How To Bail !

[PancakePete]

Now since I never bail :haha: I will do my best to explain....

First off... Almost never Let go ! If your holding onto ski.. perferably bars. You know where that ski is thru the Bail....
Reason/example for ...
if your under the ski, and going down, and hit water. You will sink into water, where surface area of ski will hit water and keep ski at top and you just get pushed into water... holding on the whole time of course.

another example: I have had many throw aways in shallow or really nosed in backflips, barrels, flarrels and stabs.... If your coming in vertical and worried about drilling bottom and hurting boat and yourself.... My best advice is to push sideways off ski... kick and push off. that will throw you away from ski and push ski on an angle so it does not drill bottom.

Hold on to them Bars though... I can get some pic examples.
95% of the time I hold on... the other 5% make sure you kick that mother chucker clear...

Hope my Bail info helps someone ! :splatt:

[PancakePete]

holding on:
http://ronnymac.exposuremanager.com/p/daytona_freeride_07/img_499655
http://ronnymac.exposuremanager.com/p/daytona_freeride_07/img_499731 (fliyin Zen)

the side kick off
http://ronnymac.exposuremanager.com/p/daytona_freeride_07/img_501252


I'll look for some more.

[sjetrider]

The side kick off is what I tried Thursday, MY MISTAKE you ask, LETTING GO OF BARS.
Result, 12" bruise, softball size knot on back/side of right thigh and 4" bent X-metal bars.

I know not to BAIL, why can I not GET IT THROUGH MY THICK HEAD WHEN feet come out of the tray when inverted?????????????????????

[Conquistador]

When I bail I never hold on to the bars. I may hold on if I'm landing inverted or something like that. From playing football as a kid & being as clumsy as I am I have just learned how to fall over the years.:splatt: It's all about body movement once you are airborn without the ski. Or I just flail.:headbang: It's sad that I'm such an expert on the subject.:banghead:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i224/capitanBS/bs20bail7E0-1.jpg

[Conquistador]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not recommending that you let go. That's just how I roll.:1244:

[Josiah]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not recommending that you let go. That's just how I roll.:1244:

As lame as it sounds there doesn't appear to be a legal beach to ride on in NorCal. Pismo is cencal and quite the drive :[ Anyone know of any San Francisco beaches where I can hit the surf. Me and the buddy's are really looking for a place to hit some real waves.

[eastbay]

nope!!! too many hippies just roll down to pismo! youll get a fat ticket or loose your ski!

[ThinMint]

why is it you see alot of ppl ditching on under rotated stabs(surf) not inverted or anything but just maybe 90* and a bail
ive always held on and nothing bad comes from it
im just pondering why i see that so much:borladuck:

[Vumad]

http://ronnymac.exposuremanager.com/..._07/img_499655

That's not a bail.

That's an inverted CanCan

[xeon]

HERES ME BAILING!!! I have it down :P http://a878.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/90/l_954074d8971d97932f636d35655bb3c5.jpg

[beachjunkey]

Or you could be like zimmy miagi over here and crane kick it away.
http://www.wavejunkies.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10040/normal_zimmy-001.jpg

[wydopen]

Or you could be like zimmy miagi over here and crane kick it away.
http://www.wavejunkies.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10040/normal_zimmy-001.jpg

thats a really long lanyard

[Vumad]

thats a really long lanyard

LMAO, I thought that too.

[ThinMint]

you guys do know thats spiderman right...these days he rides skis
that's spidey string






















just kidding:biggthumpup::Banane19:

[xeon]

well my bailing method did not work all so great yesterday.. MAKE SURE TO KICK UR SKI FAR ENOUGH AWAY!!!! i dident and landed on my side rails and cut my shin open, and its swollen up REAL good now

[WaveDemon]

listen to pete. kick off to the side. if you kick the ski infront of you while jumping forward you've got a good chance of landing on it.

[RedBullJunky]

never let go

[ThinMint]

practice doing big throws on flatwater...and you'll steadily learn the trick but also you'll know when and where to kick in bad situations

[five0addict]

http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/five0addict/pismooctfourten/?action=view&current=a662dac2.pbw
how to bail seq

[BlowStuffUp]

jk is really good at bails. he does them very textbook. when youre in big surf you want to land close to the jet ski so that theres no swimming necesary to get to your ski. joe usually still has one hand still on the bars right up until he hit the water. controling your bails well helps not to destroy your ski. mike serlin bails pretty well too. he went on a bailing spree a while back and good at it.

[crazy4sand]

another thing is try to make sure the pole isnt extended

[crazyass911]

well another way is to jump the ******** off or to push the bitch away from you ive tryed holding on and had the ski and on top of me and that mad my had go from good to very very bad.

[ski4]

i try to go down with the ship
i like knowing where the ski is

however madmat is a pro at the throw away ( :shhh: i think he likes to do it LOL):silly::bigok:

one time i didn't have control of the ski in a fall and now have a busted up nose and cheek to remember it by:icon16: hmmmmmm that was on matts ski............ may his ski likes to be thrown away?

[ridethelip]

http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/five0addict/pismooctfourten/?action=view&current=a662dac2.pbw
how to bail seq
Hello, looks like a great way to spend the next weekend with the west systems epoxy repairing or you could go retro and turn your rn into a square nose. Letting go is a very last resort.

[NJrider]

Bailing sucks. Im not a big fan of it anymore since the D slicker ride.

[227]

I never let go when I bail, and I’ve bailed a lot! The last time my ski got away from me it was ripped from my cold hard hands with the grips still in my hand. That same day I also ordered ODI’s! I’ll take a 15’ under rotated BF pancake any day over losing my ski and not knowing if it’s going to lawn dart me in the gut or the spine! Still not convinced? Just PM Matt Smith and ask him about his experience with an inverted- shove it- take it in the Liver throw away!

[yamaslut]

I never let go when I bail, and I’ve bailed a lot! The last time my ski got away from me it was ripped from my cold hard hands with the grips still in my hand. That same day I also ordered ODI’s! I’ll take a 15’ under rotated BF pancake any day over losing my ski and not knowing if it’s going to lawn dart me in the gut or the spine! Still not convinced? Just PM Matt Smith and ask him about his experience with an inverted- shove it- take it in the Liver throw away!

yup... never let go!!!! Things get hairy when ya do...

[five0addict]

Hello, looks like a great way to spend the next weekend with the west systems epoxy repairing or you could go retro and turn your rn into a square nose. Letting go is a very last resort.

repairing what? my skis done plenty rider free landings and im sure the ones where im still attached hurt it way more. if your thinking the nose will get bashed, just think if it had 150lbs more inertia and a fingerfull of throttle.
for the real diggers i installed a carbon nose peice along with full reinforcement. i will break before the ski.

seriously the only times i got hurt was from last second panic bails. now i hang on if im past the apex of the air, regardless. off the side never off the back

[Fearlessnuts]

http://a224.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_c4c3b6ad7a3b976753f3048488b5482f.jpg
Nothing huge there are many better examples

Here's a clean kung Fu dismount though.
http://a320.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_28512f45a3d5b14b232589ce18a6e8df.jpg

[Conquistador]

refer to avatar, hehe

[SJBrit]

yup... never let go!!!! Things get hairy when ya do...


:werd: The only times I hurt myself badly is from bailing. Like everyone says - push sideways. not forward. Skis are really freaking hard when you land on them.

[227]

[QUOTE=Fearlessnuts;586249]http://a224.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_c4c3b6ad7a3b976753f3048488b5482f.jpg
Nothing huge there are many better examples

HA HA HA ! Mark this picture is so classic! I've done this SOOOOO many times! Pretty soon we'll have the "Superman Barrel Roll" down!

[NJrider]

Pretty soon we'll have the "Superman Barrel Roll" down!

Theres an Idea for ya ross. :arms:

[Lake Erie Monster]

the last time i fell off my 550 b4 i got the lanyard i was lucky to get the ski back. i made it a habit of holding on but that time the grip came off and it kept going. it actually managed to circle back to me though

[Conquistador]

the last time i fell off my 550 b4 i got the lanyard i was lucky to get the ski back. i made it a habit of holding on but that time the grip came off and it kept going. it actually managed to circle back to me though

they were designed to circle back to you.

[djkorn1]

I bail if I think I am gonna hit bottom hard (thats pretty often where I ride. It's shallow)

Madmat does the same thing...7 or 8 feet of air in 6 inches of water is just B A D.

[wydopen]

shouldn't have bailed on this one..i felt like i was going to case the top of the tube but i probably could have stuck it still

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/WYDOPEN/picspismo12-07016-1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/WYDOPEN/picspismo12-07017.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/WYDOPEN/picspismo12-07018.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/WYDOPEN/picspismo12-07019.jpg

[yamaslut]

that looked like it may have been painful, but sweet air though

:bananajump:

[WaveDemon]

first shot is sweet!

[WaveDemon]

I bail if I think I am gonna hit bottom hard (thats pretty often where I ride. It's shallow)

Madmat does the same thing...7 or 8 feet of air in 6 inches of water is just B A D.bailing in 6 inches of water sucks too. :dunce:

[227]

[QUOTE=wydopen;587928]shouldn't have bailed on this one..i felt like i was going to case the top of the tube but i probably could have stuck it still

Andrew that's a sweeeeet sequence!!!! I can even see your numb feet!!!!!LOL!!!!

[NaizaC]

video : YouTube - Eric Crosby Superjet Bail ... Hampton Beach, NH

[Mike Serlin]

here's one i like that ronny did...
I don't reccomend anybody do this cuz it is safer to hold on, but the trick is to not let go of the ski if its directly above you; duh. I kick with my feet and while holding onto the bars i sort of carry the ski next to me until it is safe to let go. If the ski stays above me I won't let go of the bars at all.

[XFT LOU]

I was practicing flat BR's for Wave rave '08, they're not ride plate landings but close. I just put in the high comp domes and 110 race gas and my body timing was off. The ski got away from me and landing on me. It broke my clavicle in half and smashed my face. If I miss my set up wake and know its not going well I allways hold on. BTW I had a open face on full face now on.

[jfw432]

video : YouTube - Eric Crosby Superjet Bail ... Hampton Beach, NH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mH1a828m7A)

That's usually my style of bail. The second landing done in the video is the kind that makes me wish I had bailed because those really rack my nuts.

I've only been hurt once trying to bail and that was because I didn't kick it far enough and my foot landed on the back edge of the tray. Nothing like a swollen arch. All other injuries have been related to slipping out of the footholds.

Since I've only ridden flatwater, the height isn't as great so the major injuries are fewer but I would think the response time is shorter and getting clear of the ski is also much harder to do. However, the good thing about flatwater is once you've bailed you don't have to worry about the ski getting swamped by the next wave. The side bail usually works well for me though.

[turbo626]

in that youtube video on this page, does anyone else see something fly off the front of the ski?

My favorite bail is the huge landing in Niagara i think it is paul Lear but not sure. He goes some 50 ft out and 20 ft up and lands still holding onto the bars but with both feet to the left side. I sure wouldn't want to lose my ski in THAT river.

[S*G]

haha i just fall and belly flop :thewave: