2008 super jet release date 8/20/07 12pm EST

[nikad58]

I hear through the grape vine from 2 very reliable sources about the new 2008 superjet..

I can't say a word about it but... Its all new !

Anyone else know anything they can post ?

[SuperJETT]

It's still rumor until we see pics.

[Prem1x]

It's still rumor until we see pics.
These day pics aren't all that reliable unless the source is.

[The Penguin]

I'll bet the graphics are both bold AND new!

[nikad58]

ok.. anyone have any info on the rumored ski ?

from what i heard.. there were no graphics (other than Yamaha) on it..

[MADMAT]

I have no info but I predict a fuel injected 850 on similar to current hull:barrel::barrel::barrel::barrel::barrel::barre l::barrel:

[SJBrit]

Heard the same thing a while back - all new, with a launch in the Fall....

[the only couch rider]

Heard the same thing a while back - all new, with a launch in the Fall....


x2

from what i understadn the only thing they did was keep the superjet name, everything else is completely different

[nikad58]

It is romored that a few are running on the water in the states as we speak !!

[WaveDemon]

why don't you guys post your rumors and see if they match up.

[MADMAT]

I will probably buy a brand new one when they come out. If it is what I think it will be.

[vitaly]

It's a 4-stroke!


If you don't believe me, ask Momar. :sneaky: :dunno:

[nikad58]

ok. I heard 2 stroke.. with two different sizes 701 or 760..
if 760 it has 61x cylinders..
one guy said 701 the other 760 both said 61x cylinders

[michael950]

From what I heard, it's going to be direct injected which sounds probable due to the CARB requirements.

Of course my info is hearsay from: 2008 Yamaha Superjet (http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=116088)

[WaveDemon]

ok. I heard 2 stroke.. with two different sizes 701 or 760..
if 760 it has 61x cylinders..
one guy said 701 the other 760 both said 61x cylinders

possibly a 701 with x cylinders? I can't wait!

[Matt_E]

possibly a 701 with x cylinders? I can't wait!

You think? :bigeyes:

OMG OMG OMG OMGWTFBBQ!!!!! ME SO EXCITED!!!

[WaveDemon]

why don't they just give us the pv800 with the same bottom deck...


that way we can buy the parts off the shelf to convert our old ones.

[shepster]

It's a 4-stroke!


If you don't believe me, ask Momar. :sneaky: :dunno:

Thats what i heard from a yammi rep other day at work :bigeyes:

[cdubb]

Im new to all this 61x 62t stuff,but I have a 05 completely stock bought new in january and it has 62t cases with a 61x cylinder. Is this not normal? The head says 64u as well as the stator cover,but stamped in the case is a 62t and the cylinder between the carbs has 61x.

[Matt_E]

That's the way it's been since '96.

[cdubb]

Im lost again.

[nikad58]

lol 62t cased either way..

either the same motor as we have now
or resleeved 760 (62t) with 61x specs to big bore up to 86mm..

[DAG]

hope the price of RN doesent drop like the price of the SN did o_0

[rebelwalker]

hope the price of RN doesent drop like the price of the SN did o_0

why?

[oxnard111]

hope the price of RN doesent drop like the price of the SN did o_0

I don't know how I feel about the price dropping either way... but I doubt it will. The round is a timeless machine that I believe will hold its value.

[nikad58]

ah oh... i might have said too much.. oh well... i got 3 e-mails (not even PM's) saying to keep it down but.... they all ready have thiers on order !!

Anyone want a smokin deal on a decked out 06' ?? (see "my ski") thread below for details !

http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=19319

[Boris]

Will the graphics be BOLD and NEW ???:banghead:


Yamaha seams to think it's the Rolls Royce of the watercraft scene, it's products are timeless.

[nikad58]

Rumor says... oh it might even have a 760 type cylinder with 61x porting specs and thicker sleeves to allow up to a 86mm bore... new bottom maybe top.. pole will change.. from what i heard was.. only the cases/crank will be left over from earler years.

I didnt hear anything about a 4 stroke or intake system

you guys are no fun.. someone has to know more !

[skinnyman]

I Know I am NOT starting over to much time/money in the two I have now


Only about 4 yrs late:banghead: good job factory Yamaha

[Big Kahuna]

Funny, this happens every year.......... Where is Momar.......... he may already have a deposit on it!!!!!!!!!!

;)

[nikad58]

Funny, this happens every year.......... Where is Momar.......... he may already have a deposit on it!!!!!!!!!!

;)

on PWC
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=116349

[willycrumb]

Its gonna have a supercharger

[Nascency Chris]

i heard its gonna have a "kart mode"...wait...wrong ski, sorry...:biggrin:

[Jr.]

I Know....... I Know.......... But I Can't :banghead:


Ronny,........... Care to help me out here ? :sneaky:

[WaveDemon]

I Know....... I Know.......... But I Can't :banghead:


Ronny,........... Care to help me out here ? :sneaky:

wow, looks like you are confirming some kind of change...

[vitaly]

I Know....... I Know.......... But I Can't :banghead:


Ronny,........... Care to help me out here ? :sneaky:
Paul KNOWS!
Grab him!!!!!

[SJBrit]

I Know....... I Know.......... But I Can't :banghead:


Ronny,........... Care to help me out here ? :sneaky:

OK, if you don't tell us we're going to kidnap Kathy and her Brownie recipe.... :sneaky: And don't call the cops, or we're taking the mac and cheese too :bigeyes:

[SuperJETT]

My LPW 760 will still kick it's butt.

[madoyster]

It would seem there are a few peeps on the board who really have the scoop on this one.:Banane01:

[oxnard111]

It would seem there are a few peeps on the board who really have the scoop on this one.:Banane01:

and oh yes there are... if they only could...

[WaveDemon]

someone pm me I'll gladly be the leak.

[Nascency Chris]

I Know....... I Know.......... But I Can't :banghead:


Ronny,........... Care to help me out here ? :sneaky:

thats just wrong...

you tease...:biggrin:

[nikad58]

someone say pre-preg ?

:brap::bs2::bigeyes::hail::sneaky::woot::Banane01: :haha::fingersx:

not

[willycrumb]

What....you guys dont believe me that its supercharged?

[oxnard111]

What....you guys dont believe me that its supercharged?

i bet is has a turbo and nitrous

[Wattage]

Hmmm, I have an inkling that it will be a something along the lines of the Rius edition superjet with a new bottom deck, same top deck and still the 701.

Now, only time will tell....:)

[wydopen]

Hmmm, I have an inkling that it will be a something along the lines of the Rius edition superjet with a new bottom deck, same top deck and still the 701.

Now, only time will tell....:)

BINGO

[RonnyMac]

Yup, the source cant get more reliable. 08 will have an all new Super Jet! :woot:
Cant say much. Just that its sounds like its gonna be incredible!
Stay tuned to the X. We'll let you know what we can, when we can, as soon as we can. I'll def be trying to get some spy photos too! :cool2:

[nikad58]

Yup, the source cant get more reliable. 08 will have an all new Super Jet! :woot:
Cant say much. Just that its sounds like its gonna be incredible!
Stay tuned to the X. We'll let you know what we can, when we can, as soon as we can. I'll def be trying to get some spy photos too! :cool2:


ok I think we have a way.. do you still have that long lens ? I have a few address, all's we need to do is come up with money to charter a helicopter and pay you to spy !!

hehehe

[jeepmark4x4]

i heard its gonna have a "kart mode"...wait...wrong ski, sorry...:biggrin:

haha okay now thats funny :haha::haha::haha::haha:

[CoreyLKN]

Yup, the source cant get more reliable. 08 will have an all new Super Jet! :woot:
Cant say much. Just that its sounds like its gonna be incredible!
Stay tuned to the X. We'll let you know what we can, when we can, as soon as we can. I'll def be trying to get some spy photos too! :cool2:

Awesome!!!:biggthumpup:

[Cross]

I am going to go out on a limb and say that the hull will be something like was Rius has been using for a couple of years over in Europe for the GP class. Here is a link to some photos and article from a reporter in Greece. You can use Babelfish to translate it to English.


http://www.jetskiworld.gr/articleview_gallery.php?id=1066

[Prem1x]

I wonder if they will lower the handlepole pivot back down. Dumbest thing they ever did was to raise it.

[T Curtis]

Its Going To Be Good!

[MattSmith]

The dude that rode the 08 liked it a lot. makes me think of even switching to yamaha. the all new bottom deck is what i'm excited about.

[vitaly]

$14,000? :bigeyes::dunno:

[Speedfreak]

I won't believe it till I see it. :frown: The only thing that the suits want to do is sell skis and to make a ski more powerfull and a tiny bit more stable won't sell to the masses like the SXR did. They will have to lower the price and increase stability. And have you even met an engineer that cared about weight... NO then the thing will weigh a freaking TON... and be strong enough to play chicken with a barge.

Ok my rant is over someone prove me wrong..... PLEASE

It doesn't matter I am still waiting to put my ADA motor in a Trinity hull

[32vickie]

the good new is when the 08 come out all of the 96 to 07 used prices will drop. Maybe it will be time to get a super jet next year. :arms:

[Big Kahuna]

on PWC
http://www.pwctoday.com/showthread.php?t=116349

Classic Momar Form!!!!!!!!!!

[Tuttle]

Dibs!!!

[SJBrit]

And have you even met an engineer that cared about weight...

Anyone who designs anything to fly, or go on an aircraft.

Anyone who designs anything to go into orbit.

Anyone who designs anything to be carried/worn by a person.

Anyone who designs vehicles propelled by a person.

Anyone who designs anything that has to be shipped somewhere.

Anyone who....

You get the idea. I never met an engineer who wasn't concerned with weight: that's a primary requirement for almost anything that's made, including the new SJ, one would suspect.

[Jr.]

I won't believe it till I see it. :frown: The only thing that the suits want to do is sell skis and to make a ski more powerfull and a tiny bit more stable won't sell to the masses like the SXR did. They will have to lower the price and increase stability. And have you even met an engineer that cared about weight... NO then the thing will weigh a freaking TON... and be strong enough to play chicken with a barge.

Ok my rant is over someone prove me wrong..... PLEASE

It doesn't matter I am still waiting to put my ADA motor in a Trinity hull



Well, I guess here is a little more.........................

This thing wasn't done by a "stuffed shirt" , It was done by a past world freestyle champ.... one of us!!!!
It's has basicly the same weight as todays SJ & is being deemed
"The best freeride hull ever produced" (I belive that statment means by an oem)
I don't think you have to worry about it being like the SX-r in any fashion!

[SkiDaddy]

Nice teaser there Paul.....:sneaky:

Whatever it's like, one important thing is that Yamaha isn't dropping our sport, and there will be Jet Skis in the future!:brap::brap::brap::brap:

[nikad58]

Any rumors on the engine ? fuel injected ? 4 stroke ? 701 ?
full spectrum's ?

[bbates]

Anyone have any pricing indications??? under 7k?

[yamaslut]

I can't wait to see this bad boy!!!!!!!!!!!

It will be a seriously huge upgrade to the current SJ...

Built for freeride... Could we ask for more???
:barrel::barrel::barrel::barrel:

[Prem1x]

We should be able to be told what the price point is.

[WaveDemon]

We should be able to be told what the price point is.

the pricing of the sxr won't let it go up much. :biggthumpup:

[Matt_E]

The pricing of the HS will. :biggthumpup:

[SkiDaddy]

"designed by past world freestyle champ" means it won't compete with the HS.:brap:

[superjet0587]

who designed it?

[bit]

Figures, I put out the money for a round nose and now the price may drop. Although if the new ski is a bust it will help RN prices stay up.

[Dirtybird]

More importantly, who's going to get the first one? :sneaky:

[willycrumb]

Anyone who designs anything to fly, or go on an aircraft.

Anyone who designs anything to go into orbit.

Anyone who designs anything to be carried/worn by a person.

Anyone who designs vehicles propelled by a person.

Anyone who designs anything that has to be shipped somewhere.

Anyone who....

You get the idea. I never met an engineer who wasn't concerned with weight: that's a primary requirement for almost anything that's made, including the new SJ, one would suspect.

anybody aisian

[Idok]

here's what a little birdie told me:

new bottom with SETBACK PUMP and INTAKE
old (or similar) topdeck
760 with 61x cyl/timing


rius is supposedly riding them in havasu already...rumor is there are 3 of them there....

[SJBrit]

Here you go: shipping in 2008....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Superjet_100

Look all new to me....

[superjet0587]

does that mean it comes with footholds from the factory if its designed for freestyle?

[WaveDemon]

here's what a little birdie told me:

new bottom with SETBACK PUMP and INTAKE
old (or similar) topdeck
760 with 61x cyl/timing


rius is supposedly riding them in havasu already...rumor is there are 3 of them there....

I like.

[yamaslut]

here's what a little birdie told me:

new bottom with SETBACK PUMP and INTAKE
old (or similar) topdeck
760 with 61x cyl/timing


rius is supposedly riding them in havasu already...rumor is there are 3 of them there....


not quite, but close
:purr:

[GDFL]

Here you go: shipping in 2008....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Superjet_100

Look all new to me....

I don't know about those air intakes.....looks like it could flood easily if subbed.

[willycrumb]

here's what a little birdie told me:

new bottom with SETBACK PUMP and INTAKE
old (or similar) topdeck
760 with 61x cyl/timing


rius is supposedly riding them in havasu already...rumor is there are 3 of them there....

Saw one a this past weekend.

[aqua]

Saw one a this past weekend.

well! comeon man!! let us know what you saw.

[SeaLion]

who designed it?

Scott Watkins probably.

[Dirtybird]

Sweet Jesus someone say something already. Seems like everyone knows except for like 8 people.

[yamaslut]

Saw one a this past weekend.

liar........





















:cool2:

[BossBailey]

What is the big deal about disclosing the info? This isn't top secret stuff its a JETSKI.

[willycrumb]

liar........





















:cool2:
Alright you got me. Im just having fun. Im sort of not a liar. I was in Havasu and I saw a guy riding a superjet that looked odd.

[WaveDemon]

I heard it looks like this:


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/358499789_d73d6864d9.jpg

[skinnyman]

:haha::haha:

[oxnard111]

I heard it looks like this:


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/358499789_d73d6864d9.jpg

I heard it doesn't

[SuperJETT]

Bigger engine, better hull, etc etc, and tons of people are going to make the switch, guaranteed.

Oh, and momar is wrong as usual.

[nikad58]

What is the big deal about disclosing the info? This isn't top secret stuff its a JETSKI.


What are you new ? sheeeesh J/K
I can tell you something.. If I lived where you do.. awww nevermind !

[wydopen]

I heard it looks like this:


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/358499789_d73d6864d9.jpg

lets hope not :cool2:

[xpfanatic]

Is the price going to jump up for it or is it going to stay similar to the 07 models?

[BossBailey]

What are you new ? sheeeesh J/K
I can tell you something.. If I lived where you do.. awww nevermind !

I know the Yamaha plant is 5 mins down the road from my house. I just don't care if they change it. I have an 06 similiar to the one you are selling so I won't be buying a new one. Knowing what I know now I would probably not buy a new one anyways. I would buy an aftermarket hull and build it up. Buy the time you buy a new superjet and junk half the parts for aftermarket stuff you could build up an AM hull.

[nikad58]

Is the price going to jump up for it or is it going to stay similar to the 07 models?

hahahahahaha

[DAG]

Is the price going to jump up for it or is it going to stay similar to the 07 models?

bigger motor better hull, the price will deff go up... and if it the same as an 07 the RN price will drop thousands..

is someone going to make a new thread once its released, i see this threading getting to 200 pages b4 its ever released..:banghead:

[SuperJETT]

is someone going to make a new thread once its released, i see this threading getting to 200 pages b4 its ever released..:banghead:

Hopefully sooner than you think. I have 4 helicopters chartered every week this summer with 20,000mm lens cameras.

[Dirtybird]

Hopefully sooner than you think. I have 4 helicopters chartered every week this summer with 20,000mm lens cameras.

:sneaky:

[michael950]

Tweet tweet, Tweet tweet!!!


I heard from a bird that the word is ... I wish I had saved my money for a rainy day.

[nikad58]

:sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:

[h2odesperado]

how do all the people that know about it know what they know? I can understand paul knowing, but how the heck does everyone (it seems) know?????
AND WHY DON'T I

[Matt_E]

You're the only one that doesn't.

[Boris]

I don't know a thing.

Seeing as how I have 17 year old square I'm not one to ride the "I've got to have the latest and greatest" wave but am still some what curious.

Years of waiting for a new GPR from Yamaha (even after many reassurances from the ones "in the know") has taught me better though.

[nikad58]

Rumors... only rumors... fact will be known soon !
Wellllll I just got off the phone with someone i suspect has one.. he wouldn't confirm or deny having one, only a very long pause.. I will start with the powerplant questions.. After 15 or so minutes of shooting the ********tt he told me straight out 701cc ( he could have said unknown).. After him talking/fighting with Yamaha Japan for the past year the power plant will stay the same 701 as it has been for warranty reasons.. to go bigger they felt a new drive shaft, waterbox, exhaust, motor mounts, etc. would have to be designed/built and would raise the price up.. They want to stay within the SXR price with a bullet prof ski !

More on the hull later !

[willycrumb]

:reporter::shhh: Soon when. Yamamha already released info on everything else.

[nikad58]

see page 8 !

[SJ/XPBri]

Time to post whore guys, we need to get to page 8
Nikad those appear to be flying rumors in my sig

[Boris]

Time to post whore guys, we need to get to page 8
Nikad those appear to be flying rumors in my sig

x2:biggthumpup:

[willycrumb]

:splatt::brap::barrel::splatt::woot::brap::barrel: :barrel::barrel::barrel::barrel::barrel::barrel:

[CoreyLKN]

I think it needs footholds straight from the factory:brap:

[RonnyMac]

how do all the people that know about it know what they know? I can understand paul knowing, but how the heck does everyone (it seems) know?????
AND WHY DON'T I
I was with Paul when we heard it from the horses mouth at the Southern Fried Freeride. We remained calm about it until we were alone. LOL!!!

[Boris]

and a scupper. :biggthumpup:

[meatball]

I think it needs to cost $5

[meatball]

:biggthumpup:

[Boris]

will the hull be black or more of that boring white ?

[carpanthers555]

It needs holds, scupper, and bilge.
i won't be able to buy one anyways but those would definetely save ALOT of time and money.

[meatball]

I heard it used a 3D engine but with only standup mode. It also cures AIDS and cancer.

[SJ/XPBri]

I heard it used a 3D engine but with only standup mode. It also cures AIDS and cancer.

I Agree, BTW use bigger font, we'll get to page 8 faster :arms:

[CoreyLKN]

I think that nobody knows the truth.

You all are liars:cool2:




:biggrin:

[Boris]

I bet Chuck Norris knows :splatt:

[cdubb]

:splatt: just trying to help out

[tursiops93]

Unless I am mistaken, I believe there are 20 posts per page, regardless of font size???

[Boris]

Can
we
start
a
rumor
for 09
?

[cdubb]

Hmm is it really 20 posts??








I dont believe ya. Lets see

[CoreyLKN]

Page






8




here




we







come:woot:

[SJ/XPBri]

Unless I am mistaken, I believe there are 20 posts per page, regardless of font size???
^^
I think he's right :frown:

[michael950]

I'm only on page 4, but I can't wait to ride one...


The only thing I will say is there is some truth to the rumors that are floating in this thread. I know, because my sister's friend's cousin has a partner that works at Yamaha in GA. This thing is legit!!!!

[tursiops93]

So what is the big deal over a new 08 anyways? Is it the fact that it will be different/unique? It sounds like the motor will be the same.

[carpanthers555]

So what is the big deal over a new 08 anyways?


Only the special people know, and that is not me.:banghead: I wish I did.

[nikad58]

okok... page 8.. you guys just zipped through the 2 pages like it was only a few ticks with a finger ! very very good !! :haha::haha::haha::haha:
You will be rewarded with a piece of info not ever seen in this thread !!
Great job guys !!



































its white ! :shocked::shocked:

[michael950]

okok... page 8.. you guys just zipped through the 2 pages like it was only a few ticks with a finger ! very very good !! :haha::haha::haha::haha:
You will be rewarded with a piece of info not ever seen in this thread !!
Great job guys !!


its white ! :shocked::shocked:


That's it, I'm buying one...

[meatball]

Its page 8 already?

[michael950]

I'm still on page 4

[meatball]

Colors arent news to me. Thats about as newsworthy as BNG

[turbohatch3]

im gonna start saving my pennies

[Boris]

So by page 12 we'll find out that the hull is SMC. :cheer:

3 :cheer: to Yamaha

[SeaLion]

You mean it's not TexaFAILium like the HS? :)

[keefer]

:popcorn::popcorn::bsflag:SUCKERS:sneaky:

[pyro723]

:popcorn:

[vomitspot]

and to think i thought for a second... sell the lamey. theres a new sj
dont do the 66e conversion theres a new sj...bummer same old seven o one
but hey if its still the 701 then there is still tons of parts to fit it!

[Boris]

page 8 :Banane01:

[michael950]

and to think i thought for a second... sell the lamey. theres a new sj
dont do the 66e conversion theres a new sj...bummer same old seven o one
but hey if its still the 701 then there is still tons of parts to fit it!

Don't sell the lamey, keep it. It should fit, sell the rest. No need for a 66e.


To all the naysayers... you too shall see.

[pyro723]

I think eveyone with a lamey should sell them. :sneaky: Really cheep.... There not worth anything now. So I'll take someones for 100.00 :sneaky:

[nikad58]

1. SMC/Hand lay ? rumor say... dunno
2. Set back pump.. rumor says.. no
3. hood/pole.. rumor says... should change but looks close
4. NEW hull.. rumor says.. yes !!
5. New stickers.. rumor says yes !!
6. complete drive line stays the same.. rumors say.. booooo !

I just was at my friends house (factory Yamaha off roader) and we shot a e-mail off to a Yamaha international Honcho in Cypress Calif. for a list of changes for the 08' !! I should have a list very soon (this week !)

[Boris]

I just was at my friends house (factory Yamaha off roader) and we shot a e-mail off to a Yamaha international Honcho in Cypress Calif. for a list of changes for the 08' !! I should have a list very soon (this week !)

Why didn't you just ask for a complete ski and compare your self ??:dunno:

[nikad58]

geeeez.. thats asking alot ! I'm a nobody !!!
Now if my friend that only rides dirt bikes fior them wants one.. :thewave: :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:

[michael950]

1. SMC/Hand lay ? rumor say... dunno
2. Set back pump.. rumor says.. no
3. hood/pole.. rumor says... should change but looks close
4. NEW hull.. rumor says.. yes !!
5. New stickers.. rumor says yes !!
6. complete drive line stays the same.. rumors say.. booooo !

I just was at my friends house (factory Yamaha off roader) and we shot a e-mail off to a Yamaha international Honcho in Cypress Calif. for a list of changes for the 08' !! I should have a list very soon (this week !)



I think you'll be surprised at what you find.

[DAG]

page 8 :Banane01:

192 more pages to go:banghead:

[Gainera2582]

I think you'll be surprised at what you find.

So you know something I take it?



Why doesn't somebody just spill the beans and get it over with.

[DAG]

someone creat a new account, run to your local libary and spill the beans,
i'll even do the hard part for you. your name shall be "2008 SuperJet Press Release"

[Speedfreak]

I wish someone would let it out also. I need to know so that I can be dissapointed like I was when the last "NEW STAND UP" hit the market... the 3D:bs2:

[keegan]

ill PAY someone to tell me....

and then ill post it word for word...:arms:


but seriously...it will get around sometime. secrets are always like this, you want to keep it from peeps, but after some time it doesnt really matter and it will let loose...

[RiverRat]

Interesting :smile: Too bad I can't stomach a stock boat anymore...:biggrin:

[BossBailey]

I'm still on page 4

X2

I just played the Yamaha softball team in Kennesaw, GA just two weeks ago. I wish we would have had this discussion back then. I could have taken a list of questions, and I would not be scared to tell everyone.

[Matt_E]

Interesting :smile: Too bad I can't stomach a stock boat anymore...:biggrin:

True, but it might be here before yours is all together. :haha: :biggthumpup:

[aqua]

i have thought about this whole new sj thing and here is my take. if the drive line stays the same or even if it is a 760 w/ 61x port timing i would be keeping my engines instead. so lets see here. brand new sj prolly around 7 grand. with a new stock motor i could probably sell my 04 sj for 3 grand. that means i would have to come up with $4000 for a new sj hull....i would be swapping engines with my current setup. well for a little more than that i could had a watercraft factory hull that would probably weigh less.

[Scorn800]

I'd really like Yamaha to coming out with something new but I'm still thinking it's just going to be BNG

[yankeeboy]

oohh i cant wait. Once this comes out, all you guys with suped-up Rn's will maybe want to sell em. then guys like me that cant afford an '08, will have the pick of the litter of your old Rn beasts :biggthumpup::sneaky:

[Rickster]

Interesting :smile: Too bad I can't stomach a stock boat anymore...:biggrin:

You also cannot control an AM hull until you get a polei.:biggthumpup:

JK...:sneaky:

[yamaslut]

oohh i cant wait. Once this comes out, all you guys with suped-up Rn's will maybe want to sell em. then guys like me that cant afford an '08, will have the pick of the litter of your old Rn beasts :biggthumpup::sneaky:

yup.... my ******** will be for sale

[Matt_E]

yup.... my ******** will be for sale

Coming from the guy that went from Square to Round, then proclaimed they're over-rated. :arms:

[yamaslut]

Coming from the guy that went from Square to Round, then proclaimed they're over-rated. :arms:

they are....

wait till the new one comes out... It will make the old superjet look like a 550....

[Matt_E]

they are....

wait till the new one comes out... It will make the old superjet look like a 550....

I have a hard time seeing that with the same ole same ole driveline.

A new hull isn't going to be worth it to me with the same driveline.

[yamaslut]

its not the same driveline.

it's a 4 stroke

nope

[SuperJETT]

its not the same driveline.

it's a 4 stroke

Someone let Edwin know that momar hacked his account.:brap:

[vitaly]

they are....

wait till the new one comes out... It will make the old superjet look like a 550....

Twice "bigger and better"? :sneaky:

[vitaly]

you people dont know anything

yamaha called me and told me
It's been in my avatar for a year already. :brap:

[willycrumb]

Someone let Edwin know that momar hacked his account.:brap:


:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::h aha::haha:
You so funny guy Jett.

[SeaLion]

Someone let Edwin know that momar hacked his account.:brap:

Shh. You might awaken the giant?

[MADMAT]

Yamaha has seen first hand,for the first time I'm guessing, what is going on in the sport. They are going to cater to it. I say they are going to shave some LB's and give her some brapability.

[willycrumb]

I doubt it. I dont they they care to much whats going on it the "sport". I think they care about being competitive to an SXR on the track. I doubt freeride was in there minds very much. But Im just guessing.

[Dirtybird]

I hear it's got a trim system on it from the factory.. :sneaky:

[SJBrit]

I doubt it. I dont they they care to much whats going on it the "sport". I think they care about being competitive to an SXR on the track. I doubt freeride was in there minds very much. But Im just guessing.

Whether or not it was in their minds when they designed the '08 Superjet, it's definitely on their minds after their participation in the Allatoona freeride.

[Big Kahuna]

I doubt it. I dont they they care to much whats going on it the "sport". I think they care about being competitive to an SXR on the track. I doubt freeride was in there minds very much. But Im just guessing.

Nope, they do not care for racing......... Look at the runabouts, they use to dominate the 1200 class, now, they do not offer anything....... Not even a 4stroke is being raced by anybody.............

This will not be a "wet" type hull like the SXR is.

[Matt_E]

This will not be a "wet" type hull like the SXR is.

What do you mean? :dunno:

[waxhead]

i have heard same top deck and different bottom
701
As long as you can still throw it around i will be happy
i thought maybe we were getting a new pump as well but it seems not

[willycrumb]

Whether or not it was in their minds when they designed the '08 Superjet, it's definitely on their minds after their participation in the Allatoona freeride.

Why...anybody who is the chit in freeride is not using a Yamaha hull and the ones that are are heavily modified. Almost nothing to do with stock. They couldnt make a factory freeride ski..it would cost as much as a Hydrospace.

[willycrumb]

Nope, they do not care for racing.........

Yeah but they cant ignore the increase in racing with the SXR and they want a piece of the pie. I didnt say they were gonna go race it but they want people to buy it and go race.

[SJBrit]

Why...anybody who is the chit in freeride is not using a Yamaha hull and the ones that are are heavily modified. Almost nothing to do with stock. They couldnt make a factory freeride ski..it would cost as much as a Hydrospace.

Because they see that freeriding is a rapidly growing sector of the sport that's getting a lot of attention.

[wydopen]

Why...anybody who is the chit in freeride is not using a Yamaha hull and the ones that are are heavily modified. Almost nothing to do with stock. They couldnt make a factory freeride ski..it would cost as much as a Hydrospace.

most surf riders are running oem hulls no need for aftermarket huls in the surf imo

[JetPilot]

a buddy of mine has a relative who works at the plant on the yamaha assembly line. he was able to get a pic of the new '08. Please see below








































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[nikad58]

Romor say... The new hull is to be said 2.5 mph faster in all conditions than the old hull and turn SXR like.. It would seem racing does have a impact !

Seems odd that Yamaha would try and retool/design and spit out a new superjet in less than 6 months into a gamble of free ride ! if it was for free ride they could have done more... or did they ? It would have been just fine to beef up the old hull, lower hood/pole and call it the FRSJ..

Above picture Looks like a 07' to me ! ohhhh thats what you have.. lol mine is just like that but with a parachute !

[Millertime]

I predict a SXR type bottom with very similar top deck and same motor, carbs,and electronics. the Hull will be good but it is not going to be a SXR killer on the course with the 701.

[sjetrider]

Why...anybody who is the chit in freeride is not using a Yamaha hull and the ones that are are heavily modified. Almost nothing to do with stock. They couldnt make a factory freeride ski..it would cost as much as a Hydrospace.

This is preciseley why they need to change. No they cannot make a ready to go freeride boat and no one ever has (excluding Malones $31,000 "production boat"). They also have never made a ready to race boat, Polaris tried, hydrospace tried, but no dice. But they take some of the ideas from the changes made in the aftermarket world and use them. Like less weight, more HP, stronger handle pole or just a bottom deck design change to make the over all platform the platform of choice to a freerider or a racer that will draw attention to thier product. Kawasaki does well with this in racing but Yamaha doesnt seem to care about either anymore they are stagnet. We will be piecing old SJ parts together forever it seems.

[willycrumb]

Millertime-The rules allow a few mods to make the top speeds comprable.

SJBrit and WYDOPEN I guess we will just half to agree to disagree. Well find out shortling who's right or if we are just wasting our breathe cus its nothing.

[wydopen]

Millertime-The rules allow a few mods to make the top speeds comprable.

SJBrit and WYDOPEN I guess we will just half to agree to disagree. Well find out shortling who's right or if we are just wasting our breathe cus its nothing.

im agreeing..they wont make a specific freeride boat..i was just saying that most peole that are the "chit" in surfriding dont use or need to use an am hull..i know those euro guys do but they have a very differnt style (all air) than us imo...

[Dirtybird]

a buddy of mine has a relative who works at the plant on the yamaha assembly line. he was able to get a pic of the new '08. Please see below









29859

That's tight! :haha:

[SJBrit]

SJBrit and WYDOPEN I guess we will just half to agree to disagree. Well find out shortling who's right or if we are just wasting our breathe cus its nothing.

I don't disagree with you - Yamaha didn't really get connected to the freeride thing till a couple of months ago, so there's no way that figured into their thinking for the '08. I have no idea what the '08 will be, nor any predictions, beyond the fact that it's a major rev, and not just BNG.

I doubt freeride was in there minds very much. But Im just guessing.

For sure, but....

Whether or not it was in their minds when they designed the '08 Superjet, it's definitely on their minds after their participation in the Allatoona freeride.

[superramjet]

this is what i heard

production
500 for the states, 1500 overseas 2000 total
same 701 motor for united states, 760 piston in 61x cylinders for overseas
new prop
shorter driveshaft
bottom is different tapers in, in the middle but same length
top is same
black top, white bottom, fiberglass resin and cloth is black , no more scratches
Rius is running one right now, in overseas competition

Msrp $6400

I was told it handles better that the old sj in the corners with less "slide out" and is marginally faster.


But wait: Something more exciting Yamaha has a sport class boat again real similar to the new x2 in size and it has the 800 66e motor in it But it will only be for overseas buyers

I also heard all about some new supercharged 4 stroke sitdown that supposed to be really fast, but due to my runabout a.d.d. i didn't listen to well about it.

[willycrumb]

But wait: Something more exciting Yamaha has a sport class boat again real similar to the new x2 in size and it has the 800 66e motor in it But it will only be for overseas buyers



The TZ800(blaster3) or something else?

[superramjet]

something else, not the blaster 3

[CoreyLKN]

this is what i heard

production
500 for the states, 1500 overseas 2000 total
same 701 motor for united states, 760 piston in 61x cylinders for overseas
new prop
shorter driveshaft
bottom is different tapers in, in the middle but same length
top is same
black top, white bottom, fiberglass resin and cloth is black , no more scratches
Rius is running one right now, in overseas competition

Msrp $6400

I was told it handles better that the old sj in the corners with less "slide out" and is marginally faster.


But wait: Something more exciting Yamaha has a sport class boat again real similar to the new x2 in size and it has the 800 66e motor in it But it will only be for overseas buyers

I also heard all about some new supercharged 4 stroke sitdown that supposed to be really fast, but due to my runabout a.d.d. i didn't listen to well about it.

That doesnt seem like alot for the US. Thats enough for the members of this site.

[MADMAT]

I don't think prices of freeride built SJ's will drop. Whatever they come out with won't be able to touch a built ski as far as funtionality for most of us.

I won't be selling mine but I may buy a brand new one if they are sick!! And then attack it with a sawzall:Banane01:

[willycrumb]

I believe that is double of what they are doing now. 250 is what I remember for some reason.

[turbohatch3]

this is so much bullcrap on what these major oem builders are doing to this sport. they dont listen to their customers nor do they supply enough product. 500 superjets......thats 10 per state. why would they only want to sell 500 in the US, thats not even worth building. i actually had the thought that i might get to buy one of these, i highly doubt it now. bs bs bs

[WaveDemon]

But wait: Something more exciting Yamaha has a sport class boat again real similar to the new x2 in size and it has the 800 66e motor in it But it will only be for overseas buyers

interesting.

[turbohatch3]

wow, i bitch to much

[SuperJETT]

this is so much bullcrap on what these major oem builders are doing to this sport. they dont listen to their customers nor do they supply enough product. 500 superjets......thats 10 per state. why would they only want to sell 500 in the US, thats not even worth building. i actually had the thought that i might get to buy one of these, i highly doubt it now. bs bs bs

Most dealers won't even place an order for a standup anymore. You produce what you think your dealers will buy and the customers after that. 500 is healthy to start with.

[turbohatch3]

i know i tried to buy one about 2 months ago and no dealer could get me one, again this is new and will be sold out before they even hit the dealerships

[bit]

superramjet,
So what you are saying everything is basically the same except for a impeller and a slightly reshaped hull. What is the big deal? Everyone is acting like the world is coming to an end.

[meatball]

It comes with an optional jesus sidekick.

[onesojourner]

new superjet? ha. ha...

[vitaly]

Nope, they do not care for racing......... Look at the runabouts, they use to dominate the 1200 class, now, they do not offer anything....... Not even a 4stroke is being raced by anybody.............

This will not be a "wet" type hull like the SXR is.
Hmm... as far as I remember Kawi STX and Sea-Doo XPL dominated the 1200 class until Rius showed up on his $50,000 factory Yamaha GPR once or twice.

[keegan]

this thread is getting pointless...

[Speedfreak]

What is the big deal? Everyone is acting like the world is coming to an end.

I agree, like my last post they won't build anything that we WANT because it won't sell to the public. The public needs a fun easy to ride ski. And the main thing is a price tag that is under the kawasaki. How many people do you know that bought a new SXR. And when you ask why not a SJ, their reasoning was "because it was cheaper than the SJ's"

I know of 3 or more.. come to think of it there might be 5 that used that excuse. In a riding group of about 10.

[Mark44]

I agree, like my last post they won't build anything that we WANT because it won't sell to the public. The public needs a fun easy to ride ski. And the main thing is a price tag that is under the kawasaki. How many people do you know that bought a new SXR. And when you ask why not a SJ, their reasoning was "because it was cheaper than the SJ's"

I know of 3 or more.. come to think of it there might be 5 that used that excuse. In a riding group of about 10.

Cheep azzes. :biggrin:

Mark44

[wydopen]

well a alittle off topic but i met someone yesterday thats been involved in racing for along time...they just got a call yesterday that someone has a 4stroke in their workshop...its a kawi though:sneaky:

[djkorn1]

Well, this is what we know.

1. There will be a new 2008 Superjet
2. It will not be a 4 stroke
3. It will have a new hull
4. It was designed by an ex-pro-freestyler.

(Nothing else has been confirmed as "for-sure" on here).

I called Yamaha Corporate personally and NOBODY knows anything. I talked to about 10 people. They say that NOBODY is allowed to talk to the design teams. There are NO pictures floating around Yamaha Corporate. All they know is new Superjet. :smile:

[sjetrider]

new superjet? ha. ha...

oxymorron LOL

[sjetrider]

Well, this is what we know.

1. There will be a new 2008 Superjet
2. It will not be a 4 stroke
3. It will have a new hull
4. It was designed by an ex-pro-freestyler.

(Nothing else has been confirmed as "for-sure" on here).

I called Yamaha Corporate personally and NOBODY knows anything. I talked to about 10 people. They say that NOBODY is allowed to talk to the design teams. There are NO pictures floating around Yamaha Corporate. All they know is new Superjet. :smile:

YEP, BOLD NEW GRAPHICS ring a bell???????????????????

[nikad58]

Well, this is what we know.

1. There will be a new 2008 Superjet
2. It will not be a 4 stroke
3. It will have a new hull
4. It was designed by an ex-pro-freestyler.

(Nothing else has been confirmed as "for-sure" on here).

I called Yamaha Corporate personally and NOBODY knows anything. I talked to about 10 people. They say that NOBODY is allowed to talk to the design teams. There are NO pictures floating around Yamaha Corporate. All they know is new Superjet. :smile:

wait.. we dont know anything really.. this is all pre production (prototype) as anyone knows, anything can happen before production !! We might even get another dressed up 1996 !!! I heard IT hasn't even hit the line yet !

[JetPilot]

new superjet? ha. ha...

oxymorron LOL

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

[sjetrider]

wait.. we dont know anything really.. this is all pre production (prototype) as anyone knows, anything can happen before production !! We might even get another dressed up 1996 !!! I heard IT hasn't even hit the line yet !

bold new graphics :biggthumpup:

[djkorn1]

Believe what you want... Paul wouldn't BS us.

oxymorron LOL

[Millertime]

We will all find out at WF's is my bet.

[JetPilot]

We will all find out at WF's is my bet.

x2

[michael950]

We will all find out at WF's is my bet.

Rumor mill says it was at world finals last year, you probably walked right past it and didn't realize it.

[mudphish]

The cat is not out of the bag!

I hold the cat that is in the bag...



and he aint gettin out....

[Matt_E]

The cat is not out of the bag!

I hold the cat that is in the bag...



and he aint gettin out....

Is he fighting?

[WAB]

Does the cat come with tubbies??

[JetPilot]

does this cat have a name... :purr:

[stanton]

people know but wont tell?? why all the secrecy??

[WaveDemon]

The cat is not out of the bag!

I hold the cat that is in the bag...



and he aint gettin out....when is the scheduled release of the cat?

[vitaly]

when is the scheduled release of the cat?
September 3008.

[sjetrider]

The cat is not out of the bag!

I hold the cat that is in the bag...



and he aint gettin out....

BOLD NEW GRAPHICS









































































OOOPS LET THE CAT OUT

[willycrumb]

people know but wont tell?? why all the secrecy??

Its called a confindentiality agreement. You sign it you can play with cool stuff. You talk about it and you get sued. Thats why I find it hard to believe anything that has been said in this thread or somebody is sweating bullets hopeing they dont get fingered as leaking the info.

[djkorn1]

Fuel injected 760 with about 125 stock hp??? :cool2::cool2:

....just messin with you guys. (would be cool though)

[madoyster]

It was tested last winter at Allatoona, the Yamaha watercraft division is just down the road from the freeride campground. You see all kinds of stuff up at the Lake during the Winter months. You just have to know where to look.

[SeaLion]

Is it going to be FI? It would almost have to be for emission reasons? Maybe low production numbers can get them around that or emission credits from the rest of the line that is 4 stroke or FI 2 stroke?

[stanton]

Its called a confindentiality agreement. You sign it you can play with cool stuff. You talk about it and you get sued. Thats why I find it hard to believe anything that has been said in this thread or somebody is sweating bullets hopeing they dont get fingered as leaking the info.

that explains why they are told to not say ********, but not why its held a secret. what company would give a sh!t that yamaha is finally revamping a somewhat dated ski!
all i needed to hear was from TC on pg3. :biggthumpup:

[yamaslut]

If you don't think Yamaha likes this Buzzzzzzz, you are smokin crack...

I seriously doubt anyone has actually seen it, just a lot of logical assumptions on what they will do going on here.... There are only so many things that could be changed...

It's either:

bigger / smaller
heavier / lighter / same weight
4 stoke / 2 stroke
larger cc / same cc
different top deck / same top deck
differnent bottom deck / same bottom deck
new pump / same old pump
new composites / same SMC constructionother than those factors, really what else is there to change???
my picks are in bold

[Frosty]

The only reason i can see them changing anything at this point is because they are no longer available to sell in Cali or New York as new skis (due to emmisions laws). Not sure how state sales breakdown, but i gotta figure with the populations of both Cali and NY they've gotta be feeling that hit.

The only way for me to buy a new SJ in NY is to have someone out of state buy one and sell it to me as a used ski... :bs2:

[Big Kahuna]

If you don't think Yamaha likes this Buzzzzzzz, you are smokin crack...

I seriously doubt anyone has actually seen it, just a lot of logical assumptions on what they will do going on here.... There are only so many things that could be changed...

It's either:

bigger / smaller
heavier / lighter / same weight
4 stoke / 2 stroke
larger cc / same cc
different top deck / same top deck
differnent bottom deck / same bottom deck
new pump / same old pump
new composites / same SMC constructionother than those factors, really what else is there to change???
my picks are in bold
pssst, you forgot to click the "B" for bold!!!!!!!!!!!

[yamaslut]

pssst, you forgot to click the "B" for bold!!!!!!!!!!!

I realized I already gave my prediction..
:splatt:

[nikad58]

WOW ! Most views, Most posts in this section !! Just might be the biggest thread of all time !!

looks like sept. 15th is the day of release !
MSRP off the yamaha site for a 07' is $6499.00, you can guess what the new one will cost !

[sjetrider]

If you don't think Yamaha likes this Buzzzzzzz, you are smokin crack...

I seriously doubt anyone has actually seen it, just a lot of logical assumptions on what they will do going on here.... There are only so many things that could be changed...

It's either:

bigger / smaller
heavier / lighter / same weight
4 stoke / 2 stroke
larger cc / same cc
different top deck / same top deck
differnent bottom deck / same bottom deck
new pump / same old pump
new composites / same SMC constructionother than those factors, really what else is there to change???
my picks are in bold

You forgot BOLD NEW GRAPHICS:biggthumpup:

[vomitspot]

The only reason i can see them changing anything at this point is because they are no longer available to sell in Cali or New York as new skis (due to emmisions laws). Not sure how state sales breakdown, but i gotta figure with the populations of both Cali and NY they've gotta be feeling that hit.

The only way for me to buy a new SJ in NY is to have someone out of state buy one and sell it to me as a used ski... :bs2:

id buy it for ya frosty
but it would deff be used before it got back to ny!

[WaveDemon]

WOW ! Most views, Most posts in this section !! Just might be the biggest thread of all time !!

not even close.

[Frosty]

id buy it for ya frosty
but it would deff be used before it got back to ny!

Somehow i figured as much... :biggrin:

[SuperJETT]

not even close.
Here are the top forums/threads:
http://www.x-h2o.com/psistats.php?do=toptf

[yamaslut]

that ridiculous word thread is the biggest..

kinda sad...

[WaveDemon]

that ridiculous word thread is the biggest..

kinda sad...

the duck pond riders will pass it. :biggthumpup:

[MADMAT]

Here are the top forums/threads:
http://www.x-h2o.com/psistats.php?do=toptf

Man those are interesting stats. Not at all what I would have expected.

[yamaslut]

Daytona Freeride ranks well.... Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Boris]

Daytona Freeride ranks well.... Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep but the buzz is dieing down a bit.
Time to start talking about next years extravaganza. :splatt::brap::barrel::woot:

[SJBrit]

Daytona Freeride ranks well.... Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good to see JK up there too....

[yamaslut]

I already got a very special guest comming from another continent... Oh yeah baby.... Daytona will go the ******** off again... I will have some really big names this year, along w/ the others that came last, it will be stupid..

See if you can figure out the special guest...
I don't know how to give a hint except think
"skull cap"

[Matt_E]

:haha: Jimmy gonna be there, eh? COOL!!!

[vitaly]

:haha: Jimmy gonna be there, eh? COOL!!!
I'm still trying to figure out how one of the brothers ended up being named James and another one Jimmy... :dunno: