Japanese style footholds

[WFO Speedracer]

I have been looking at the japanese style foot holds for the x2's .I priced them and they are wayyyyyyyyy out there,so that being said I am working on making a set.Here is where I am at so far.I am using the pvc foam product from Farco plastics,it is thermoformable so the first step is I cut out the pieces and heat them up to 150 degrees for a few minutes.Then I formed it around my shoe while it was warm and hold it till it cools,it only takes a minute to cool and retain shape.Then I spread it out slightly before it fully cools off.
Here is what I ended up with.

[X2 RAGS]

sweet, how do you plan on mounting?

[WFO Speedracer]

Okay one side is done,for anyone wondering this is going to be a mold,It is simply just glued with epoxy at the moment.I will glass it on both sides for strength,gelcoat it then use it to lay up parts on instead of making a reverse mold and pulling the parts that way,if I did it the other way this would just be a plug. The pics should hopefully fill in the blanks.

[keefer]

Those look like they are going to work great. Good job so far. :biggthumpup:

[WFO Speedracer]

Hopefully I can lay these up out of carbon fiber when the molds are done.

[BlueBreadTruck]

You should just use straps! If you epoxy in a welded acorn nut it will not come off!!!! and you can step on them if you want. those look badass though!

[WFO Speedracer]

My thinking is you can either put your foot in them or put your foot in front and use them kinda like a wedge on a stand up.I also want to make them easily removable,I am still working on that part,maybe using wingnuts like they use on wakeboard boots.:fing02:

[shawn_NJ]

Wedo, if your interested in making a mold, come up with a price for a set. I will send $$$ over for them, they look great! If not, awesome work anyway!

[WFO Speedracer]

This is the mold,stay tuned you will see.

[WFO Speedracer]

Fine tuned the lines with microlight and layed up some glass.

[madscientist]

looking good

[WFO Speedracer]

Yeah I meant to gelcoat it Sunday but I was out of MEK,I picked up some yesterday so maybe I will get a chance to today.I am also working on a plug for the left side steering cover to cover up that nasty looking stainless piece on the trim.Pics will be up shortly on that one also.

[WFO Speedracer]

Gelcoated and ready for action,now I have to do the other side.A pic of the steering cover I am working on also.

[shawn_NJ]

Cant wait to see how they look mounted. I want a set...LOL!!!

[WFO Speedracer]

So let me ask you this,would you want a set made out of fiberglass or carbon fiber? I am thinking of making both kinds for different prices of course.I have left room inside the mold for hydroturf padding to go.What would be a resonable price for a set of these footholds?

[shawn_NJ]

I couldnt tell you a reasonable price, depends on material cost and time. Carbon is sweeeeeeet, but if it drives the price too high then glass would probably sell better.

While we are on the topic of carbon x2 parts. If someone will make a carbon DCUT, Shortened, Jet Dynamics style rideplate.....I would probably take out a 2nd mortgage.

[crab]

Wedo, I like your ambition and use of your glassing skills, but there is no way I'm putting my feet near holds that could potentially cause injury to my feet. At the ocean things somehow seem to go wrong easily and often, and I already ended up this year with black and blue toes. I do think however they might be best used for freestyle comp. during backflips where you need to be really locked in tite, be carefull guy's.

[crab]

I couldnt tell you a reasonable price, depends on material cost and time. Carbon is sweeeeeeet, but if it drives the price too high then glass would probably sell better.

While we are on the topic of carbon x2 parts. If someone will make a carbon DCUT, Shortened, Jet Dynamics style rideplate.....I would probably take out a 2nd mortgage.
What I would like to see is some X2 specific hull sponsons, not some that were designed around other hulls.

[WFO Speedracer]

Crab truefully these look like they would be easier to get out of than a lot of footholds I see mounted on standups,I'm all about flatwater anyway and plan to make these easily removable,more on that later,now I know what the jap versions cost they are ridiculous,I was thinking maybe $80.00 a set for a fiberglass-white gelcoated set,$125.00 for a carbon fiber set,let me know if I am in the ballpark or not.

[shawn_NJ]

I'll try an $80 set. If they work well I will get a carbon set for the 780. I was planning on raising them slightly with the mounts that I have in mind, to make sure there easy to escape from when you have to toss the ski 8feet in the air. They dont look any harder to escape from then the dakine straps I was using on my old hull.

[WFO Speedracer]

I may have come across an easy way to vacuum bag these,if so that will make this much easier to produce the parts.

[shawn_NJ]

wedo, whenever you are ready pm me your paypal. I dont have a problem being on the beta test crew.

[madscientist]

use an old air hockey table with a large shop vac. put a vlve on the sucction line to seal it off once the bag/ cover fabric is depleated then just wait

[WFO Speedracer]

Actually since it is a small part and the mold will fit into the bag,you use a seal a meal and it vacs it and seals it,Idea I got from the model airplane guys,they vac bag whole wing assemblies with these.

[crab]

Which plastic product is the one you used for the thermoforming, I was thinking it would be the easiest to pull a hull mold with on my reshape. Cost?

[WFO Speedracer]

The material is called foam pvc If I remember right its about $80.00 a sheet for the 1/2 inch and $50.00 a sheet for the 1/4 inch.I got it from Farco plastics.

[WFO Speedracer]

I almost have the second mold completed,trying to get the two molds to match proved to be rather challenging as there are a lot of pieces that have to be put together and glued and glassed,I have it very close and will fine tune it with filler before gelcoating.Stay tuned wezzuh justa bout reddy to makes us sum parts.

[madscientist]

curious to try the hard style holds on the x2

[wadman]

they look real good. with all the extra work needed where will the price be now?

[WFO Speedracer]

Price is going to be the same,its similar to any other foothold,mounting is entirely up to you,I know how I want to do mine so that they are quickly removable,others may not want that,so I think it best to let everyone come up with their own mounting method.I am also thinking of skipping the gelcoating as noone is going to want white,all the ones I have seen are turfed top and bottom so you can use them as footholds and also to lean your foot against.

[astral]

While we are on the topic of carbon x2 parts. If someone will make a carbon DCUT, Shortened, Jet Dynamics style rideplate.....I would probably take out a 2nd mortgage.[/QUOTE]

Get me a plate and I will make you a mold and shape it to what ever...

[madscientist]

While we are on the topic of carbon x2 parts. If someone will make a carbon DCUT, Shortened, Jet Dynamics style rideplate.....I would probably take out a 2nd mortgage.

Get me a plate and I will make you a mold and shape it to what ever...[/QUOTE]

off subject ,but i'll be copying my shortened d-cut shredmaster plate.

[WFO Speedracer]

I have the idea of mounting an aluminum plate in the area under the seat where the foothold goes,that piece will be drilled and tapped and held on with screws and 5200,on the outside mounting holes you just drill through the rub rail and mount it with screws and nuts similar to the way a stock rear trim piece mounts.You should be able to remove these mounted this way in a few minutes with only two tools,if you want to get fancy you could also install an aluminum plate under the rub rail ,drill and tap it and glass it in,then you could use wingnuts like they use on ski bindings for quick removal.

[madscientist]

mount to the rub rail and thru the hull at the pump cavity?

[WFO Speedracer]

No the ledge under the seat ,kinda right in front of the seat latch cable and through the rub rail

[wadman]

where are you at with this foot hold project? is it still in the works?

[madscientist]

he's had a lot going on but hasn't forgot about the project.

1 wife stole truck
2 wife in jail
3 son is having 2 surgeries
4 summerizing customers skis

head on down for the X2travaganza

[WFO Speedracer]

Its going slowly on the footholds however, I got the truck back that night with no impound fees,she gets out tomorrow I think, I have yet to decide whether that is good or bad? My son is still having surgery on the 22nd of this month so the Chickenbone may not be doable,I will have to see how his recovery goes.I am trying to get the X2 ready in case I do get to go,pretty much there now that the exhaust is fixed.I worked on some of the bodywork today and really bodywork and painting is all I have left to do.Now as for the old lady you take a look and decide,this is what I have to work with.

[WFO Speedracer]

Ok I think I will actually be going and while I have had no time to fool with these dang footholds I am probably mounting a set to my X2 to try out,keep in mind that these are actually the plugs for the molds so that would be pre-preproduction right?Anyway at least that way you can get an idea of how they will function and look on a ski.I really shouldn't be screwing with this I have a full plate already but hey you only go around once right?

[madscientist]

thanks terry we will see you on sat

[blaster4life]

.Now as for the old lady you take a look and decide,this is what I have to work with.




Well did you guys get in a fight and she took of with your truck or did she go on a crack bindge and disaper with your truck for a few days? Is she cheating on you....there are alot of factors here

[WFO Speedracer]

Well did you guys get in a fight and she took of with your truck or did she go on a crack bindge and disaper with your truck for a few days? Is she cheating on you....there are alot of factors here

Her body is good,her mind is bad,taking my truck is a huge deal with me as I cannot work without my truck,this situation has resolved itself as she got into major trouble again.:nono::spank:

[blaster4life]

thats good...women can be so stress full