Fx-1 Guys.. Please come in....

[hardcore]

Few questions about my fx-1 build. Im trying to cut my hood down to run the pole through the hood like ive seen a few times.

Anyone have the dimensions or detailed pics?

Also I ran a stock –2 sj pole on my old one, is that the same length as a standard fx-1 pole? I’m 5’9

If I put a lowered bracket on it should I just run a standard length pole for freestyle since they are already shorter?

Any other info on running a freestyle fx-1 would be great, Thoughts and opinions please?

[Idok]

[quote=hardcore;399752]Few questions about my fx-1 build. Im trying to cut my hood down to run the pole through the hood like ive seen a few times.

Anyone have the dimensions or detailed pics?

I have no info on that...

Also I ran a stock –2 sj pole on my old one, is that the same length as a standard fx-1 pole? I’m 5’9

yes it is......

If I put a lowered bracket on it should I just run a standard length pole for freestyle since they are already shorter?

NO! the shorter and lower the better! my REV steering setup is -7.5!!!!

Any other info on running a freestyle fx-1 would be great, Thoughts and opinions please?




fx1's RULE! :usa2:

[hardcore]

thanks man, here are a couple pics of my start.
gas cap filled in. not sanded or finished yet.

[Freestylin-FX1]

If you look into Slugs build he actually lowered the bracket mount area before channeling the hood. Even with a lower bracket I dont think channeling the hood is going to drop the pole down as far as you may be expecting

[Idok]

nice!

here's a couple of mine....


the first pic is how it looks now, black and white....the blurple pix are when it was freshly built and the last is the first day on the water...

it was cavvin' like a mofo...got that fixed and havent been on a lake since!


:highhorse::headbang:

[hardcore]

what are u running as a motor? nice ski.

[hardcore]

ya i didnt think so. should i just not mess with it?

[Idok]

what are u running as a motor? nice ski.

stock 701...1mm over (717cc) with Bmod pipe.....


and a bit of water restriction at the stinger.....

[hardcore]

62t or 61x? prob 61x.. what kind of bottom end does that bpipe get u? wantta sell it?

[hardcore]

i will post tons of pics later when its done.

[Idok]

62t or 61x? prob 61x.. what kind of bottom end does that bpipe get u? wantta sell it?



this is an x/x motor...they make for GREAT surf motors,....Makes great bottom end, but keep in mind the FX is held back by its mini-pump



the pipe is a FPP B mod, but its a little different than the rest....I will NEVER EVER EVER sell this pipe....at one time or another it has been in every one of my standups..

look at the headpipe....NO adjustment screws...you have to tune this one with restrictors....PITA at first, but once dialed in Ive never had a better running pipe..here's a better pic of it

[hardcore]

ya i am changing my pump out. trying to figure out which to use. 144mm or kawi 650

[Freestylin-FX1]

I could be mistaken but I believe the kawi pump will weigh less and give you the performance you seek. That said Ill be using a bored out 144mm at first anyway

[hardcore]

I could be mistaken but I believe the kawi pump will weigh less and give you the performance you seek. That said Ill be using a bored out 144mm at first anyway

thanks man, i will keep u guys up to date. anyone have any measurements if i go the 144 route? thanks

[LBE]

thanks man, i will keep u guys up to date. anyone have any measurements if i go the 144 route? thanks

Measurements? Send it to Bonzi Bob and get yourself a bolt in pump with no hull mods needed.
However, I changed out my pump shoe with the SJ shoe when I did the conversion.

As for a pole, from a stock FX, My pole is -3 (-5 from a SJ) with the Blowsion short turn plate and Blowsion lowered bracket, and I love it. But I'm also 6' 2"

As for channeling the hood, not worth it IMO. In a SJ there is a lot of extra space, in the FX the hood is alredy low. Too much time.

If you are changing out the bracket for a lowered one, and are eliminating the purple "cowel" cover, I would fill in the indentations. Looks more finished that way. (see pic)

Throw some tubbies on that thing!!

[Freestylin-FX1]

The only drawback I see to the bolt in pump is no change to the intake tract?! What good is a big pump you cant feed. My vote therefore would be to doyour own conversion with the kawi pump and enlarge the intake tract while your there I believe specialfx ( I think) had a thread on this. Best of both worlds on a budget! I mention this only due to your gun ho atitude to fiberglass work and as long as your at it anyway Right?!

[Bonzia Bob]

Not sure if you checked our build out or not, should be some good info for you in here http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=9370

[Bonzia Bob]

Double post :rant:

[gorilla]

idok, that there gas tank in your fx1 sure looks like a sj gas tank ???

how did you get it to fit with those wonderful "glued" in battery box + gas tank strap mount's ???

gorilla

[Flash-FX]

idok, that there gas tank in your fx1 sure looks like a sj gas tank ???

how did you get it to fit with those wonderful "glued" in battery box + gas tank strap mount's ???

gorilla

yea..
And that boat has remnants of ground "ribs". Sj-Sn?

Idoc, Also, how do you adjust the water flow into the head pipe? Jets in the hose or fitting?

Hardcore, Link to my FX fiasco...http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=9841

[Idok]

idok, that there gas tank in your fx1 sure looks like a sj gas tank ???

how did you get it to fit with those wonderful "glued" in battery box + gas tank strap mount's ???

gorilla


lol...that is a squarenose in that pic...it was just to illustrate the pipe...sorry bout that...






the pipe is contrlled with restrictors (aka cheap 4mm sockets)....

[hardcore]

ok heres my problem... i bought the hull already started. he had done some work to fit the 144mm and fiberglassed in the bolt holes. so i will have to get good meassurements to redo the fiberglass and fit a pump. so a bolt in one wont really be worth the money. i may still do it im just between a rock and a hard place. thanks:hitwithrock:

[Freestylin-FX1]

ok heres my problem... i bought the hull already started. he had done some work to fit the 144mm and fiberglassed in the bolt holes. so i will have to get good meassurements to redo the fiberglass and fit a pump. so a bolt in one wont really be worth the money. i may still do it im just between a rock and a hard place. thanks:hitwithrock:

Use a 144 then if half the work is already done! I defintitely would not want you to think the bolt in options are no good. I was once considering the same thing but chose not to for the intake tract reason. Just my opinion. But I suggest talking with some others that have used the bolt in. See if they enlarged the intake area or not and if not do they wish they had? Once again I say this because you dont seem nervous about glasswork and you are already there. Imnot the whiz with glass that some are lol I bought one pretty much done so I cant be of much help there.

[hardcore]

thanks freestylin-fx-1, my friend does all my glasswork and paint so he will do what i ask. i bought him a compressor and and alum welder. of course i got both nearly new for 450 so if not much out of pocket since he does all my skis for free... i will prob go with the sj pump if its not to much of a deal for him. thanks

[gorilla]

idok, you may get some flack about putting a sn pic in the fx1 section !!! HA HA HA

i got a sn tank, and am looking into that upgrade for my fx1, if i dont decide to sell it 1st.

if the weather would get a bit more enjoyable (40' for a high) in pdx the last 2 weeks, i might be able to get out and get wet.

gorilla

[LBE]

See if they enlarged the intake area or not and if not do they wish they had?

As I stated in a previous post, I put in the SJ pump shoe and enlarged the intake area. I really think adding the SJ pump shoe is a must with a bigger pump, and it is really east to do.

[hardcore]

thanks lbe great pics. they will help with my build

[Flash-FX]

As I stated in a previous post, I put in the SJ pump shoe and enlarged the intake area. I really think adding the SJ pump shoe is a must with a bigger pump, and it is really east to do.

Hey Eddie...That looks really good. What did you end up using for a scoop grate? Did you have to move the fwd mount like Chris did from ATP?(the killer FX project from across the pond).

[hardcore]

chris sent me all the pics of that build awhile back and thats what made me buy my first fx-1. i just contacted them a few days ago to see if they made the pole and bracket for sale. they said noooo, and i got teary eyed. anyone know a good pull like that for sale?. i like the thin one like his

[LBE]

chris sent me all the pics of that build awhile back and thats what made me buy my first fx-1. i just contacted them a few days ago to see if they made the pole and bracket for sale. they said noooo, and i got teary eyed. anyone know a good pull like that for sale?. i like the thin one like his

X-metal makes a killer "thin" pole.
I'm running a modded FX1 Jet Dynamics grate right now. However,I recently cut the complete pump shoe out of a SN and plan to graft it in over the winter months so I have a complte SJ pump tract.

Is this the pole in the pic?

[LBE]

found some pics of a Kawi pump in a FX

An FX2

and someones creation

[special fx]

Cool pics LBE.

The Kawi 750 pump pics you posted were what served as the inspiration for my 650 pump mod. I was on the same path for the bearing housing with using a intermediate plate to convert from the Yami 3 bolt bulkhead to the Kawi 4 bolt housing. I'm not sure how this worked out for the ski pictured, but when I laid it out it seemed to moved the Kawi bearing/seals too far forward on the shaft to have the seals reliably ride on the polished part of the shaft. I ended up tossing that idea and put the Kawi housing inside a stock Yami housing and it lets the housing bolt up just like a stock Yami but puts the Kawi bearing/seals at sweet spot on the shaft.

I used the Kawi 650 pump to keep from having to create a pump shoe and by dumb luck it also lets the FX scoop grate bolt right up without mods.....I'd rather be lucky than good!

Here's my version of those pics:

[LBE]

Your intermedite housing set up looks clean. I have collected these pics arround the boards for the past couple years trying to figue out what I wanted to do.

[07txlex]

So let me get this straight.. I can pickup a yami 144mm and send it bonzai and he'll do his thing, I'll then get back a BOLT IN pump for my fx-1? No fiberglass work? I wanna do this mod badly but my fx is in almost new shape and I'd hate to tear it up.

[Idok]

So let me get this straight.. I can pickup a yami 144mm and send it bonzai and he'll do his thing, I'll then get back a BOLT IN pump for my fx-1? No fiberglass work? I wanna do this mod badly but my fx is in almost new shape and I'd hate to tear it up.


yup...

you need a SJ/blaster pump, an fx1 driveshaft + 650 bucks! :Banane57:

[Odd Duck]

It will bolt in with the FX1 pump shoe. You can do a fairly easy mod to enlarge that pump shoe, or you can do a not quite so easy, but not too hard mod and replace the FX1 pump shoe with a SJ pump shoe. The SJ pump shoe is obviously larger diameter. If you go with the SJ pump shoe, you then have to go with SJ intake and grate. It is possible to enlarge the FX1 pump shoe to 144 mm, but you will have to reglass around it.

[07txlex]

Gotcha! I was reading their entire build thread after I posted that, makes sense and is for sure a great offer.. Odd duck have you done it to yours?

[Bonzia Bob]

Yep, she has a 144 pump :biggrin:

[Odd Duck]

Yep, thanks to Bonzia Bob!

Well worth it, I should add. A mod that can't be beat for getting that boat out of the water.

[Idok]

i need to get me one of those too

[Odd Duck]

i need to get me one of those too

Yah, ya do! And slap a quick steer setup on it (pump comes back with a protec nozzle drilled for quick steer, just need the other end of it). I went with a -1" steering plate. You're pretty set, then. You already have a pipe, don't you?

[Idok]

Yah, ya do! And slap a quick steer setup on it (pump comes back with a protec nozzle drilled for quick steer, just need the other end of it). I went with a -1" steering plate. You're pretty set, then. You already have a pipe, don't you?


quicksteer already done, yes its piped and my pole cut 4" or so...

[Flash-FX]

quicksteer already done, yes its piped and my pole cut 4" or so...

With a 144mm you could also use a 650 kawi steering nozzle and a newer style SJ cable...Lots more travel (@ the nozzle) than with a FX cable. Lighter too. :cheer:

[Odd Duck]

We just drilled as close to the body of the nozzle as we could and it's got tons of throw, as much as you could ask for. I 'bout tossed myself off the side of the FX1 the first time I cranked it around and I've been using one on my SN for a while, now.

[07txlex]

Need a $100 off texan special bob lol!:mischievous:

[mtedder]

Need a $100 off texan special bob lol!:mischievous:


x2

[Melmack]

For 1k buks you could have a killer half carbon, half fiber F1-pro bottom deck from Waterdawg. It's already set up for a setback 144 and weighs -25 over stock. Why pay 650+ for a pump conversion?

[Idok]

For 1k buks you could have a killer half carbon, half fiber F1-pro bottom deck from Waterdawg. It's already set up for a setback 144 and weighs -25 over stock. Why pay 650+ for a pump conversion?


who told you that?

[hardcore]

who told you that?

X2 that.

[Melmack]

I was researching the best way to do the pump conversion. I wrote Waterdawg and they gave me some prices fot the deck. Don't know if they where giving me a special deal or what but an all carbon bottom was $1350 and a half and half bottom was $1k. It was just for the deck. No other labor. I would have to dissasemble my fx then reaselmble everything. I just got the price this week.

[Idok]

I was researching the best way to do the pump conversion. I wrote Waterdawg and they gave me some prices fot the deck. Don't know if they where giving me a special deal or what but an all carbon bottom was $1350 and a half and half bottom was $1k. It was just for the deck. No other labor. I would have to dissasemble my fx then reaselmble everything. I just got the price this week.



thats a pretty good deal!




good luck with the split if you decide to go that route!

[Melmack]

Yea, I'm going to consider it when my FX hull gets here Monday. I'll see what the pump conversion task looks like in person before I go cutting out my old hull and all. 1k foor a stronger, lighter hull with setback 144 all ready to bolt in sounds pretty sweet. Just have to convince my wallet and my wife that it's such a great deal.

[Idok]

Yea, I'm going to consider it when my FX hull gets here Monday. I'll see what the pump conversion task looks like in person before I go cutting out my old hull and all. 1k foor a stronger, lighter hull with setback 144 all ready to bolt in sounds pretty sweet. Just have to convince my wallet and my wife that it's such a great deal.


One of the locals here just did a 650 pump conversion last week.....the pump aspect of it is pretty easy..

the midshaft assembly mod is a little labor intensive and requres machinework to bore the assy to fit the kawi parts..



Bobs pump mod is sweet if you have the coin, and just a little work to open up the intake duct as well..





word is still out on the setback pump...I need more tray time to figure out what kind of difference it makes..

[hardcore]

Doesn't special fx do the midshaft for like 50 bucks if you send him all the parts?

[Idok]

not sure, good to know.....we did one here in st. aug with a boremaster (for boring cylinders)..

it worked, but its not the ideal peice of equipment for the process..

[yamanube]

Doesn't special fx do the midshaft for like 50 bucks if you send him all the parts?

He does do it, but Im not sure on the price. I would PM him for more info.

[special fx]

Yup....$50 if you send me good clean stuff. Not in it for the $$, really just do it to help folks out.

[Idok]

Yup....$50 if you send me good clean stuff. Not in it for the $$, really just do it to help folks out.

sweet..good to know


do you use a bridgeport?

[hardcore]

Yup....$50 if you send me good clean stuff. Not in it for the $$, really just do it to help folks out.


Ok i have the zxi900 shaft, 650sx pump complete, ans 650sx bearing housing.
What all do i need for u special fx? Do i need the 650sx bearing housing i have?

Also i'm going to throw more then 50 bucks at u for doing mine. I know u do it to help, but u have time involved and i heard u do a HELLL of a great job.

[special fx]

sweet..good to know


do you use a bridgeport?


Nope....lathe. Well, actually both. I use my Bridgeport and a hole saw to remove the center core out of the Kawi housing and then I take the center core and chuck it up in the lathe and turn it down to fit into the Yamaha housing. I turn it down to .002-.004" interference fit and then freeze it and press it into the Yami housing.

Process is left to right in pic:

[Idok]

damn..nice work!

I guess when my dad offered me that metal lathe, it woudl have been useful!

[Melmack]

Yea, nice work. So, my question is: what's better(All work and $ aside) A 650 Kawi pump or the 144 yama pump? I just scored a compleete 650 with burnt up motor for 100 buks so the 650 pump is an option. I also have a compleete pump, seal and hull from an vxr pro to glass in the entire pump section if I want. Glass work is easy for me but that seems a little extreem. I realy just want the best pump I can get.

[KR]

4mm...big deal. You can gain 18mm more for free, or you can spend $1000 in parts and bonzia bob for 22mm more.

WWJD


--He would go Kawi--

[yamanube]

I need to get the kawi pump conversion done!!

[hardcore]

I am a proud new owner of a special fx bearing setup.:headbang:

[Melmack]

WWJD


--He would go Kawi--

LOL, actualy, wouldn't he just jump off the water like an acrobat? I mean, he would probably laugh at us and just run arround onthe water right? Why ski when you can walk on water?

[Melmack]

BTW, I will be parting with my wife's super clean FX soon. It has a B pipe, milled head, reeds, a new battery and an AC aluminum pole and straight bars. It also has a good stainless impeller, nice ride plate, and grate. It hooks up well considering the mods and the stock pump. This ski looks bone stock clean as can be minus the big decal and new trey pad. I'll post a link to the add soon. It had some minor nose damage due to an over agressive sub but it has been patched well. Other than that, the ski is flawless. It looks like a brand new ski and runs even better. I'm only selling because I have other FX and SN projects and need the cash. PM me if interested. I'm asking $2500 and can deliver out west for the cost of gas if sold in the next few weeks.