My situation with Mark @ Full Throttle/ 24-7

[Speedfreak]

Ok here is the whole long story (from my side) I bought a ski off of the boards here with a TNT motor built by Mark which is now Full Throttle/ 24-7. I was an almost new motor with about 5 hours on it. When I got the motor I took the head off and checked it out and the pistons were still clean gapped good and everything I knew to check. So I done a squish test and that was fine. Leak down test that was also great. Everything checked out.

I put the ski together and rode it a few times. Maybe 3 or 4 tanks of fuel at the most. And I sheered a flywheel key at the Ozarks ride. When I was lapping the flywheel on the crank the next week I noticed a strange sound like there was play in the crank. Anyhow I took it apart and the PTO rod didn't have a bearing carrier in it. Just the bearings which would roll to the bottom of the rod and that is where the slop was coming from.

So the last week of June I sent Mark my motor. I guess he received it by the first week of July. He called me with a quote and some options. I was going to go ahead and get the crank rebuilt and moved to a 6mm along with new domes to lower compression and new pistons because of the motor eating the bearing carrier.

Anyhow about the first week of August I started calling to see what was going on and he didn't answer. I called daily for weeks. Then after many attempts he finally answers and tells me that Crankworks was backed up and they didn't have the crank done yet. So about the middle of September I called Crankworks and they hadn't heard of him nor have they done any work for him. SO I keep calling to see what is up. Mostly 2 times a day hoping to get an answer. Somewhere around here I start leaving messages to just send my motor back like it is and I will take care of it.

Finally I get a hold of his dad and he makes him call me. This is about the 11th of October and Mark says that he sent me an email that morning the motor is done. I can't check email during the day so I tell him to call me when he gets to the shop and I know what the bill will be and I will give him my Credit card info. I call his dad later that evening and he has Mark call me. Mark takes my info and says I will get a tracking number tonight (oct 17)or tomorrow the 18th at the latest. I ask who done the crank since crankworks didn't have anything of his nor have they heard of him. He said "I sent it to crankworks and they were backed up so I had them send it back and I sent it to Jetworks". I took that as feasable and expected a tracking number. So since I didn't receive a tracking number I called Jetworks. Art said "I haven't done anything for him since March. But he called last week maybe Tuesday or Wednesday (16 or 17th) for a quote on a 5mm crank rebuild and said that he would send it over". As of the 25th they still don't have a crank from Mark

So now he is officially lying. I called him and stated that I didn't get my tracking number and I also called Jetworks and what they told me. I told him that if he dropped the ball that was fine but don't try to lie about and say that it is done when you won't get me a tracking number and Art hasn't done any work like that nor has he talked to you except for a quote.

Mark charged $745 on my credit card on the 17th but still won't answer a call so that I can get any information or a tracking number. So I called this week and contested the bill on my credit card and I am filling a complaint with the attorney general. At the present time I just want to get my parts back as they were. If it is completed that is fine I don't have a problem paying for what it done. But if not send my parts back and I will be out of your hair.

I know that this write up is long but 4 months is too long to take to rebuild a motor.

[Mark44]

This guy needs a :chairshot:

He has taken speedfreak from us all riding season I had to watch speedfreak ride around on a Polaris couch while the rest of us enjoyed our summer. Why do a lot of the people in the PWC business act like used car sales men damn shysters?

Mark44

[Maico]

WOW!! I've never dealt with him but sounds as though the guy is hiding and blowing smoke up your azz at the same time.

[Goose]

That sounds a little bit like my problems getting my cylinders back. he keeps making up lies or excuses when you confront him about things that he has.you have way more room than i do to have a complaint cause of the price of your parts but that fact that their is someone doin things like this in the industry is terrible.

[Speedfreak]

I hate the fact that you have to post something like this in public to get problems resolved. But the only time he responds to my emails is after a post on the boards or a call to his dad. I have given him a TON of time to answer phone calls and emails with no results. I feel that I have been more than patient.

His email to me today at 8am says that he will send me my parts back and refund my money minus the shipping if that is what I want. I told him to mail it back. And I will have Art at Jetworks ship me the crank back directly. So we will see what happens.

[Goose]

so he told you that the motor was finished and ready to send out now hes sending you parts back? it just seems like the same story over and over.doesnt answer the phone,when you do get ahold of him he lies what is he doin?
If hes that busy hire someone to answer the phone let people know whats goin on.customer service will go a long way.I do believe he has the ability to produce a great product and can so hopefuly he can resolve the issues and get pointed in the right direction and come out clean with a sucessful business for the sake of the sport

[godocgo]

why do people keep dealing with people like this, there are a lot of good people out there who do good work. just leave these flakes alone and maybe they will go away. just my 2 cents.

[BombThreat]

Don't think twice about posting this publicly. I've only been seriously into watercraft for about 18months and I know, seen, and experenced alot of bull******** in this industry. There are alot of mom and pop shops that really havent the clue about customer service and yet because this sport is so close-nit, people will keep their mouths shut about it. The only way to fix this problem is to hit the companies with a bad rap. Make them work FOR the customer instead of you working to just get your stuff back.

[Speedfreak]

Well his email that I received on the 26th. Said that he would mail my parts back "TODAY" if I wanted.... My reply was to send me a tracking number when the parts are sent back that I would get the crank directly from jetworks.

Here it is the close of business on the 29th still no tracking number. Who ever gets a hold of him when I post something let him know that I want my stuff back yesterday....... He must have an allergic reaction to the phone because he won't touch it when I call

[Matt_E]

Use a different phone. :bigok:

[djkorn1]

:thinkerg:Call on a different phone.

[Speedfreak]

I haven't tried this week yet but I even tried blocking my number and calling. I even called from a different area code and he didn't pick up.......

Which is kinda sickening for someone to have to call from a different phone number or block a number to get a business to pick up...

[PancakePete]

He has a half day on Mondays
if some of you dont get in touch with him, leave message or email
www.iride247.com (http://www.iride247.com)

You will have a tracking number today ! :bigok:

[Speedfreak]

You will have a tracking number today ! :bigok:


Thanks I received the tracking number this afternoon.

Now I just have to see what is on it's way. I wish I had done this months ago I would have gotten to ride this summer. :loser:

[Mark44]

Thanks I received the tracking number this afternoon.

Now I just have to see what is on it's way. I wish I had done this months ago I would have gotten to ride this summer. :loser:

Sweet I hope all the parts are there at least you get your parts back :fing02:

I hope the number is a good one.

Thanks Pete

Mark44

[ketsair]

wow, i'd have loaned you my motor JR, i didn't know you were down??? i need to keep in better touch......

[Speedfreak]

wow, i'd have loaned you my motor JR, i didn't know you were down??? i need to keep in better touch......

Thanks anyhow but I just bought a motor so I can at least ride... ..

UPDATE... I recieved my package that Pete got mailed out....Thanks Pete. I need my crank now.....:shrug:

Lets start at the top... I needed a hone, the crank rebuilt, cases roughed up a bit where the crank rubbed the case, 1 pistons, (I sent him the good one also but I didn't get back) And 1 dome was messed up. But I was going to get 2 new domes recut to lower my compression...

Here is the email I received on the 26th from Mark .... I never told you the crank was done it was shipped out on monday if you want the rest of your stuff i will ship it out today to you the cylinder is done the ck case repaired.You just paid me for the parts for the motor.

$745 for what???? anyhow... In 4 months he accomplished NOTHING. I received my cylinder which needs a hone, no pistons, a bag of bolts with corrosion still on the threads, and a head with a messed up dome.

The crank is still missing in action... I called Crankworks and Jetworks and no one has seen anything from him.

I am posting this over at PWCToday also so that people know what kind of person they will be dealing with.

Buyer beware everyone needs to watch out for this guy... I don't think I would send him any business even if I had invested money there.

[Idok]

did you pay with a credit card?

[Speedfreak]

did you pay with a credit card?

Yea and I have already called them and contested the charge. I don't know what to do after that... Can he run my CC again? Do I have to keep an eye out for his actions later?

[Big Kahuna]

I think you can have the CC company block him from charges.

[XFT LOU]

Is this the person called TNT in New Jersy, in Magoos old shop.

[Speedfreak]

Yea it is all the same guy. It has been a bunch of things. TNT performance, Full Throttle performance, Now 24-7. He is the one that bought Magoos old shop in South Toms River, New Jersey.

[XFT LOU]

He has a half day on Mondays
if some of you dont get in touch with him, leave message or email
www.iride247.com (http://www.iride247.com)

You will have a tracking number today ! :bigok:

Since this was a "half day" did he cantact you on the location of your crank shaft?

[Speedfreak]

Another update: Still no crank.. I was told it was mailed out Monday October the 22nd heading to Jetworks. Monday is 3 weeks for a 5 day trip from Jersey to Calli.

I filed a complaint with the Illinois Attorney General and have already been contacted by my case worker and I filed a complaint with the Trenton, NJ Better Business Beau. I am awaiting a call from them.

All of this could have been avoided by not lying... WoW what a concept the truth.... Why is it so hard to come by these days.

[crammit442]

Another update: Still no crank.. I was told it was mailed out Monday October the 22nd heading to Jetworks. Monday is 3 weeks for a 5 day trip from Jersey to Calli.

I filed a complaint with the Illinois Attorney General and have already been contacted by my case worker and I filed a complaint with the Trenton, NJ Better Business Beau. I am awaiting a call from them.

All of this could have been avoided by not lying... WoW what a concept the truth.... Why is it so hard to come by these days.

I asked Robert and Art(Jetworks) if they'd seen it when I talked to them on Friday and they have seen nothing yet.:thumbsdown:

[Speedfreak]

Thanks Charles.. I am pretty sure I am aggravating them.... I call about every other day.... I PM'd Pete and ask him to ask Mark again for me and Pete said that Mark swears that he sent it out... That is a long time to get to Cali. Maybe it went to Japan first....:lmao:

[JOE BLASTER]

I'm in Jersey and there has been a lot of bad talk about Mark & Full Throttle lately. (from people that I trust)

Saw one of his porting jobs and it looked like it was done with a hatchet by a three year old. This turned into a threat of court action with alleged mis-use of CC but never heard anything else on it. (known fact)

The reason that he doesn't answer the phone is cause he's hardly there. (known fact)
Many people are assuming he's having money problems and has been doing side work elsewhere to make ends meet. Then trying to catch up with pending work when time permits. (speculation)
There are a ton of skis in and out of the premises, Same ones for a very long time now. (known fact)

Before this there was a lot of "good talk" about him and his work. Personally I have seen some really good work, but only junk recently.

My personal experience with him was that he was knowledgable and professional. Hopefully he can get his act together before its too late and make good with alot of people.

Hope this info helps with some answers.
I'm not trying to bash anyone just provide some observations and heresay.

[yoyo]

Wow JR Im sorry you got spanked like that. Makes me sick to think that someone got you for a $700.00 shipping charge, Oh yea minus a crank, wow

[Mark44]

Any new info?

Mark44

[Speedfreak]

I contacted his DAD again..And told him that the lawyer I got charges $200 per hour.. I have a meeting tonight and that I won't be paying the $200 per hour because all I wanted is MY OWN stuff back. That he is making me get a lawyer and the bill will be his responsibility. So his dad called me the next day (yesterday) and said to email Mark and gave me an address. (the same one I keep emailing him on) So I emailed the scum bag again and told him that I have an appointment with an attorney that his Dad wanted me to email him. We'll see today... I just want a tracking number so UPS has to pay for this (am hoping that he still isn't lying)... YEA RIGHT We all know that it is running someone elses boat right now.

So we will see. I am calling his dad again today to see if he got my email. Before I have to write a $200 check for some guy to fight my battles for me because someone won't listen.... The really neet part is he has to come to Illinois to court... AFAIK because I filed the lawsuit... LOL

[Katie]

I contacted his DAD again..And told him that the lawyer I got charges $200 per hour.. I have a meeting tonight and that I won't be paying the $200 per hour because all I wanted is MY OWN stuff back. That he is making me get a lawyer and the bill will be his responsibility. So his dad called me the next day (yesterday) and said to email Mark and gave me an address. (the same one I keep emailing him on) So I emailed the scum bag again and told him that I have an appointment with an attorney that his Dad wanted me to email him. We'll see today... I just want a tracking number so UPS has to pay for this (am hoping that he still isn't lying)... YEA RIGHT We all know that it is running someone elses boat right now.

So we will see. I am calling his dad again today to see if he got my email. Before I have to write a $200 check for some guy to fight my battles for me because someone won't listen.... The really neet part is he has to come to Illinois to court... AFAIK because I filed the lawsuit... LOL

Ouch...don't people know that customers are what makes the business? If you don't have customers you don't have a business. I don't know, maybe I took the wrong MBA classes but there are definately some people here that don't know how to run a business.

Again this sucks...but JR it is definately is looking like you have to do the lawyer. If this guy was valid-he would have given your crap to you long ago. I mean come on its a matter of putting it in the box and giving it to the UPS guy.

[JOE BLASTER]

I'm not instigating, but instead of contacting the AG's office in Trenton, you should be contacting the Toms River Police Dept.

Credit card fraud is better investigated here in NJ since that's where the charge was incurred. Though it can also be investigated where the charge was placed, it will then be harder on the Detectives.

So the harder it is for them to clear the case the less effort they will put into it. It will suck for you, since you are further away. Toms River PD is your best bet. Screw the lawyer, he will just take your money & your time.

Handle it yourself... I have had this happen to me & this worked.

[Speedfreak]

I'm not instigating, but instead of contacting the AG's office in Trenton, you should be contacting the Toms River Police Dept.

Thanks.. I will call in the morning... Anything is better than paying someone else.. I already paid once...

I didn't make it to my appointment work related hold up kept me from making it. But it is rescheduled for Friday.

[Speedfreak]

Well... Joe gave some great advice. Det. Meier is filing a theft report tomorrow. He said some stuff that I can't repeat at this time but he knew who I was talking about before I finished saying his name....:shocked: So for now I am going to cancel my attorney appointment.

[Katie]

Well... Joe gave some great advice. Det. Meier is filing a theft report tomorrow. He said some stuff that I can't repeat at this time but he knew who I was talking about before I finished saying his name....:shocked: So for now I am going to cancel my attorney appointment.

Well sounds like you are getting somewhere. Sucks that it has to come to this though. Make sure to document everything you have done so far just in case it escalates to you having to go to court.

[D Slicker]

I hope it all works out for you. On a different note 200 buck an hour? thats cheap mine is 450.

[JOE BLASTER]

I am fully aware of what Toms River PD Det. said about Full Throttle.

Can't repeat it, these issues are under heavy investigation and it will probably get blocked anyway. (forum heresay rule)

This is an extremely sad situation cause I had high hopes for Mark. Regardless of the things that were said about Paul, there was a huge void opened when he left NJ. He did rank very high here.

Mark was also more reliable and honest compared to all of the other places here in Jersey. I hope he cleans this up, there are a lot of customers counting on him (who may go to PD).

He isn't a bad guy I don't understand why he is taking this route.

Money problems? No excuse for screwing people over.

[JOE BLASTER]

SpeadFreak, PM me your email address and I have his partners info.

Maybe she can talk to him and settle this.

[Speedfreak]

Thanks for the info.. The Det. called me back to today and we talked for quite a while.. They know him really well. Anyhow I thought Mark was a good guy also but this kind of stuff will only cause him to go under fast.

My email is j.ray1@verizon.net Thanks for the help... I owe you a beer

Anyone that has a problem with him.. PM me and I will give you the detective number so he can get your stuff back also.

[nightrider05]

Glad to hear things are hopefully getting worked out..or at least in the right direction. Looking forward to doing some riding with ya next year.

[XFT LOU]

I have read other post (ihop and demo...x) that claim statisfaction? O wait a minute they both are his locals and are in his shop. Take note folks if your not within walking distance to him.....

[Full Throttle Powersports]

speedfreak the crank was shipped over a month ago ups had lost it and i filed a claim i got a call from them two days ago saying that they had found the package and that if would be next day shipped on the 20th and gave me a new tracking #
speadfreak i emailed you that #. Also you have not called my phone in over a month.

[Speedfreak]

I don't think I will get a response from this but why did it take over 2 months of emails and phone calls for you to finally see where the crank was. I filed a complaint with the better business beau and the states attorney and all of this could have been solved by you picking up the phone. I know that more than one person has asked you about my crank. Along with the Toms River Police department.

And about me not calling you can post what ever you want online but we both know that you don't answer any calls from a 618 area code. I have talked to someone there I won't say any names because he asked me not to. But he has called me more than you stating "call him right now I know he is at the shop" What about the number of calls to your dad...aww hell forget it...... I am just glad that this is almost over I am tired of thinking about what a waste you have been.

[JOE BLASTER]

If the crank was truly lost with UPS you would still have the original tracking number & a case number.

Pankake Pete has repeatedly asked you for a tracking number. No answer from you.

You could have called Speedfreak or post a response back in October.

Be honest and settle up with Speedfreak. He just wants his property back.

If you are or were in a bind, talk to him. He is more reasonable than most people around here.

This was never about bashing you, it was about doing the right thing.

[Katie]

If the crank was truly lost with UPS you would still have the original tracking number & a case number.

Pankake Pete has repeatedly asked you for a tracking number. No answer from you.

You could have called Speedfreak or post a response back in October.

Be honest and settle up with Speedfreak. He just wants his property back.

If you are or were in a bind, talk to him. He is more reasonable than most people around here.

This was never about bashing you, it was about doing the right thing.

EXCATELY!

Hopfully the crank truely makes it so speedfreak can get back on the water the Stl crew misses him!

[JOE BLASTER]

It's funny how everyone including Mark's friends think he should return the crank.

Yet no crank. At this point it is a theft not a misunderstanding.

[JOE BLASTER]

Maybe we can get Speedfreaks' crank hand delivered at Daytona.

[Speedfreak]

Here is the UPS tracking information. It looks like it is heading to Art @ Jetworks today. It is funny that the lost package was less than 10 miles from his shop. Anyhow the UPS woman told me to call her Monday and she will tell me everything about the package when it was originally shipped the problems that happened and who paid for the shipment. If there is any because she said that the tracking number isn't a "we lost it" tracking number is it is regular tracking number from an account. But overnight packages won't show all the account info until after delivery.


Package Progress Location Date Local Time ALISO VIEJO,
CA, US 12/22/2007 7:30 A.M.
12/22/2007 7:00 A.M. ONTARIO,
CA, US 12/22/2007 6:05 A.M.
12/22/2007 2:33 A.M. ONTARIO,
CA, US 12/21/2007 6:54 P.M. LOUISVILLE,
KY, US 12/21/2007 5:16 P.M.
12/21/2007 1:06 P.M. NEWARK,
NJ, US 12/21/2007 11:00 A.M. NEWARK,
NJ, US 12/20/2007 11:00 P.M. TINTON FALLS,
NJ, US 12/20/2007 10:30 P.M. LAKEWOOD,
NJ, US 12/20/2007 8:40 P.M.
12/20/2007 5:19 P.M.
12/20/2007 11:30 A.M.

[wavesplashr]

this is exactly why i dont do business with any1 so far away. i have heard good and bad about this guy but i wouldnt risk an expensive job like that. $745 doesnt grow on trees but it looks like u got screwed for it. after seeing a horrible port job this guy did and the past legal problems this guy has been in, i rather not gamble whether he's gonna do a good job with me or a bad one

[XFT LOU]

Correct me if I'm wrong here. This is the crank/engine that he was hired to repair back in June 07. Its still broken and you were billed and it now on its way to jet work finally. I thought you were waiting for a repaired crank that he made some "good" out of all of this. Maybe he will lower his work load and start over to gain business again.

[2nd nature]

THANKS FOR HEADS UP ON THIS KID :spank:

[Speedfreak]

Well looks like something was signed for by Hernandez today at Jetworks. I called to UPS to see what the shipping info was and they told me that it was shipped out by Full Throttle. And that if there was a problem with the shipment or that UPS had lost it, the shipping info would show that in both the tracking number and on the tracking page by giving a reason. Also that the tracking scan in info would show the date that it was originally scanned in. Not the day that it was found.

Read Full throttle's post which is about 8 post above this one. He is a LIAR no way around it. Here is the tracking number if you want to see it. J149 1605 287


I asked him repeatedly if he dropped the ball just to admit it and fix my motor and send it to me. But he had to cover his tail with more lies. I just hope that he sent my crank. Which had a few distinguishing marks. I will know when I talk to Art next week.

[Big Kahuna]

Why did he send it to Jetworks to begin with, They do not rebuild cranks as far as I know, Crammit posted before that they will just send it to Crankworks???????

[Speedfreak]

Don't know I was talking to Art about it and he talked like he done the work in house. I don't know if he really does it or not but we'll see. Heck I have my fingers crossed that this is really a 5mm crank he sent.

[Speedfreak]

speedfreak the crank was shipped over a month ago ups had lost it and i filed a claim i got a call from them two days ago saying that they had found the package and that if would be next day shipped on the 20th and gave me a new tracking #
speadfreak i emailed you that #. Also you have not called my phone in over a month.


I can't believe that he typed that knowing that I don't trust a thing he said. I called UPS and they "The package was scanned in on the 20th at 8PM from Full Throttle. That is the first time that package entered the UPS system" If If it was a mistake with UPS then the tracking number and the shipping information would not be Full Throttle.

Now I can't wait until the 2nd so that I can talk to ART at Jetworks to see if it is really MY crank. I did hear already that the crank they received was taken apart and had the rod and bearing removed then reassembled. WTF??

Yes LOU this is the same motor problems that I have had since June. He took 6 months to send me back my unfinished motor... So now I can start over and get my motor built by someone I can trust. So much for giving a guy a chance...

[Marco72']

What the !@#$ is up with this guy. I'm the dumb fool that bet on one of his Ebay auctions for a glass 24-7 hood. I talked to him on the phone twice, seemed like a very nice and accomodating guy. After aggreeing to custom match and paint the hood to factory colors for an additional $100. We settled on $850 even, all in, for a custom painted hood delivered to Tampa. That was on 4 December. It has now been a month, no hood and no contact despite repeated attempts via email and phone (apparently he doesn't answer 813 area code numbers either). I've even engaged with Chris (former 24-7 owner....and soley responsible for the high reputation 24-7 once had) for any assistance he might lend. I am at wits end, and can't even send him a PM or email via this forum, because apparently his profile restricts it.

If you do happen to read this Mark, note this entire affair has failed the reasonable person test and I have contacted my bank (USAA), which is one of the most reputable and aggressive in the business in protecting it's clients. Then I will take this up with Ebay, then the better business bureau, and finally through the states attorney if necessary. I can get all the legal help I need, and it won't cost me a thing. I am an active duty Marine and assure you that I work do #!@#$@#! hard for my money to be stiffed for $850 bucks. I promise you, I will get it back...all of it.

There is absolutely no reason for this or for any of the other numerous deals you have purportedly fouled up. You were paid fair and square, in full, within 24 hours of that auction ending.

Where is the hood you said was shipped on the 19th (a week late already mind you) via UPS...it takes 3 days from NJ? Where are the tracking numbers you promised to send?

For everybody else, do not deal with this guy! It's really too bad. Chris built an extremely solid reputation with 24-7. Many folks still contend that he made some of the best glass and carbon hoods in the business, only to have it soiled by this guy. That sucks!

BUYER BEWARE!!!

As for the rest of ya.....see you all in Daytona!!

P.S. I'll be the guy shopping for an aftermarket hood.

[crammit442]

Could be intersting. I believe Mark is gonna be in Daytona too. Hmmm.......

[Superjet3]

What the !@#$ is up with this guy. I'm the dumb fool that bet on one of his Ebay auctions for a glass 24-7 hood. I talked to him on the phone twice, seemed like a very nice and accomodating guy. After aggreeing to custom match and paint the hood to factory colors for an additional $100. We settled on $850 even, all in, for a custom painted hood delivered to Tampa. That was on 4 December. It has now been a month, no hood and no contact despite repeated attempts via email and phone (apparently he doesn't answer 813 area code numbers either). I've even engaged with Chris (former 24-7 owner....and soley responsible for the high reputation 24-7 once had) for any assistance he might lend. I am at wits end, and can't even send him a PM or email via this forum, because apparently his profile restricts it.

If you do happen to read this Mark, note this entire affair has failed the reasonable person test and I have contacted my bank (USAA), which is one of the most reputable and aggressive in the business in protecting it's clients. Then I will take this up with Ebay, then the better business bureau, and finally through the states attorney if necessary. I can get all the legal help I need, and it won't cost me a thing. I am an active duty Marine and assure you that I work do #!@#$@#! hard for my money to be stiffed for $850 bucks. I promise you, I will get it back...all of it.

There is absolutely no reason for this or for any of the other numerous deals you have purportedly fouled up. You were paid fair and square, in full, within 24 hours of that auction ending.

Where is the hood you said was shipped on the 19th (a week late already mind you) via UPS...it takes 3 days from NJ? Where are the tracking numbers you promised to send?

For everybody else, do not deal with this guy! It's really too bad. Chris built an extremely solid reputation with 24-7. Many folks still contend that he made some of the best glass and carbon hoods in the business, only to have it soiled by this guy. That sucks!

BUYER BEWARE!!!

As for the rest of ya.....see you all in Daytona!!

P.S. I'll be the guy shopping for an aftermarket hood.

I will be seeing Mark this weekend.. I will see what the deal is with your hood.

[Speedfreak]

Hey man sorry for the problems but it seems that the Detective can straighten him out.... Or he can spend some more time in jail... I hear that his is familiar with the jail there... But I sent you the detectives number. I also have his dads phone number at work I will get that to you also. I think the guy that keeps buying him businesses so that he can run them in the ground needs to know how well he is doing.

And if you see him in Daytona he is suppose to have a ski there for people to test ride. I want to see if it floats without a hood with the throttle pinned wide open......so that will take the crank out and it looks like you can have the hood. LOL.. Might have to swim for it:27:

O BTW his user profile shows the last time he was logged on and that was today at 10AM so you know he checked the email also...

[Superjet3]

Hey man sorry for the problems but it seems that the Detective can straighten him out.... Or he can spend some more time in jail... I hear that his is familiar with the jail there... But I sent you the detectives number. I also have his dads phone number at work I will get that to you also. I think the guy that keeps buying him businesses so that he can run them in the ground needs to know how well he is doing.

And if you see him in Daytona he is suppose to have a ski there for people to test ride. I want to see if it floats without a hood with the throttle pinned wide open......so that will take the crank out and it looks like you can have the hood. LOL.. Might have to swim for it:27:

O BTW his user profile shows the last time he was logged on and that was today at 10AM so you know he checked the email also...

That a mature response let me tell ya. All I know is no one better mess with my hull or there is going to be issues!

[Katie]

I would take speedfreaks advice about getting your money and such Marco72 otherwise you may be like him and waiting six months for it to be taken care of. I would get your money and buy the hood from someone else more deserving.

[The Penguin]

That a mature response let me tell ya. All I know is no one better mess with my hull or there is going to be issues!
I sincerely hope that nobody here is immature enough to mess with your ski to get back at Mark.

[Speedfreak]

I talked to Robert today and the crank that they got its my crank. I am so happy that I finally got all my stuff back. It only took 6 months so I can start all over. I can't wait till this place goes belly up just so no body has to deal with this clown again.





That a mature response let me tell ya. All I know is no one better mess with my hull or there is going to be issues!
I would never do anything to someone else's stuff... that is like beating up your brother for something you have done...

[Speedfreak]

I talked to Robert today at Jetworks and the crank that they received is mine so I am officially done with mark. I hope that he goes belly up soon so that he can't screw anybody else.




That a mature response let me tell ya. All I know is no one better mess with my hull or there is going to be issues!

I would never do anything like that. That is like beating up a buddy of yours for something that you had done in the past. But I am all for" an eye for an eye"

[Marco72']

Just a quick update folks;

Mark contacted me yesterday and explained the situation. Apparently his UPS account was a bit delinquent and the hood/nose piece never left the station. As can be expected, he (like most folks) was inundated with the Holiday madness, and wasn't in the shop much. I can appreciate that. He is supposed to be straightening it out today and will be sending the tracking numbers soon. With any luck, I should have it by next week (hopefully before Daytona.....assuming I can still sneak away and go!).

As frustrated as I am over this (I really wanted to get my graphics mounted and show off a decent looking ski at Daytona), he seems like a decent fellow, but perhaps having come unto some hard times. I can empathize with situations like that, and know how difficult it can be to own/manage a small business (even a successful one). I'm a firm believer in second chances and giving a guy/gal a fair shake. However, how's it go....fool me once, doom on you....fool me twice, doom on me? I'll see what happens next week.

I won't be putting any limpet mines on any jet skis or anything though.....let's leave em out of it. As tough as it can be sometimes....we gotta take the high road. Thanks for all the advice. Speedfreak, hang in there brother....thanks for the help and info, I hope things work out for you too.

Six days and counting......

[Speedfreak]

I would call UPS when you get it next month to see if he is really lying... err I mean telling the truth.

I am done with him. I called the Dect. and told him thanks that I got my stuff back and we are done... I just wish he would have done the work and not waited 6 months to give me my broken stuff back. I gave him countless chances just to say "I dropped the ball... I will get on it next week"... But it didn't turn out that way.

I can't get the 6 months I lost back. So I am chucking it up to experience.




Just a quick update folks;

Mark contacted me yesterday and explained the situation. Apparently his UPS account was a bit delinquent and the hood/nose piece never left the station. As can be expected, he (like most folks) was inundated with the Holiday madness, and wasn't in the shop much. I can appreciate that. He is supposed to be straightening it out today and will be sending the tracking numbers soon. With any luck, I should have it by next week (hopefully before Daytona.....assuming I can still sneak away and go!).

As frustrated as I am over this (I really wanted to get my graphics mounted and show off a decent looking ski at Daytona), he seems like a decent fellow, but perhaps having come unto some hard times. I can empathize with situations like that, and know how difficult it can be to own/manage a small business (even a successful one). I'm a firm believer in second chances and giving a guy/gal a fair shake. However, how's it go....fool me once, doom on you....fool me twice, doom on me? I'll see what happens next week.

I won't be putting any limpet mines on any jet skis or anything though.....let's leave em out of it. As tough as it can be sometimes....we gotta take the high road. Thanks for all the advice. Speedfreak, hang in there brother....thanks for the help and info, I hope things work out for you too.

Six days and counting......