradio.com/viewtopic.php?t=9807&highlight=

[Jr.]

WoW, it's been a couple of Days since Ronny announced the build off..............No comments yet?
I guess that means you don't want us to do it?????

So far, I have heard that. Steve (WCF) , Wammer, CG Racing (Chuck Galipsie), Keith Head, UnckaHunka (sp?) & myself are all in.
Others are tentative................
Some of the very best freestyle watercraft in the world might be produced!

Last weekend, I watched a couple of episodes of Biker buildoff. On one of the shows, An underdog won!!......... This could be anyones game!!

Please tell me you are getting excited to see this again this year!

[SuperJETT]

I can't wait myself, I missed last year's and AM NOT MISSING THIS ONE!

[SuperJETT]

Oh, and Wammer?!?!?! Holy Smokes Batman!

[T-bone]

boy, a regular guy with 15 bucks in his pocket is going to have a hellofa time going up againt the masters. maybe $20 that should make a bad ass ski.

[Jr.]

boy, a regular guy with 15 bucks in his pocket is going to have a hellofa time going up againt the masters. maybe $20 that should make a bad ass ski.

Hey, Highroller recieved most inovative last year? He was for sure the underdog!

[butti]

i am very excited about this years buildoff.i will be entering my fully custom freeride mod limited edition nitro powered hot pink yamaha vxr PRO

[freestylegeek]

Makes me think about doing something with that squarenose hull in the basement....:dunno:

[MADMAT]

I don't know if I'll be there but I can't even imagine the innovations we are about to see!

[sflsurfrider]

i dont think wammers coming. if he is, hes playing it off like hes not. we'll see.

[waterfreak]

Wow! I cant' wait :woot:

Alright Paul, you'll have to step down this year, it's all mine!!:sad6:

[waterfreak]

BTW Maybe we can give a small preview of what's to come!

Paul, what you got?
OEM? :Banane01: :rolleyes:

[Jr.]

Steve, Steve , Steve, You have been smelling way to much Resin again.
I have all kinds of hulls to pick from............. there are several WCF hulls here in NJ. Please don't make me beat you with your own hull!!!!:aargh4:


Seriously, I have a project on the drawing board that will literally blow everyone away...................... Oh Yea, you will have to come to Lanier to see it yourself!!!

[sflsurfrider]

Steve, Steve , Steve, You have been smelling way to much Resin again.
I have all kinds of hulls to pick from............. there are several WCF hulls here in NJ. Please don't make me beat you with your own hull!!!!:aargh4:




:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[Jr.]

BTW Maybe we can give a small preview of what's to come!

Paul, what you got?
OEM? :Banane01: :rolleyes:


Steve, I belive this one was OEM ???????

I forgot, What place did it get????
http://www.riotradio.com/ronny/buildoff/007.jpg


Oh yea.... 1st

[h2odesperado]

darnit i wish i could go and see these sweet skisss!!:aargh4: :aargh4: Sounds like its gonna be amazing this year with so many competitors! :woot: :woot: Good luck to all!

[Ally]

oohhh this is getting good!!!:Banane09:

[unclehulka13]

Steve, I belive this one was OEM ???????

I forgot, What place did it get????
http://www.riotradio.com/ronny/buildoff/007.jpg


Oh yea.... 1st


too heavy :biggrin:

im comin for ya builders.

prepare to be amazed, even on a budget.

[SuperJETT]

Steve, Steve , Steve, ... Please don't make me beat you with your own hull!!!!:aargh4:

:swordfight:

[Jr.]

:swordfight:

I like those little guys, couldn't be more appropiate :Banane01:

[Jr.]

too heavy :biggrin:

im comin for ya builders.

prepare to be amazed, even on a budget.


Uncle, Welcome to the Build off !


Your spirit is what this is really all about!!!

[romack991]

can't wait to see em in may!

[Waste Land]

Oh! As a neutral between all parties...I will be happy to give test rides in the cove following judging. woot

Cant wait to see all the boats. I'm so pumped already

[T-bone]

well my first boats out.........87 wavejammer........now that was going to be the freeride to end al freeride boats. i cant seem to find grips for the handlebars so i guess ill try putting toghether a SJ.

[waterfreak]

Steve, I belive this one was OEM ???????

I forgot, What place did it get????
http://www.riotradio.com/ronny/buildoff/007.jpg


Oh yea.... 1st

Are talking about the "prototype " hull !!:poke:

It's on!! let the trash talk begin :moon: :stups:

[sflsurfrider]

dont worry steve. i wont tell anybody that youre copying the handicap rail for the buildoff:speechless:

your secret is safe with me.

at least it wont be an OEM handicap rail. :cool2:

[RonnyMac]

Cant wait to see what everyone comes up with!

[waxhead]

yup i am looking forward to it as well
when is the completion date

[Waste Land]

yup i am looking forward to it as well
when is the completion date

May 20th.

Wax...fly over:headbang:

[waxhead]

i am considering it

[SuperJETT]

i am considering it

!!!! You can fly into just about any major city in the southeast and someone will pick you up I'm sure. Atlanta would be the best though.

[waxhead]

sounds good
i just have to see whn ethe holidays are
a teacher we get heaps but dont get to say when we take them

[PancakePete]

Besides How cool these build offs are, How awesome is it to see a couple Big dogs of the sport talk trash about the their builds.

Just that is Priceless.... :Banane01:

[Frosty]

I think the whole thing is totally awesome!!! It really fosters innovation for the sport. Once again, I will not be there to see the sights first hand, but I really look forward to seeing the subsequent posts.

[T-bone]

!!!! You can fly into just about any major city in the southeast and someone will pick you up I'm sure. Atlanta would be the best though.

atlantas the hub, sidney to L.A. to Atl. you can pick up htvixon as you pass though L.A. its only like 16 to 18 hours, but get your ticket soon the last round trip last minute flight was thousands$$$$$$$$$$$$

[yamaslut]

sounds good
i just have to see whn ethe holidays are
a teacher we get heaps but dont get to say when we take them

fly into Orlando and come up w/ me.... we'll hit up some surf then go up and ride Lanier...
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[Jr.]

fly into Orlando and come up w/ me.... we'll hit up some surf then go up and ride Lanier...
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Nick will be camping with our group, You might as well join in also
IHOP has a tent that is like the canvas "HILTON" Pleanty of room!!

[yamaslut]

Nick will be camping with our group, You might as well join in also
IHOP has a tent that is like the canvas "HILTON" Pleanty of room!!

hell yeah... I got a tent, sleeping bags... not to mention the air mattress
:Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01:

I don't know if you guys want me in there w/ ya... I can saw some freaking logs.... :27: :27: :27: :27:

[Ross_C]

I'm lookin forward to see what everyone comes up with...

Will be insane...

[PancakePete]

I'm lookin forward to see what everyone comes up with...

Will be insane...

Dude, you coming ?:Banane01:

[Waste Land]

Besides How cool these build offs are, How awesome is it to see a couple Big dogs of the sport talk trash about the their builds.

Just that is Priceless.... :Banane01:


I wanna see the slightly drunken Wammilton I saw in daytona start talking trash lol. He was damn funny:Banane01:

[Matt_E]

GAH!!!

I want to go!

[yamaslut]

I wanna see the slightly drunken Wammilton I saw in daytona start talking trash lol. He was damn funny:Banane01:

ahhhh... good times.

it was a suprise to all of us to see him come up for the ride...

[IceRocket1286]

my 650 project would win. i swear. mwuahahahahahaha

[kingnothing3]

i would love to have something to compete with. but i will be happy enough just making it to the ride. and i will as long as my trip to jersey the week before doesnt drain the account.:headbang:

[PancakePete]

i would love to have something to compete with. but i will be happy enough just making it to the ride. and i will as long as my trip to jersey the week before doesnt drain the account.:headbang:

It will be cheap... free stay, free clinic, bring you and gas....
Your in dude. Mad fun. We will have fun.

[Ross_C]

Dude, you coming ?:Banane01:


Not sure at this point. I'm trying to put some $$ together for a few other things. We'll see...

[PancakePete]

Not sure at this point. I'm trying to put some $$ together for a few other things. We'll see...

I will shoot you dollars to get you there......
ross going = pete doing happy :Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01:

whole team will be there.

[T-bone]

started mine today, budgets tight, but we will see what can be done.

[romack991]

I hope you dont plan on making that awesome square a fugly roundnose!:hmmm:



:Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01:

[Freestyleriverrat]

I will probably have an x-jet hull by that time but I don't think I will be able to make it to Lanier for the build off :aargh4: Maybe next year......with a lamey cylinder or gp800 powerplant. I would love to see and x-jet in the build off though. Someone has to have one ready by then :woot:

[sflsurfrider]

I will probably have an x-jet hull by that time but I don't think I will be able to make it to Lanier for the build off :aargh4: Maybe next year......with a lamey cylinder or gp800 powerplant. I would love to see and x-jet in the build off though. Someone has to have one ready by then :woot:

yeah, no kidding! at the rate theyre getting mass produced, next years ride will have to incorperate an additional day or 2 exclusively for xjet buildoff boats. no, seriously. :Banane26:

[T-bone]

I hope you dont plan on making that awesome square a fugly roundnose!:hmmm:



:Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01:

can you say............................................... ...............maybe

[WAB]

Dam, that was a nice hull, T! :bigeyes:

Best of luck to ya on the build up!

[Idok]

hey i know that hull!!!

[SkiDaddy]

ahhhh... good times.

it was a suprise to all of us to see him come up for the ride...

Wammer's an OK dude - I think we may see more of him.....

Didn't his skis RULE like 8 years ago?

[GUMP]

Wammer's an OK dude - I think we may see more of him.....

Didn't his skis RULE like 8 years ago?

Royal Flush has one(2002 i think) that runs like a champ!










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[Jr.]

Yes, Wammer was the true innovator in freestyle. He did all the origional boats as far back as 88 I belive. He built for the likes of Ripper, Watkins, Roy, Berlew & many many more..........
I hope it is true that he will participate. I can only imigine what he could come up with. This would be a great compition for sure!!

[yamaslut]

Wammer's an OK dude - I think we may see more of him.....

Didn't his skis RULE like 8 years ago?

YES.... definately a cool cat

[djkorn1]

well... I guess it's official.
The Big Kaw is in. Jeff and I will start goin to town on it immediately.
We need a little green in this event. I doubt we will win, but it will be fun.

DJ:headbang:

[waterfreak]

well... I guess it's official.
The Big Kaw is in. Jeff and I will start goin to town on it immediately.
We need a little green in this event. I doubt we will win, but it will be fun.

DJ:headbang:
Awesome!:headbang: maybe you can incorporate gene simmon's face in the paint job!:Banane01: :Banane01:

[sflsurfrider]

Awesome!:headbang: maybe you can incorporate gene simmon's face in the paint job!:Banane01: :Banane01:

youd rather see paul stanleyhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/spezial/Fool/git.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/travesmilies/flaggen1/smilie_flagge22.gif

[kingnothing3]

It will be cheap... free stay, free clinic, bring you and gas....
Your in dude. Mad fun. We will have fun.

O i know it will be fun!:Banane01: Ive talked myself into going to the riot ride no matter what!:headbang:

[MADMAT]

well... I guess it's official.
The Big Kaw is in. Jeff and I will start goin to town on it immediately.
We need a little green in this event. I doubt we will win, but it will be fun.

DJ:headbang:

Oh Yea!!! A custom free ride SXR!! This is gonna be sweet! Whats Jeffro gonna do?

[Johnnyhaggest]

Does it have to be custom ski or can it be a very nice painted ski with real clean motor and pumpsection.
Maybe we can add another class.
There are lots of freeride skis with hood kits and nice paint jobs but they do not fall into custom cat.

Just a thought.

[Big Kahuna]

yeah, lets make it like racing is today, 50 gazzillion classes (catagories)...

Only way I see to do it different is PRO Vs. Am.

[Big Kahuna]

Yes, Wammer was the true innovator in freestyle. He did all the origional boats as far back as 88 I belive. He built for the likes of Ripper, Watkins, Roy, Berlew & many many more..........
I hope it is true that he will participate. I can only imigine what he could come up with. This would be a great compition for sure!!


I dont think he did anything for Ripper or Watkins........

I think they guy that did Watkins was something like "Looper or Loopers House of Kolor - somehting like that.......... may be the same for Ripper.
paint jobs were similar.

[Jr.]

I thought they were both riding for R&R jet tech. The guy who was doing the paint at the time was a Brazillian from So Fla....... Wammer???
Maybe I'm wrong...... time to go thru some of the old mags

[Big Kahuna]

who wasnt riding for R & R at the time......... Ripper was with PJS for most of the time..........

I know Looper did Watkins for sure....... may, wish I had my old mags still!!!!!

[PancakePete]

Does it have to be custom ski or can it be a very nice painted ski with real clean motor and pumpsection.
Maybe we can add another class.
There are lots of freeride skis with hood kits and nice paint jobs but they do not fall into custom cat.

Just a thought.

this is a great question. I think that Riot and the big dogs should
talk about this, Pro and Am class, or anyone can enter ?
This will open up build to lots of heads.... Be very cool,
but it is also peoples choice votes. So 2 class would be good
so pros boats dont miss the votes.:wink:
Like if I wanted to enter, would a boat made by WCF and an engine
by Jr.magoos be allowed or custom enough to be entered, Mind you
I am not building those 2 things but i would be making it a custom
install and doing other custom personal things to it. Tough call.
is others boats a total custom... :cool2: I think 2 classes would be cool.
I would love to see what people think of different boats.... like sluts
parrs, superjettdave, geeks, and a bunch of others... that would be cool.
I could also see like 100 people entering as well, tough call....
what you think X-h20 ?

[Jr.]

Here's the problem Pete................... This compition is about FUN!
It's not about classes, or who beats who, or anything else. Racing has so many classes, it basicly bored everyone to tears............ Thats not going to happen here. This is Fun, For Bragging rites. for ooohs & Ahhhs.
Win , Loose, or Draw, we are all friends in the end.

Last year there were more custom boats on the beach , than were entered in the build. This year, in expanding on that, everyone was welcomed to participate. the only basic rule is, you have to build (assmble & customise) your own boat. going up against, whoever might enter. Pro's included. All for FUN!! It's not about having more winners, it's about having lots of boats on the beach. it's about FUN!!

[Waste Land]

IMO - Keep it one class

Run what ya brung style. Adding classes will just make it more trouble. Keep it simple. Sack up or sitdown....one vote one person.

I think keeping it simple is the way to keeping it fun.

[butti]

:Banane01:
:Banane09:
:bananajump:
:Banane57:
:Banane39:
:fest30:
:Banane35:
:Banane13:
:Banane25:
:bananapowerslide:
:friday:
:moon:

[T-bone]

Here's the problem Pete................... This compition is about FUN!
It's not about classes, or who beats who, or anything else. Racing has so many classes, it basicly bored everyone to tears............ Thats not going to happen here. This is Fun, For Bragging rites. for ooohs & Ahhhs.
Win , Loose, or Draw, we are all friends in the end.

Last year there were more custom boats on the beach , than were entered in the build. This year, in expanding on that, everyone was welcomed to participate. the only basic rule is, you have to build (assmble & customise) your own boat. going up against, whoever might enter. Pro's included. All for FUN!! It's not about having more winners, it's about having lots of boats on the beach. it's about FUN!!

well said...its really just about the fun of building the things and showing off your craftsmanship.......or lack of:frown:

[jetskiking]

I think these rides and buildoffs are an excellent way to grow the sport. Me and my freinds attended the Fall lanier ride last year. It was our first ride, not that we havn't been riding along time, but just found the boards Last summer and learned about the rides. Anyway we were truely inspired by the skis we saw there and their wasnt even a buildoff. I went home that week and tore my ski apart and all three of us currently have builds going on.Whens the deadline? You guessed it, the spring Lanier ride.Our builds cant even compare to the skis some of you build but have been fun and a great learning expierience none the less. I cant wait to see what people pull out of there hat and I bet there will be alot of customs not in the buildoff just like ours. They will be awsome to see too.http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=96

[PancakePete]

Ok. Sounds good.

[RonnyMac]

All great points guys!
I think this year we need to keep it one class (everyone).
maybe next year we will split it up to am/pro classes. This is getting big!
Amateur would be tough to figure out who qualifies. A guy like T-Bone would have to spend a lot more $ than a guy like Pete with all his sponsors.
Lots of things to consider to split it up.

[PancakePete]

All great points guys!
I think this year we need to keep it one class (everyone).
maybe next year we will split it up to am/pro classes. This is getting big!
Amateur would be tough to figure out who qualifies. A guy like T-Bone would have to spend a lot more $ than a guy like Pete with all his sponsors.
Lots of things to consider to split it up.

Really Good call. Thinking about it, I would much rather vote and spectate. Seems like it should be for true customs builds from the
bottom, up. :Banane01:

[waterfreak]

The more the better!! I hope we have 100 people in the buildoff (that would be everybody there!) it's about the commadery and sharing a passion we all have .

let not forget all of the drinking too!!:beerchug:

Oh yeah, who ever wins get's the bragging rights

Who will it be?????
:bow28:

who will lose?
:rippedhand:

[michael950]

Not that I have attended a Riot Ride... yet... but it seems the build off is to see who has the best ski (function and style). I would definately hate to compete against Paul or Steve, but I also do not think if I had a WCF hull with a Magoo Lamey special I would not be allowed to enter. Remember, there is also pole, hood, pump, paint, inginuity, creativity, and bling.

The question to ask when voting:
"Which ski would I want to have if I could take one?"

[RMBC Freeride]

Keep it pure... this is FREEride!

Classes=racing=division=everything-we-dont-want-to-deal-with! Stand-up, stand together, have fun, build you asses off & RIDE.... FREE!

[michael950]

I like that: Stand-up, stand together

[PancakePete]

I like that: Stand-up, stand together

That is a cool saying.

[RMBC Freeride]

I'm just full of 'em... LOL. (where do you think Magoo got the "not for race use") What can I say I was "inspired" last night. Down for the cause!!! :headbang:

[PancakePete]

I wonder if there is going to be some Build-off smack talk tonight ?
:nutkick: :kabong: :pokey: :spankme: :smashfreakB: :poke: :spank: :swordfight: :twak: :chairshot: :hitwithrock: :buttkick: :slap: :stooges: :argue: :biggthumpup:

[superramjet]

yeah, no kidding! at the rate theyre getting mass produced, next years ride will have to incorperate an additional day or 2 exclusively for xjet buildoff boats. no, seriously. :Banane26:You'll see one this year. I'm in for the build-off. My avatar is my build-off hull.

[PancakePete]

You'll see one this year. I'm in for the build-off. My avatar is my build-off hull.

Very COol. cant wait to see ! :Banane01:

[Freestyleriverrat]

You'll see one this year. I'm in for the build-off. My avatar is my build-off hull.

Hell yeah.........everyone had better bring their A game to this one :Banane01: X-jet :headbang:

[sflsurfrider]

im glad for that. now we will know for sure whether or not xjets really exist.

[335]

Has anyone invited Jeff Curry to the event? THAT could get interesting.:argue: :friday: :slap:

I'm realy looking forward to seeing one in person. Thanks for joining in this build, Tom. Too bad Jeff's business is ran the way that it is or he may have been able to actually contribute something more positive to this sport.

[Mile9c1]

Damn, I wish I could make it, I want to see an X-Jet someday :fingersx:

[335]

I want to see an X-Jet someday :fingersx:

:biggrin:

[superramjet]

im glad for that. now we will know for sure whether or not xjets really exist.except this one is not an xjet, notice the lack of "wings"

[superramjet]

Very COol. cant wait to see ! :Banane01:
can't wait to ride with you again. Are you in for Galveston? I haven't ridden since thanksgiving I don't know if i'll remember how.

[335]

except this one is not an xjet, notice the lack of "wings"

I did not realize that---still looking forward to seeing your build and meeting you.

[Freestyleriverrat]

except this one is not an xjet, notice the lack of "wings"

Damm you Tom for toying with my emotions :nutkick:

[Highroller]

:Banane01: Can't Wait

[335]

:Banane01: Can't Wait

You competing again?

[T-bone]

Hell yeah.........everyone had better bring their A game to this one :Banane01: X-jet :headbang:


i was just bringing my b game, this is getting serious, i need some support.............:biggrin:

[superramjet]

Paul's the one to worry about. I'd love to know what he's building.

[djkorn1]

Me too.... I am stoked about this. I like the idea of it having only one class. It is going to amp everyone to build some cool shizzle!

I'm not out to win... just make my ski sweeeeeeeeeet.

[T-bone]

[QUOTE=superramjet]Paul's the one to worry about. I'd love to know what he's building.[/QUOTE


i have an idea what he's building, im sure it will be the shizzle.........my nizzle...................im a dork

[Jr.]

Paul's the one to worry about. I'd love to know what he's building.


Ok,, Here it is.........http://standupjetski.com/cgi-bin/framed/2239/wetjet_small.jpg (http://standupjetski.com/cgi-bin/i/2239/wetjet.jpg)



Oh wait, thats one of those sitty downny jetty scootty things..........
Their not allowed to enter!!!! Ah schucks

http://www.kawasaki.ca/images/museum_pwc/74JS400B.jpg
Now thats more like it!............

I guess you'll just have to wait till Lanier....:Banane01: :Banane01:

[waterfreak]

Paul's the one to worry about. I'd love to know what he's building.

Really!!:Banane19: Everybody will have their "A" game on! that"s for sure

Glad you'll be there tom !:headbang: If that's not an x-jet, it does look like jeff curry is behind it!!

[PancakePete]

Ok,, Here it is.........



Oh wait, thats one of those sitty downny jetty scootty things..........
Their not allowed to enter!!!! Ah schucks


Now thats more like it!............

I guess you'll just have to wait till Lanier....:Banane01: :Banane01:

I saw that Beast, MAN ! LOOK the F- OUT ! Buld-off'rs
I thought it was insane and then when he took out that 300 motor
for the 650 motor, WHOOOAAA Man. That thing is gunna Bark ! :scared:
:biggrin:

[T-bone]

I saw that Beast, MAN ! LOOK the F- OUT ! Buld-off'rs
I thought it was insane and then when he took out that 300 motor
for the 650 motor, WHOOOAAA Man. That thing is gunna Bark ! :scared:
:biggrin:


yea that baby will have the bark.........cause he's useing the wet jet 61x zoot-capri double throw down intake manifold.

[yamaslut]

yea that baby will have the bark.........cause he's useing the wet jet 61x zoot-capri double throw down intake manifold.

don't forget the aftermarket powerband
:Banane01: :Banane01:

[PancakePete]

don't forget the aftermarket powerband
:Banane01: :Banane01:

It will have Extra Stickers for "VHP" - Visual Horse Power. :biggrin:

[yamaslut]

It will have Extra Stickers for "VHP" - Visual Horse Power. :biggrin:

hell yeah.... can't forget the go fast stickers

[The Penguin]

don't forget the aftermarket powerband
:Banane01: :Banane01:
what color?

[yamaslut]

what color?

yellow.... don't ya know

[Idok]

yellow.... don't ya know




i will donate to the winner a BRAND NEW and NEVER used freestyle sponge.....

ya'll can thank me later...I know these are hard to come by.... :aargh4:

[yamaslut]

i will donate to the winner a BRAND NEW and NEVER used freestyle sponge.....

ya'll can thank me later...I know these are hard to come by.... :aargh4:


wow..... now there is some motivation guys :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Rickster]

I love how everyone is counting waterfreak out of this build.:bs2:

I'm thinking some jaws are going to drop at Lanier this year!:biggrin:

[T-bone]

I love how everyone is counting waterfreak out of this build.:bs2:

I'm thinking some jaws are going to drop at Lanier this year!:biggrin:

whos counting him out.........that mofo can build a hell of a ski, and i think everyone knows it. now if your talking about the trash talk.....well thats just part of the game.

[Rickster]

And who says I aint talking trash....:Banane01:

[Jr.]

whos counting him out.........that mofo can build a hell of a ski, and i think everyone knows it. now if your talking about the trash talk.....well thats just part of the game.


Exactly!!!

& for the record :
I have become friends with Steve over the past couple of years. I have all the respect for him in the world. He is an incredable glass man as well as an all around gifted mechanic.

Now that I said that......................................... I'm still gonna kick his Azz in this Compition!!! & Then I'll buy him a CL:1244: & Eat some of MILF's good cookin!! It's all Good !!! :Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01: Everyone will party like rock stars!!:headbang: :headbang:

Does anyone still need a reason to make the Riot Ride in May????
I didn't think so!

[T-bone]

talked to laurel today, shes not 100% on being able to make it.......thats just not right , its not a riotride with out the vixen.

[waterfreak]

Exactly!!!

& for the record :
I have become friends with Steve over the past couple of years. I have all the respect for him in the world. He is an incredable glass man as well as an all around gifted mechanic.

Now that I said that......................................... I'm still gonna kick his Azz in this Compition!!! & Then I'll buy him a CL:1244: & Eat some of MILF's good cookin!! It's all Good !!! :Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01: :Banane01: Everyone will party like rock stars!!:headbang: :headbang:

Does anyone still need a reason to make the Riot Ride in May????
I didn't think so!

Flattery will get you no where Paul!! lol

I'll be doing the azz kicking this year!:buttkick: :AR15firing:

[madoyster]

I got ya all beat and I ain't scared to show ya eitherhttp://usera.imagecave.com/madoyster/a5_12_sb.jpg

[SuperJETT]

Paul, how is my 3D coming for the buildoff? I hope you went with the carbon kart seat, should get it under 1/4 ton!

[Jr.]

Yup, I have lots of Carbon on it.............................

I'm calling it the SFL signature addition!!!!

Charlie is flying up special to unveil it !!:Banane01:

[T-bone]

i really wish you guys would stop ragging on the 3D....with the new watercraft factory bark-o-lounger carbin kevlar top deck mines going to be the cats meow.

[yamaslut]

Yup, I have lots of Carbon on it.............................

I'm calling it the SFL signature addition!!!!

Charlie is flying up special to unveil it !!:Banane01:

lol..... nice one.

tuche' Charlie
:AR15firing:

[Jr.]

Paul, how is my 3D coming for the buildoff? I hope you went with the carbon kart seat, should get it under 1/4 ton!


Jett, This is the perfect boat for the "really fast in a straight line" trick............ Not bad for "leg dregs" either:woot:

[sflsurfrider]

Yup, I have lots of Carbon on it.............................

I'm calling it the SFL signature addition!!!!

Charlie is flying up special to unveil it !!:Banane01:

hey now! im not going to unveil another 3D. that $hit is WAAAYYYY gay at this juncture! im competing with big dogs here! there is no place for sea-junk.

"im gonna kick your ass from here to right over there!"

[sflsurfrider]

why dont my images show up w/o a link?

do people still think that i am going to post pictures of chicks blowing monkeys?!?!?!:welcome:

[djkorn1]

Check out the new updated pictures of the SXR. I think you guys are in trouble!:bs2:

[michael950]

Check out the new updated pictures of the SXR. I think you guys are in trouble!:bs2:

Will you get that done before lanier?

[brentR]

geez id love to see them skis in person

[WaHoo_1]

Paul, you should really be more careful on the past family pictures you post up. Way too dated!

1720

[Jr.]

Paul, you should really be more careful on the past family pictures you post up. Way too dated!

1720

I told you I used to ride Dinasours. This proves it!:Banane09: :bananalama:

[SuperJETT]

why dont my images show up w/o a link?

do people still think that i am going to post pictures of chicks blowing monkeys?!?!?!:welcome:

I'm looking into it.

[njfl]

OK. I have to find a way to make it to Lanier. I just got back from Steve's today. If anyone has anything to top what he is doing I have to see it in person.

I can't comment on what I saw :27: (he is holding my ski captive until next week), but WOW is all I can say.

[sflsurfrider]

OK. I have to find a way to make it to Lanier. I just got back from Steve's today. If anyone has anything to top what he is doing I have to see it in person.

I can't comment on what I saw :27: (he is holding my ski captive until next week), but WOW is all I can say.

no need to beat around the bush here, joe! you can tell us all about the OEM hull that will kick everyskis ass that you saw at steves shop today.

[unclehulka13]

i'll just continue to be a sleeper.:arms:

[waterfreak]

I think that all of the participants in the build off should post pics of the beginning stage of their projects. Sort of a before and after type!:sneaky:

Ok uncle, what you got!!:bigeyes: :Banane01:

Paul, is it really OEM??:woot:

Supperramajet= x-jet without wings!!

Gene Simmons!!:headbang:

T-bone, yours should be familiar!! lol

If Pete enters is hull, he might kick all our azz!:scared: cause that blue color is the ****zzz!

[Mile9c1]

Superramjet told me his wasn't an X-Jet w/o wings (when Jeff makes an X-Jet w/o wings he still calls it an X-Jet). So I don't know what he's up to. Maybe an X-Jet/Superjet hybrid :scared:

[Jr.]

ok Steve, I went first....... Yes, it started life as a K440
Yes it's a OEM kaw hull (Malone did it , why can't I) The big question is..... How will it finish????

What ya got Stevey??

[waterfreak]

How about putting one of those Lamey's in that 440:woot: :woot: Wouldn't you be a star!!:hail: :arms:

come on Paul, give us a sneaky peaky!:cool2: :bigeyes:

[SuperJETT]

How about putting one of those Lamey's in that 440:woot: :woot: Wouldn't you be a star!!:hail: :arms:

come on Paul, give us a sneaky peaky!:cool2: :bigeyes:

It's so quiet, you can hear the crickets chirping.

http://www.evilasad.com/albums/thailand/crickets.sized.jpg

Ok, so maybe it's crickets crunching, you get my point.

[Flash-FX]

Hey Paul,..:sneaky: ....How's that 6 cylinder lamey that you made from welding the two GP 1200 crankcases together coming along? Didn't that thing have a displacement of something like 2775 CC's and pushing around 570HP?

Better not let Pete take that for a spin.....He'll end up in orbit!

[sflsurfrider]

Hey Paul,..:sneaky: ....How's that 6 cylinder lamey that you made from welding the two GP 1200 crankcases together coming along? Didn't that thing have a displacement of something like 2775 CC's and pushing around 570HP?

Better not let Pete take that for a spin.....He'll end up in orbit!

LMAO! thats great!:hail:

[MADMAT]

OOOH MANNN!!!! Best photochop ever in the history of photochop!!!

ONLY Paul could tune that thing!:hail: :shocked:





Man that would be a long crank.......


:Thinkingof_:

[feartheride]

So paul lehr can I enter my ski in this build off

[Jr.]

Hey Paul,..:sneaky: ....How's that 6 cylinder lamey that you made from welding the two GP 1200 crankcases together coming along? Didn't that thing have a displacement of something like 2775 CC's and pushing around 570HP?

Better not let Pete take that for a spin.....He'll end up in orbit!


Gordo, You totaly crack me up!! Well done!

Wouldn't Steve crap himself it that was a reality!! Ha HA, very good!:Banane01:

[Jr.]

So paul lehr can I enter my ski in this build off

If you want to start a build from scratch, Please be my guest!!

[sflsurfrider]

If you want to start a build from scratch, Please be my guest!!

define scratch?

[waterfreak]

Gordo, You totaly crack me up!! Well done!

Wouldn't Steve crap himself it that was a reality!! Ha HA, very good!:Banane01:

If that was a reality Paul, then you would be the king!! :bow28:

[Jr.]

define scratch?

to start with a virgin hull / doner boat / reconstruction & do a complete custom using your own ideas.............. ????? sky's the limit.



Hey Steve, we need to learn photoshop.............. it could bring our smack talk to new levels...............

who knows, we might accidently design the boat of the future that way?

[sflsurfrider]

this could go huge!

[sflsurfrider]

oops... forgot to add a lifevest:moon:

[djkorn1]

Heres my befores... I got a little thirsty!

[waxhead]

to start with a virgin hull / doner boat / reconstruction & do a complete custom using your own ideas.............. ????? sky's the limit.



Hey Steve, we need to learn photoshop.............. it could bring our smack talk to new levels...............

who knows, we might accidently design the boat of the future that way?
Isnt it stupid talk like this that gave us the 3D :bigeyes:
be very careful in what you are saying :scared:

:biggrin: :biggrin:

[waterfreak]

Isnt it stupid talk like this that gave us the 3D :bigeyes:
be very careful in what you are saying :scared:

:biggrin: :biggrin:

What are you really saying Wax? To keep close minded! Nothing wrong with pushing the creative limits. That's what keep's us motivated .

I'm sure the one who came up with the 3 d isn't out of a job! Yes ,it is quite a piece of ****, but nevertheless, it took some creativity to design and talent to produce:wink:

[waxhead]

yeah you are right seriously its a great ski and i think a 1050 with twin pipes would almost be interesting

[sflsurfrider]

What are you really saying Wax? To keep close minded! Nothing wrong with pushing the creative limits. That's what keep's us motivated.

I'm sure the one who came up with the 3 d isn't out of a job! it took some creativity to design and talent to produce:wink:

http://re2.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1475174889

[orange flattop freestyler]

Just read this thread, wow i wish we had somethin like this in the UK.

I'd be well up for entering in this :)

[djkorn1]

Allright, You guys are all screwed! Jeff and I just had a conference about the buildoff and the ideas we have are getting a little insane. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

I think we got a shot at this sucker.... even w/ a KAWI!!!:woot:

I might have to live in a cardboard box, but oh well... I don't think I can give you guys any more updated pics....

Lamey, Shmamey!!!!

[romack991]

I don't think I can give you guys any more updated pics....




pfft... i'm betting we see some more beer can pics before may:Banane01:

[MADMAT]

OH ****!! Whats a cookin?:27:

[djkorn1]

It's all top secret Mr. Vogi-One Kenobi!!! :439: The ideas ARE gettin crazy. I will have to get you to swear in blood again before I show ya...:tapedshut: :tapedshut:

:27: :27: :27: :27: :27: :27: :27: :27: :27:


ps... Kellys ski is officially 24-7 Scupped... The footholds are Glassed and foamed...I also de-stickered it for ya. All it needs is turf, paint on the hood and new graphics!
:bling: ps... does she want pink on the pole pad? I think it would look killer.

[MADMAT]

Yea throw some pink on there! She will love it!

I know that if you 2 really want to you have a good shot at winnin' lanier!

Even if you don't that thing is gonna own Edgewater:hail:

I swear my silence in BLOOD:tapedshut:

[djkorn1]

I guess it was about time for us North Coasters to start talkin some smack...:aargh4:

[Big Kahuna]

You Cant Hang!!!!!!!!!!!

[waterfreak]

Hey Paul, let see a before pic!!

Do you have anything to show us yet?? Inquiring minds wanna know!

[335]

Hey Paul, let see a before pic!!

Do you have anything to show us yet?? Inquiring minds wanna know!

What You Got?!?!! :biggrin: :sneaky: :biggrin:

PM me the pics...I swear I won't be a double agent...:sneaky: :cool2: :sneaky:

[Tim]

I'm with Chic. Let's see a teaser pic Steve. Anything .

Tim

[djkorn1]

I posted my b4 pics... What r ya afraid of???

[Rickster]

Steve, I'm sorry but inquiring minds want to know...

:sneaky: :sneaky: :sneaky:

This is an actual picture of Steve's boat before he started working on it!

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[djkorn1]

AHA!!! His secret is out...:aargh4:

[waxhead]

Steve, I'm sorry but inquiring minds want to know...

:sneaky: :sneaky: :sneaky:

This is an actual picture of Steve's boat before he started working on it!

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:



:arms: :arms:

[waterfreak]

I'll post mine when Paul post his!!

Ha ha! Where you at Paul!!

[unclehulka13]

my buildoff ski was gonna look like this

http://uscomposites.com/Images/cf/ck94992.jpg
but i liked paint better.

[sflsurfrider]

my buildoff ski was gonna look like this

http://uscomposites.com/Images/cf/ck94992.jpg
but i liked paint better.

thats what the inside of mine looks like!:biggrin:

[Mile9c1]

That looks KILLER :woot:

[waxhead]

how about some one pimps out a new x2
how cool would that be

[Jr.]

Hey Paul, let see a before pic!!

Do you have anything to show us yet?? Inquiring minds wanna know!


There is't any pics yet, I havn't started !!

Oh, But only if you could read my mind!! :sneaky:

[Jr.]

my buildoff ski was gonna look like this

http://uscomposites.com/Images/cf/ck94992.jpg
but i liked paint better.


Thats what I used last year!!!! cool stuff for sure!

[T-bone]

i think anyone looking to get into a custom built freestyle boat needs to come to lanier with a fat check book, there are going to be some killer skis on display.

[Jr.]

i think anyone looking to get into a custom built freestyle boat needs to come to lanier with a fat check book, there are going to be some killer skis on display.

I agree, What I'm building is definately for sale at the event.......

price yet to be determined :27:

[sflsurfrider]

I agree, What I'm building is definately for sale at the event.......

price yet to be determined :27:

admit it! youre patching, repainting and pawning off pancakers cracked wammer hull for the buildoff. right?

shiny shiny? bling bling?:biggrin:

[Jr.]

admit it! youre patching, repainting and pawning off pancakers cracked wammer hull for the buildoff. right?

shiny shiny? bling bling?:biggrin:


It's a 440 I'm tellin ya, a 440 :biggrin: :27:

[SuperJETT]

It's a 440 I'm tellin ya, a 440 :biggrin: :27:

I sure wish I could ride right now....

[Flash-FX]

It appears that the "cone of silence" has come down over this thread.

Hushhhh!! :speechless:

[waterfreak]

I don't know Paul, is the 440 making a comeback?

What's a full blown 440 cost!!

[Jr.]

I don't know Paul, is the 440 making a comeback?

What's a full blown 440 cost!!

It's amazing what you can get for a Dollar! :cool2:

[djkorn1]

I'm done talkin too.....Just beer and sandpaper now.

[Jr.]

Here's a thought..........................

Last year everyone was judged by a peoples choice vote, on a visual basis only........ I belive that should be 75% of the vote.....
now here is the kicker. Set up a panel of 5 rider judges. people who know how the boats are supose to perform. let them do an evaluation of the boats. there would be the final 25%
now judging criteria would be based around, handeling, balance, power, overall impression. Last Year I won on looks & detail. But the boat wasn't dialed in. I found a lot of improvment over the next couple of months.
The new build boats will basicly be the same performance wise. By putting in this type of judging factor, our build performance will be taken to the next level.

Steve,Tom,DJ,Chuck, other builders, Your thoughts on this????

[unclehulka13]

The idea is great, but i might as well give up then. We all know you have the biggest motors, which in turn will produce the most power. I'll be running a stock stroke boat, and for sure wont be able to compare with your 8mil lamey.

[GDFL]

Here's a thought..........................

Last year everyone was judged by a peoples choice vote, on a visual basis only........ I belive that should be 75% of the vote.....
now here is the kicker. Set up a panel of 5 rider judges. people who know how the boats are supose to perform. let them do an evaluation of the boats. there would be the final 25%
now judging criteria would be based around, handeling, balance, power, overall impression. Last Year I won on looks & detail. But the boat wasn't dialed in. I found a lot of improvment over the next couple of months.
The new build boats will basicly be the same performance wise. By putting in this type of judging factor, our build performance will be taken to the next level.

Steve,Tom,DJ,Chuck, other builders, Your thoughts on this????

I'm not a builder and I'm certainly not qualified to tell you how one should feel, but I really like the idea of performance being a factor. I really hate "trailer queens" and crap that either never gets used or is all show and no go. I say do it. Probably not near as big a problem here as in hot rods or custom cycles, but you get the point.
Garrett

[superramjet]

I'm fighting a similar dilema, my platform hasn't been around and in standups for over 13+ years, it's much harder motor combo to perfect in just a couple of months (I'll be lucky if it runs).

I'm sure those streched out choppers don't perform like sport bikes, but somehow the choppers are always winning the shows.

But it doesn't matter either way. I'd be more concerned if i thought I was playing for first place.

[sflsurfrider]

the judging should be done by as non biased a judge panel as possible. "entourage voters" are biased voters. "peoples choice" is nothing more than a popularity contest.:bs2:

maybe a vote on judges, now, that could use proper unbiased discretion, in judging, is in order.:Banane37:

maybe ill have another beer.:headbang:

maybe ill goo outside and gawk at my ski in the rain.:hititbanana: :headbang:

:bigeyes: $HIT!:bigeyes: ....MY SKI IS IN THE RAIN!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!:scared:


brb....:biggrin:

[djkorn1]

Sure.. I'm up for anything! If more than half of the people in the buildoff are up for it I say that is cool. 25% of the final judging sounds good. However, we get into a tricky formula of does the whole 25% go to one person or if there are five judges, whoever each judge votes for gets 5% of the vote.

I like the idea of getting people to ride the boats.... the math gets a little tricky, however.

[djkorn1]

This could make this a long process, but if we do it, the people in the buildoff should each pick 5 judges and the ones with the top 5 votes are in.

Judges can nominate themselves to be on the list. Maybe , each can take a 5 minute ride on each ski.

I'm not taking this too seriously, so I think anyone is eligible to nominate themselves as long as they are not in the buildoff.

[djkorn1]

Actually, I think this helps the little guy. I am sure Pauls ski is a lot harder to tune than mine will be.

[djkorn1]

I need another beer too or I should go to the drunk thread...:smashfreakB::trink26::trink26::trink26:: 439::Banane01:

[T-bone]

Actually, I think this helps the little guy. I am sure Pauls ski is a lot harder to tune than mine will be.


im not really sure thats the case, i think he can work some majic. :wizard:

[RonnyMac]

I like the idea.
We pick say 5 guys to ride each ski, and write their opinions for all the voters to take into consideration in their votes. They must be willing to let everyone see their thoughts on each ski, and each test rider cant have any affiliation with any builder.
Maybe we should have nominees for test riders, so everyone is comfortable with them being unbiased. (is this possible?)
Its a good idea, if we can make it happen.

[MILF]

I like the idea.
We pick say 5 guys to ride each ski, and write their opinions for all the voters to take into consideration in their votes. They must be willing to let everyone see their thoughts on each ski, and each test rider cant have any affiliation with any builder.
Maybe we should have nominees for test riders, so everyone is comfortable with them being unbiased. (is this possible?)
Its a good idea, if we can make it happen.

I think this is a great idea..... and makes it more exciting for us spectators:Banane01: Plus you builders are going to be spending a lot of time and money building the "ultimate" ski - so I think it should be based on more than just a simple viewing to judge.....

Even though we all know that I don't know the technical side..... but numbers I do.

Make the entire contest based on a point system..... Even the people's choice - maybe base it on a point system of 1-5 rating.... Looks, details, appearance, wow factor for the people's choice and the riders base their judging on the same point system but based on handling, power, balance, and overall impression..... The builder with the highest scores WINS! It makes it simple..... I'm sure that Ronny and Evan can come up with the forms for everyone to rate.....

As far as riders.... I agree it should of course be riders that have the experience to judge but I would love to see some of the owners of each site along with pros and upcoming pros...... Maybe Riders such as Harrison, Evan, Jason, Ratti (maybe he can hit that back flip.....LOL)..... Isn't it all about the future of the sport and the promotion of it....???? I just think it should be a group that represents that fact....:woot:

Just my suggestions boys..... Remember I am far from an expert :wink: :rolleyes:

[MADMAT]

I volunteer to ride them all!!!!:Banane01:

[Rickster]

If you base part of the voting on a panel of judges that ride the ski's, and there is only one build class, then I feel the panel of judges need to range from the absolute novice to the professional.

Once the judges have made their decision, then their votes are averaged and totaled with the votes of the spectators.

This would give the small builders that don't have plutonium under their hood, the same chance as the Magoo and WF boats. the novices would not be able to handle the high powered nuclear fueled boats, giving them lower marks and the pro's would not be as impressed with the small builders boats with stock power plants.

othrwise you need to have two classes, pro and amateur jike like in freestyle competition.

[Big Kahuna]

The idea is great, but i might as well give up then. We all know you have the biggest motors, which in turn will produce the most power. I'll be running a stock stroke boat, and for sure wont be able to compare with your 8mil lamey.

Actually, I dont like the monstor power that Pauls ski makes, dont get me wrong, it hits hard, but does not work for my riding style......... Superramjet has ridden my ski, I think he can comment on it....... If yours was tuned good and made all around good power, I would be more inclined to vote in your direction than in the Fire Breather Direction......... Just my riding style...

[unclehulka13]

hey, im up for everything. Chances are im not gonna win, but im gonna have a great time building that sob.

[superramjet]

.... Superramjet has ridden my ski, I think he can comment on it.......

Best running 550 i ever rode.



Just kidding, it was a very well tuned, solid ski. It had the perfect freestyle powerband. It didn't have a stroker crank or $1000 set of carbs on it either. He also rode it the entire weekend without lifting the hood.
(of course tailstands aren't really that hard on a ski)




How about a peoples choice and a builders choice?. The builders range from amateur to pro and can appreciate every detail on the other builder's skis.

[waterfreak]

I like the idea ! but let's focus on the criteria of the bike shows... details, wow factor, and overall asthetics. I like the judging panel idea as long as we have no "bias" judges ( keep Stoyer out of the riding judges!!:bs2: )

I'm sure Paul will probably have the biggest, baddest motor out there (10mm!!!) but will it fit in that 440??:bigeyes: :27:

[MADMAT]

I'm sure Paul will probably have the biggest, baddest motor out there (10mm!!!) but will it fit in that 440??:bigeyes: :27:

Are we talking about a 200+ HP friggin' ski man?!?!?:bigeyes:

OMG. My lifted 4.0 Jeep with 33's only had 190HP!!

[SJBrit]

Doh! I should have got up to date with this thread first. Check my post here: http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=892.

(Darin, perhaps I should have posted in here rather than start another thread. Can you fix that?)

[djkorn1]

Whatever we decide, lets not make it too complicated. Then the fun factor goes out the window.

I don't think we need a point system or anything... The most votes wins. The judges votes are weighted a little more to make up 25% of the votes.

It's much simpler..... and more fun:headbang:

[MADMAT]

:sneaky: I want to visit the top secret family barn location and see whats a cookin':sneaky:

[MILF]

I like the judging panel idea as long as we have no "bias" judges ( keep Stoyer out of the riding judges!!:bs2: )

Oops.... missed that detail.... My bad :rolleyes: Sorry! :bigeyes:

Just looking for the concept of all types and levels of riders to make things fair!!!! headbang:

[T-bone]

now all we need is to get ride magizine to publish all the finding along with Ronny's pctures and we'll have a hell of a shootout artical.

[Jr.]

WoW, I guess most like the idea!! thats really cool!!

The build off to me, Isn't who has the biggest whatever motor. It's who has the best overall package. Looks, performance, WoW factor, rideability.

I agree Static boat shows are boring. To make these boats be able to perform is a key element in the build. That needs to be showcased in some manner. I also agree that a peoples choice is a popularity contest to a degree. But it's also gives the most favorable results.

It's simply not possible to let everyone in attendance ride these machines. But the riding judges need to know how a custom FS boat is supose to preform. Putting a complete amature on a mod boat is dangerous, reguardless of who it's built by. experiance is a definate key.

I have some friends who judge custom auto shows. I'm going to ask them what sort of criteria they use & see if its adaptable for our use.

Please keep in mind that this is only an idea. I'm exploring a possibility,
the final decision will be a vote by the builders of this contest.

Keep the ideas rolling in, there is a lot of good stuff coming for you all.

ski ya, Paul

[RMBC Freeride]

lets not make it too complicated. Then the fun factor goes out the window.


Exactly... But I think there are some good ideas being tossed around here.

Everybody needs to keep in mind that for this to work, the ride will have to be more organized. Say, like with a schedule... eeeeek!?:scared: :scared: :scared: So that way everybody can be there to see or ride or vote, etc.

On another note... since my current project will not be ready for Texas, maybe I need to enter it at Lanier... one more underdog. :biggrin:

[Waste Land]

I'll be a test judge :-)

[romack991]

I'll be a test judge :-)


waste's exact words to me yesterday...
"everything i touch breaks"


you guys might want to think long and hard about the test riders...
:biggrin:

[waxhead]

one word
Dyno runs
hahaha

[Hogggman]

That was 2 words.

[Marshj]

I nominate freestylegeek as a test judge. Amazing rider, and very unbaised gentleman.

[djkorn1]

If the Geek is coming, he would be good.

Other possible judges:

Darin (Superjett: FSF Founder)
Ross C (This guy can roll anything: Kawis, SJ, FX1, X2)
Legdrag Pete (He's got the energy for sure)
Jetskee (We need one Kawi Guy to mix it up)

Just a few suggestions. Trying to think of people who are not affiliated. I trust
yamaslut and Pancake, but some might shout :bs2:

[douglee25]

I've been reading this post for a few weeks now, and after 11 pages of posts, I'm still not seeing a valid way for "Joe Schmoe" to compete with a WF or a Jr. Magoos?? I saw Paul's suggestion about having a people's choice award, but I still feel as though there needs to be at least a few categories for contestants. I understand we don't want to create boundaries in this competition because everyone in it is there to have fun, but I honestly don't see how a $200 ski is going to compete with a $2000 ski is going to compete with a $20,000 ski. Do you guys see my point??

At any sort of auto show, there are multiple categories....

1. Show and Shine
2. People's Choice Award
3. Best Stock
4. Best Modified
5. Etc

I really think for a competition like this that a few categories would be the best route to go. I also believe we would have more entries if we made awards more attainable.

Just my two cents.:biggrin:

Any thoughts on that?

Doug

[djkorn1]

I don't think it's needed yet this year... It's still small and just for fun.

I am sure the event will probably grow due to all the interest, but I still feel we should keep it as simple as possible still. Remember, this is a 'freeride'.

[SuperJETT]

Great ideas, for an organized competition, but you have to realize this is not a truly "organized" event, it's just a bunch of friends getting together to ride when you get down to it, there is no insurance, etc etc. Keep it simple. Besides, it's just for bragging rights, and to show what you can do.

I've been reading this post for a few weeks now, and after 11 pages of posts, I'm still not seeing a valid way for "Joe Schmoe" to compete with a WF or a Jr. Magoos?? I saw Paul's suggestion about having a people's choice award, but I still feel as though there needs to be at least a few categories for contestants. I understand we don't want to create boundaries in this competition because everyone in it is there to have fun, but I honestly don't see how a $200 ski is going to compete with a $2000 ski is going to compete with a $20,000 ski. Do you guys see my point??

At any sort of auto show, there are multiple categories....

1. Show and Shine
2. People's Choice Award
3. Best Stock
4. Best Modified
5. Etc

I really think for a competition like this that a few categories would be the best route to go. I also believe we would have more entries if we made awards more attainable.

Just my two cents.:biggrin:

Any thoughts on that?

Doug

[yamaslut]

great ideas... I think you are seeing the future, if these freerides keep growing like they are:cool2:


I've been reading this post for a few weeks now, and after 11 pages of posts, I'm still not seeing a valid way for "Joe Schmoe" to compete with a WF or a Jr. Magoos?? I saw Paul's suggestion about having a people's choice award, but I still feel as though there needs to be at least a few categories for contestants. I understand we don't want to create boundaries in this competition because everyone in it is there to have fun, but I honestly don't see how a $200 ski is going to compete with a $2000 ski is going to compete with a $20,000 ski. Do you guys see my point??

At any sort of auto show, there are multiple categories....

1. Show and Shine
2. People's Choice Award
3. Best Stock
4. Best Modified
5. Etc

I really think for a competition like this that a few categories would be the best route to go. I also believe we would have more entries if we made awards more attainable.

Just my two cents.:biggrin:

Any thoughts on that?

Doug

[Waste Land]

I've been reading this post for a few weeks now, and after 11 pages of posts, I'm still not seeing a valid way for "Joe Schmoe" to compete with a WF or a Jr. Magoos?? I saw Paul's suggestion about having a people's choice award, but I still feel as though there needs to be at least a few categories for contestants. I understand we don't want to create boundaries in this competition because everyone in it is there to have fun, but I honestly don't see how a $200 ski is going to compete with a $2000 ski is going to compete with a $20,000 ski. Do you guys see my point??

At any sort of auto show, there are multiple categories....

1. Show and Shine
2. People's Choice Award
3. Best Stock
4. Best Modified
5. Etc

I really think for a competition like this that a few categories would be the best route to go. I also believe we would have more entries if we made awards more attainable.

Just my two cents.:biggrin:

Any thoughts on that?

Doug

Thats just too much stuff. People are trying to make the event better but only confusing it. The point of the build off is to see who makes the best boat. It's not meant for everyone and their brother to join up. It's a "**** or get off the pot" situation as Slut says

Keep the events simple....more is not always better

[Rickster]

The sport will grow, if there is an avenue for people to compete and show their skillz at all levels. I would think this would include the boats that they are riding, and a little slap on the back for all the time and $$$$ put into them.

It's probably too late for this year, but I do bleleive there should be an Amateur buildoff in the future. Let the big dawgs hammer it out for bragging rights, and let the little dogs have a bone for their effort...

my $.02

[douglee25]

The sport will grow, if there is an avenue for people to compete and show their skillz at all levels. I would think this would include the boats that they are riding, and a little slap on the back for all the time and $$$$ put into them.

It's probably too late for this year, but I do bleleive there should be an Amateur buildoff in the future. Let the big dawgs hammer it out for bragging rights, and let the little dogs have a bone for their effort...

my $.02

That is basically what I'm getting at. I understand the sport or event in this case is small, but I can't see there just being one class. How many entries are we having at this point? If it's anything in the 10 ski realm, two classes may not be a bad idea.

Taking this from another angle....

A contestant contemplates entering but believes they don't have a decent ski because they are going up against a Jr. Magoos or a WF. In effect, you've limited the entries. So in theory, but not creating more than one class, you've done just the opposite of what was proposed. Do you see my point? Now if there was an amateur buildoff in addition to the "Big Dogs", I bet the entry list would go up.

One class is good if everyone has the same talent, same resouces, same pocket book, etc. In this case, that isn't true.

Just something to think about.:Banane01:

Doug

[SuperJETT]

I think you're missing the point. The Riot Ride is not just the buildoff, it's a fun ride, with no real rules other than being safe/respectful.

That is basically what I'm getting at. I understand the sport or event in this case is small, but I can't see there just being one class. How many entries are we having at this point? If it's anything in the 10 ski realm, two classes may not be a bad idea.

Taking this from another angle....

A contestant contemplates entering but believes they don't have a decent ski because they are going up against a Jr. Magoos or a WF. In effect, you've limited the entries. So in theory, but not creating more than one class, you've done just the opposite of what was proposed. Do you see my point? Now if there was an amateur buildoff in addition to the "Big Dogs", I bet the entry list would go up.

One class is good if everyone has the same talent, same resouces, same pocket book, etc. In this case, that isn't true.

Just something to think about.:Banane01:

Doug

[unclehulka13]

fyi, you dont need deep pockets to compete in this. I've got a budget buildup, and it'll be as nice as the rest of em.

[Big Kahuna]

I think you're missing the point. The Riot Ride is not just the buildoff, it's a fun ride, with no real rules other than being safe/respectful.
Bingo...............

I go to Lanier to Ride and Hangout........................

Only time I care about Amature and Pro Class is at the races.......

[Jr.]

It is about fun, Period!!!

Look at pwc racing. In the begining, everyone thought more classes were the way to go. in hindsight, it was the begining of the end. one of the big reasons racing lost it's clout was because it is boreing.... no spectators, just racers & family.......................Too many of the same thing!

The biker boys do their build as an invitation only build. Just two guys. maybe that is where this should go to in the future. The idea of these builds is to go as far as nessary to win. The idea as I see it is to push the evlolope of the builders. To get the best from them as possible. everyone in this has a budget in mind. I know I do, but the trick is to let your talents get the most for the dollars invested. This year, I see quite a few of the guys with solid chances. I wouldn't expect this to be a Steve or Paul show. anyone entered has a chance to win.

Maybe if there were differant builds at differant events thru out the season. Do those build as an invitation only, two or three guys going at it,
maybee differant levels of builders, I don't know. but one big build with differant classes, isn't what I feel this is about.

Like Jett said, these are fun, non-sanctioned events. It's where we get togeather for good times. These builds are for nothing more than bragging rights. Lets keep the fun in it :Banane01:

[waxhead]

i agree paul
a true free ride guy is there about fun not competition
keep it that way
the prize should be bragging rights around the fire or at the bar the night after

Lets not take the fun factor out

[guiness92]

Where is the buildoff gonna be at this year? is it gonna be a tthe campground or at the cove?

[djkorn1]

I am part of this buildoff and allthough I might not win, I just want some people to say, "that ski has some cool ideas that Pauls or WF doesn't". I would be happy just to have the Kawi guys be stoked to see a bad-ass Kawi Freeride ski.

I will not be disappointed or bummed out at all if my ski is blown out of the water by somebody elses. If it is I will just be stoked to see a ski THAT badass:headbang:.

I say one class for all the marbles. Even if I don't win, my ski will be posted all over X-h2o and the riotradio site and maybe even in a magazine. That is enough of a reward to bust my ass to make it the best ski I can.

I am sure when we get there, all the participants can get together and decide the judges with no probs at all.

[T-bone]

I am part of this buildoff and allthough I might not win, I just want some people to say, "that ski has some cool ideas that Pauls or WF doesn't". I would be happy just to have the Kawi guys be stoked to see a bad-ass Kawi Freeride ski.

I will not be disappointed or bummed out at all if my ski is blown out of the water by somebody elses. If it is I will just be stoked to see a ski THAT badass:headbang:.

I say one class for all the marbles. Even if I don't win, my ski will be posted all over X-h2o and the riotradio site and maybe even in a magazine. That is enough of a reward to bust my ass to make it the best ski I can.

I am sure when we get there, all the participants can get together and decide the judges with no probs at all.



I'll just be happy if someone likes what i built.

[douglee25]

It seems to me that the point of the build off has changed since last year. Last year it was balls to the wall amongst the big dogs. My suggestion was based on last year's turn out. If the event has changed then it hasn't been communicated well enough.

Doug

[SuperJETT]

It seems to me that the point of the build off has changed since last year. Last year it was balls to the wall amongst the big dogs. My suggestion was based on last year's turn out. If the event has changed then it hasn't been communicated well enough.

Doug

Highroller was in it last year, and he's far from a 'big dog' IMO. Last year there was very short notice also, so most didn't have the time/resources to do a ski.

[Mile9c1]

Weren't there different ski awards last year? How'd that work, I forgot.

[Waste Land]

Weren't there different ski awards last year? How'd that work, I forgot.

Build Off Winner - Paul
Best Turf - Steve
Most Creative/Unqiue(SP?) ski - Dan
****ty Ass Ski Award - Smitty

The various other awards for best trick, person, close and far distance tot he ride awards...etc

[Mile9c1]

Those are good awards, nice and simple.

[MILF]

Build Off Winner - Paul
Best Turf - Steve
Most Creative/Unqiue(SP?) ski - Dan
****ty Ass Ski Award - Smitty

The various other awards for best trick, person, close and far distance tot he ride awards...etc

Hey Jesse.... you are slipping :rolleyes:

I can't believe you forgot about the award for "most wrecked chick" and "hottest"...... Weren't they a part of the riding awards????:Banane01: :wink:

[freestylegeek]

Man, I can't WAIT to be down there!
This event will be sooooo sweet!
I have a feeling it will inspire a lot of people to do a build through-out next year.

[waterfreak]

It is about fun, Period!!!

Look at pwc racing. In the begining, everyone thought more classes were the way to go. in hindsight, it was the begining of the end. one of the big reasons racing lost it's clout was because it is boreing.... no spectators, just racers & family.......................Too many of the same thing!

The biker boys do their build as an invitation only build. Just two guys. maybe that is where this should go to in the future. The idea of these builds is to go as far as nessary to win. The idea as I see it is to push the evlolope of the builders. To get the best from them as possible. everyone in this has a budget in mind. I know I do, but the trick is to let your talents get the most for the dollars invested. This year, I see quite a few of the guys with solid chances. I wouldn't expect this to be a Steve or Paul show. anyone entered has a chance to win.

Maybe if there were differant builds at differant events thru out the season. Do those build as an invitation only, two or three guys going at it,
maybee differant levels of builders, I don't know. but one big build with differant classes, isn't what I feel this is about.

Like Jett said, these are fun, non-sanctioned events. It's where we get togeather for good times. These builds are for nothing more than bragging rights. Lets keep the fun in it :Banane01:


It's all about beating Paul's ass!!:Banane09: :spank: :bananapowerslide:

[unclehulka13]

i concur?

[djkorn1]

YEAH!!! Pauls goin down! :1244: He's allready stumblin':trink26:

I will have to bring a little extra fire from down below...:firedevil: I will sell my
soul to satan for the ultimate ski.


I guess I had too many Soda Pops AGAIN tonite...

[RonnyMac]

Thats "wrecked chick", and "Badass chick" Kath. :wink:
Last year Ally won Badass. :biggrin: Sabrina (Courtney) decided the winner.
This year Badass Chick of the ride will be voted on!
We didnt give away the Wrecked Chick award because there werent any.
Pancaker said he's going for the wrecked chick award this year. Look for a dress and a wig. LOL
Will he have any competition? :scared:

[Waste Land]

Somone needs to do a build up on my boat....Hell I FINALLY have a CDI, sealed electric box, and a new solonoid......I'm riding the whole time this year

I'm not a beach hanger while its day light


Hey Jesse.... you are slipping :rolleyes:

I can't believe you forgot about the award for "most wrecked chick" and "hottest"...... Weren't they a part of the riding awards????:Banane01: :wink:

No I cleary said that various other awards were given, i was just focusing on skis though.

Just make sure I got hot wings and redbull and this weekend will be great.

[sflsurfrider]

Build Off Winner - Paul
Best Turf - Steve
Most Creative/Unqiue(SP?) ski - Dan
****ty Ass Ski Award - Smitty

The various other awards for best trick, person, close and far distance tot he ride awards...etc


mmmmmmno. well, kinda.... i turfed that sumbitch and steve turned the award over to its rightful owner:woot: :woot:

[Big Kahuna]

Somone needs to do a build up on my boat....Hell I FINALLY have a CDI, sealed electric box, and a new solonoid......I'm riding the whole time this year

I'm not a beach hanger while its day light




No I cleary said that various other awards were given, i was just focusing on skis though.

Just make sure I got hot wings and redbull and this weekend will be great.


I think we have all figured out you want some Hot Wings....................

[waterfreak]

mmmmmmno. well, kinda.... i turfed that sumbitch and steve turned the award over to its rightful owner:woot: :woot:

Charlie, if you had a bussiness doing turf, it would be called; Obsessive compulsive turfing Inc. :scared: