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Goose
04-09-2007, 01:15 PM
has anyone been able to get get in touch with the new 24-7 ive been trying to contact him now for months about gettin 2 of my cylinders back i tried the shop number and his cell phone.also my buddy has ordered footholds from him 2 sets and they were paid for and he only sent one set and he is having the same problem.anyone else having problems contacting him

butti
04-09-2007, 04:12 PM
someone i know that doesnt post has been trying to get in touch also with no luck:rolleyes:

demolition_x
04-09-2007, 04:20 PM
i was there this weekend talking to mark and checking out the new stuff. 732 505 8115 is the number.

i know he hurt his back and has been in and out of the doctors all week.

feartheride
04-09-2007, 06:08 PM
Hurt his back or not if he is going to run a business and take peoples money he should have the decency to at least call them back.
I have a friend that paid for the h20 hood kit and mark won't return his calls

Goose
04-10-2007, 03:31 PM
he called me today and took care of everything he did have some health issues

IKSTEJ
04-11-2007, 12:29 PM
Seems he is indeed having other issues.....
http://www.imagewerx.co.uk/photos/Tparkeaster07/pages/TPARK7108.htm

Seems Ant Burgess has invaded some foreign countries Air Space
on his new 24/7 hull, and Full Throttle PowerPlant :bigeyes:

FLY6584
04-11-2007, 05:19 PM
Being that this is a feedback thread I'll go ahead and post some real feedback.

Around Christmas time I purchased a Carbon Fiber Chinpad from him and he hooked me up with a real good deal because at the time he was running some specials. I needed the chinpad shipped to me by the Friday before Christmas because I was leaving for Ft. Lauderdale for Xmas and I would be doing some riding in Ft. Lauderdale. I had already sold my stock chinpad so I had nothing ro ride with.

Anyways I called him that Thursday to find out where my chinpad was and he said that UPS returned it to him for some reason. He felt very bad and shipped out the chinpad overnight and I had the chinpad the next morning. I saw on the box what shipping cost him and it was close to half the price of the chinpad:bigeyes:, but did not charge me a penny extra for shipping.

The chinpad was made by him and not Maros and I must say it was laid up very nicely, is very strong, and fits perfectly with no modification like some others require.

Now I must also say that a very good friend of mine tried to buy a nosepiece off him to match his H2O-X conversion hood and Mark was really bad about getting back to him and helping him out.

I'm not sure whats going on lately, but I am very curious to know why there are people not receiving their stuff. Maybe he has taken on too much or maybe there is a legitimate reason as to what has happened the past few weeks. Hopefully someone can provide some sort of explanation.

njfl
04-11-2007, 05:50 PM
I'm not sure whats going on lately, but I am very curious to know why there are people not receiving their stuff. Maybe he has taken on too much or maybe there is a legitimate reason as to what has happened the past few weeks. Hopefully someone can provide some sort of explanation.

I spoke with Mark yesterday and he is really out of it (on pain killers) because of a pinched nerve in his back. I know that he is in bad shape because he is always telling me about the latest carbon work he has done and yesterday he didn't even mention it.

A lot of people on here really seem to be digging to find something wrong with his product. It's really kind of sad. He really has a lot to offer us, but for some reason, a lot of you are knocking him. Doesn't the fact that Bogart has put trust in him mean anything?

I would say that he has come from nowhere and already made a positive impact on the sport with what he has done in Europe with Ant. That's noteworthy.

Speedfreak
04-11-2007, 06:34 PM
Is Ant's ski a Stock hull? with a Full Throtle Power plant?

I talked to Mark a few times and he seems like a decent guy. The ski I purchased has a 850cc ADA motor from Mark. When mark sold it it had less than 5 hours and the other guy rode it for 10 minutes starter went out. IT was replaced but never made it back to the water. Then it had sit for a year or so. And before I bought the ski I talked to Mark, told me that if there was anything wrong with the motor when I finally get it in the water that he would rebuild it for me for free since it has so little time on it. He said what ever it needed new crank, sleves, anything that he would take care of it. That sounds like a heck of a deal since I am the 2nd owner of a virtually new motor.

And I am hopeing that it hits like Ants motor does. I am super stoked to go ride now. I might have to ride before it warms up... LOL

WAB
04-12-2007, 03:05 PM
I can see him not calling customers back if he's out. But somebody needs to grab the reigns and return calls even if it's just to say "this is the deal..."
I can see being upset for paying up front and then not getting a call back.

The cutsomer is always right :28: :rolleyes:

Powder
04-13-2007, 07:46 PM
I heard Mark is in jail for impregnating a bus load of nuns while hopped up on paint thinner!

Come on people this tangential, negative thread based on "I heard from a Myspace Hooker in Bangkok" is the reason I am fed up with all the name calling, bellyaching, BS of this site. Base your opinions and comments on FACTS not "A Firm Source"

Fact: Ant is a sponsored Rider thus R&D issues will come up, but NONE have contrary to the MySpace authorities.

Fact: Mark flew to the UK to dial Ant's boat in. Would he do that if he wasn't looking to make sure the ski was a solid product? The Euro market is blossoming and has a huge market potential. Why would he send a product that isn't going to be the best image to promote future sales?

Fact: Mark messed his back up and has been slow to respond to people. Maybe in a pain killer induced fog he mis-shipped something or was late to get something out. Did he correct or offer to correct the problem(s) if there were any? Maybe if he were able to post on here in reply people would know the non-myspace version of things.

Fact: A very well respected motor builder on here has a very similar back issue right now. He is a little behind and slow to respond but I have not heard a peep about that from people. Why because just like Mark he has contacted the people after a few days to tell them what is going on and if something needed to meet a deadline he still met it. That is what good costumer service is. I would expect that from LPW, Team Scream, X-metal, WCF or 24/7 that is flat out what a good company does.

I met Mark once maybe twice so it isn't like I am a MARK cheerleader this is common sense and common respect. Give the guy a chance he has been kicked in the teeth from the start.

For what it's worth the times I have talked to Mark he has been respectful and not once said something negative about another builder / shop / manufacturer etc.

Yes I understand the issues between Paul and Mark! I probably understand a lot better then most the people on here since I actually consider Paul a personal friend and I would like to think he still considers me a friend. My statements above have nothing to do with any of that, can't people see the difference?

Flame away at me for what I have typed I really don't care. I probably won't log in for a few more days maybe a week because frankly I have better things to do then sit on here reading flames and bashings.

Big Kahuna
04-16-2007, 07:12 AM
he called me today and took care of everything he did have some health issues

hey Goose, you got your cylinders back yet, is everything cleared up..............

Goose
04-16-2007, 02:13 PM
thats a no on the cylinders Big Kauna he called today saying i owe him money now for somereason

the only couch rider
04-16-2007, 02:24 PM
thats a no on the cylinders Big Kauna he called today saying i owe him money now for somereason


i though everything was taken care of as of last monday

Big Kahuna
04-16-2007, 03:02 PM
Alrighty, lets step back in time and start this over again.

njfl
04-16-2007, 03:06 PM
Alrighty, lets step back in time and start this over again.

Or how about letting Mark post here to share his comments. Or, take it to PWCToday where he can post. Otherwise, this will just become a one-sided 24/7 bashing session, something I recall that you wanted to eliminate from this site.

Big Kahuna
04-16-2007, 03:47 PM
Or how about letting Mark post here to share his comments. Or, take it to PWCToday where he can post. Otherwise, this will just become a one-sided 24/7 bashing session, something I recall that you wanted to eliminate from this site.

We do not influence any feedback threads, nor do we take sides. This is a different situation with Marks Status here, but I am not going to tell goose, "hey, mark cannot post here, so you cannot post feedback."

All I/we can do is keep the peace, and keep it civil.......... should have cleaned it up over the weekend but I have a new little girl at home and spend my time with her...........

Powder
04-16-2007, 05:11 PM
I guess my post was too pro 24/7, sorry to bias opinions with facts X users.

Here is some feedback on 24/7. I stopped in to see Mark sat because I heard his back was messed up. He is in a world of hurt but still trying to get orders out to people. We got to talking about a project i am working on for a friend. Before I know it Mark was helping me foam the ski I am working on(He poured I did the heavy work because of his back.) Despite being in pain he was positive about everything. I saw some of the new 24/7 products and they looked great quality is just like what Chris put out.

Big Kahuna
04-16-2007, 05:21 PM
I guess my post was too pro 24/7, sorry to bias opinions with facts X users.

Here is some feedback on 24/7. I stopped in to see Mark sat because I heard his back was messed up. He is in a world of hurt but still trying to get orders out to people. We got to talking about a project i am working on for a friend. Before I know it Mark was helping me foam the ski I am working on(He poured I did the heavy work because of his back.) Despite being in pain he was positive about everything. I saw some of the new 24/7 products and they looked great quality is just like what Chris put out.


I cleaned up most of the post that was irrelevant, if anything, to Marks favor, got rid of the witch hunt post............

your post was a good post................

Nascency Chris
04-16-2007, 05:22 PM
Or how about letting Mark post here to share his comments. Or, take it to PWCToday where he can post. Otherwise, this will just become a one-sided 24/7 bashing session, something I recall that you wanted to eliminate from this site.


I guess my post was too pro 24/7, sorry to bias opinions with facts X users.

Here is some feedback on 24/7. I stopped in to see Mark sat because I heard his back was messed up. He is in a world of hurt but still trying to get orders out to people. We got to talking about a project i am working on for a friend. Before I know it Mark was helping me foam the ski I am working on(He poured I did the heavy work because of his back.) Despite being in pain he was positive about everything. I saw some of the new 24/7 products and they looked great quality is just like what Chris put out.

thats funny...you guys took it to mean that BK has some bias against mark...i saw it as helping mark and full throttle because people were spreading "heresay" rumors about the quality of his work...why is that bad?

it seems to me BK did the best thing here and brought the thread back to where it should have been (and then i can come along and jack it again:biggrin:)...

take a breath guys, take a breath...

Goose
04-16-2007, 06:13 PM
yea it was suspost to be taken care of then i didnt recieve anything as of fri so i tried to call he answered and i said about shipping them to a different place and was gonna give him an address he said call back so i tried calling all day fri no answer and most of sat.so i send him a pm on pwctoday then he calls this morning and all of a sudden i owe him money on a cylinder that i sent him to look at cause i was told it was junk he said it needed this and that and would cose me 100 buck i asked will it def work and he said he wasnt shure so anyone thats in that position isnt gonna waste money on something that isnt gonna work.so i said you can have them if you wanna mess around with them be my guest their yours ill send a set of pistons so you can test them out mabe youll stumble across something.so i sent the pistons and ups says they were delivered he says they werent.then a regional event at seaside came and he said about sponcering me after the event we chatted about it and never took it into details other than he was gonna build me a motor so jersey rager came and he introduced me to people including his business partner as this is my sponcered rider.so i left another set of cylinders and pistons their for him.these are the cylinders that i want back their still un touched.over the winter we talked and i was building my topdeck he was asking about using my mold when i was done and what not but i wasnt done with it in time for him to use.then the phone calls changed to calling me talking about his other riders hes gonna sponcer and about their skis and it seemed when he asked a question about my hull i built he told me i shoulda went a different route on everything design material layup scheadule.when i got advice from wamilton about building it and he was a great help.so i decided i just want to cut my ties with him and get my stuff back no harsh feelings.ive never said a negitive word about him to anyone.so he even called wamilton telling him he shouldnt have gaven him advice cause its gonna hurt 24-7 business ect.so i had enough i just wanted my stuff back.not once till today has their been anything about me having him to pay for what he did to the first set of cylinders i gave him to have.come on anyone that owes you money your gonna harass them about it or tell them about it over a period of time its been like a year so now all of a sudden why is thir a bill involved?

The Penguin
04-16-2007, 06:16 PM
my eyes are bleeding.

kx454
04-17-2007, 11:55 PM
thats quite the write up, i think i am seeing triple vision haha

yamaslut
04-23-2007, 10:58 AM
paragraphs are your friend....

:banghead: :bigeyes:

WaveDemon
04-26-2007, 09:42 PM
Our misunderstanding was supposed to be taken care of by now. When I didn't receive my parts as of Friday I called 24/7. Mark answered, I asked about shipping my parts to a different address but he asked me to call back.I tried calling all day fri and most of Saturday with no answer. After I sent him a pm on pwctoday he called this morning and suddenly i owe him $100 on a cylinder that I had him check out for me. I asked him if it would definitely work and he said no so I passed on the repair. I decided to let mark have the cylinders and sent him the matching pistons via UPS. Mark claims to have not received the pistons but UPS shows he did.

Later at a regional event at seaside Mark talked about sponsoring me after the event. we chatted about it and never took it into details other than he was gonna build me a motor. At jersey ranger he introduced me to people including his business partner as his sponsored rider.

I left another set of cylinders and pistons with Mark. He never touched these cylinders and want to get them back.

over the winter we talked about my top deck build. mark said he'd like to use my mold but I didn't finish with it in time. .In later phone calls he started talking about his other riders hes gonna sponsor and about their skis. when the topic of my hull i built he told me i should went a different route on everything; design, material, layup schedule. When I was building my top deck Wamilton gave me great advice. Mark when as far as to call Wamilton to tell him he shouldn't have given me advice because it would hurt 24/7's business. I decided i just want to cut my ties with 24/7 and get my stuff back, no harsh feelings.

Mark hasn't billed me until now and is asking me to pay for inspecting my first set of cylinders I gave him. Isn't it a little late to start asking for money now?



^^^^^^^

I tried to put his random thoughts into something that could be understood. Sorry if my translation isn't accurate.

djkorn1
04-26-2007, 09:50 PM
ahhh... English.
:cool2:

Mark44
04-27-2007, 08:38 AM
Ahhh thats better now if we could only hear from 24/7.

Mark44

Speedfreak
04-30-2007, 12:05 AM
Ahhh thats better now if we could only hear from 24/7.

Mark44

Your dreaming :haha: :haha:

Mark44
04-30-2007, 07:44 AM
Your dreaming :haha: :haha:

Yep that’s just bad for business. :cool2:

Mark44

duckman1
05-01-2007, 12:24 AM
Has anyone been able to contact them? I just recieved a new diamond Ht covered chinpad today, and it looks like poo-poo to me, it needs reglued in a couple of places, and the HT looks like bad b-stock. yee haw....Guess I'll be calling.

butti
05-01-2007, 12:30 AM
my freind is still trying to reach mark with no luck:rolleyes:


mark if you read this,call steve back!he wants to buy a hood!!

njfl
05-01-2007, 12:39 AM
Has anyone been able to contact them? I just recieved a new diamond Ht covered chinpad today, and it looks like poo-poo to me, it needs reglued in a couple of places, and the HT looks like bad b-stock. yee haw....Guess I'll be calling.

Why don't you call him first and try to get it worked out rather than complain and tell us that you're going to call him. I, Powder, and IHOP all spoke with him in the past two days. He's readily available. Instead of wasting bandwidth here, PM him at pwctoday.

skysurfer2010
05-01-2007, 02:55 AM
I just met Mark this weekend and he was hopped up on a nice mix of prescribed drugs for his back. He's a very cool guy and i got a chance to see some of his quality work. He's doing a lot of great things with the carbon fiber!

I read all the negative things about him but I'm glad I didn't pass any judgement before meeting him. He's pouring his heart into the sport and you can tell. I think he's an asset to our sport and we should be thankful to have more competition in an already small industry.

It would be nice if he were allowed to post here, but something tells me he doesn't have the time to spend glued to a PC anyway.

WFO Speedracer
05-01-2007, 08:46 AM
Is it time for a thread overhaul again,I was just wondering,this one seems broken.

Big Kahuna
05-01-2007, 08:50 AM
Is it time for a thread overhaul again,I was just wondering,this one seems broken.

why, this thead is peacefull. Lets keep it that way.

Mark44
05-01-2007, 09:03 AM
why, this thead is peacefull. Lets keep it that way.

And give Mark a chance here. :biggthumpup:

For the riders by the riders right?

Mark44

SuperJETT
05-01-2007, 09:09 AM
And give Mark a chance here. :biggthumpup:

For the riders by the riders right?

Mark44

You are misquoting, For riders, by riders. There is a difference, and it's been stated many times the stance on this, and that hasn't changed and won't, and Mark isn't even active on pwctoday so I doubt he would be here either.

Mark44
05-01-2007, 09:17 AM
You are misquoting, For riders, by riders. There is a difference, and it's been stated many times the stance on this, and that hasn't changed and won't, and Mark isn't even active on pwctoday so I doubt he would be here either.

Never know could be a good thing more builders. You are speculating.

for riders by riders :biggthumpup:
Mark44

WFO Speedracer
05-01-2007, 09:59 AM
Apparantly I am not considered a rider.

guiness92
05-01-2007, 10:24 AM
why do some people insist on pushing issues they know nothing about? :shrug:

FLY6584
05-01-2007, 12:34 PM
we should be thankful to have more competition in an already small industry.



I couldn't agree more.:biggthumpup: I don't understand why so many people on this site bash companies like they do. More competing companies means more options and better prices for us.

feartheride
05-01-2007, 01:59 PM
my freind is still trying to reach mark with no luck:rolleyes:


mark if you read this,call steve back!he wants to buy a hood!!

Butti I would recommend not sending him any money .As of now he has taken alot of money from my friend for a h20 hood kit and he is not returning any of his calls.It is a bad scene.

And before the ranting starts I would not say this unless I new what I was talking about.

duckman1
05-01-2007, 10:43 PM
Why don't you call him first and try to get it worked out rather than complain and tell us that you're going to call him. I, Powder, and IHOP all spoke with him in the past two days. He's readily available. Instead of wasting bandwidth here, PM him at pwctoday.

Point well taken, fact is I did try to contact him today, no answer. I'll try again. On the other side of the coin, since i'm guessing this stuff is made in house, I would hope for a tad better quality control. If this was happening, ignorant post such as mine would not be made. Maybe I'm just too anal?

Goose
05-21-2007, 10:43 AM
So i seen mark at the seaside NJ event and i asked.Mark whats up with my cylinders where they at? all he said was wheres my money and kept walking he wouldnt even talk to me about it

FL-cracker
05-21-2007, 11:40 AM
So i seen mark at the seaside NJ event and i asked.Mark whats up with my cylinders where they at? all he said was wheres my money and kept walking he wouldnt even talk to me about it

:bigeyes: Thats great custumer service :bs2:

FL-cracker
05-21-2007, 11:43 AM
I couldn't agree more.:biggthumpup: I don't understand why so many people on this site bash companies like they do. More competing companies means more options and better prices for us.

I disagree, if your gona take someones $$$$ you better be ready to flip a part out! No one should not know whats going on with a part that they had paid for months ago.

How about some feed back on the quality of these parts?

FLY6584
05-21-2007, 01:24 PM
I disagree, if your gona take someones $$$$ you better be ready to flip a part out! No one should not know whats going on with a part that they had paid for months ago.

How about some feed back on the quality of these parts?

I couldn't agree more, but most of the time people go about it the wrong way or they are talking about a company they have never dealt with personally.

This thread is how a negative feedback thread should be written:

http://www.x-h2o.com/showthread.php?t=17978

FL-cracker
05-21-2007, 01:37 PM
good point:biggthumpup: You cant always go by what you here.

SuperJETT
05-21-2007, 01:42 PM
good point:biggthumpup: You cant always go by what you here.

Even when threads on here seem to be very well written/etc, because we're only getting the 'screwee' side of the story.

FL-cracker
05-21-2007, 01:47 PM
yea, I was doing the Be Respectfull thing..... the sarcasm was kind of hidden:smile:

Powder
05-21-2007, 01:56 PM
So i seen mark at the seaside NJ event and i asked.Mark whats up with my cylinders where they at? all he said was wheres my money and kept walking he wouldnt even talk to me about it

I was keep out of this but if you are going to post something like this that isn't accurate I feel the need to reply. I happen to be within ear shot of when this happen and you are totally misrepresenting the interaction. You yelled from across the parking lot "Hey Mark where's my cylinders" in an instigating tone of voice as if you were looking to start something. Mark replied back short to the point "when you pay me" Or "where is my money" something to that extent. I would have replied the same way to avoid a scene that nothing good could have came from. If you really wanted to work it out you would have talked to him when he was standing about 10 feet from your trailer instead of waiting to yell it across the parking lot to make sure people heard you. Or perhaps stopped at the shop that is only about 5 miles from where the races were so you could talk to him about why there are charges or where the communication disconnect down was.


How about some feed back on the quality of these parts?
I have seen a number of the parts he is putting out and the quality is to the standard Chris built, as well as some new designs that are pretty darn cool.
Mark also honored the warranty on a part Chris built for me as well.

Goose
05-21-2007, 04:09 PM
it is what it is. LPW came thrue with a set of cylinders and i couldnt be happier with them.Im still wating to hear back from some one on e bay about the cylinders he bought from mark and i will know if their mine or not.but that guy hasnt seen them as of 14 days after the auction ended.
and i feel im keeping it pretty clean with my post about him im not out to bad mouth him i could care less what he does he bought an already established business and if he can come thrue with quality products and customer service like chris maros he will continue a sucessful business.

gostroker
06-17-2007, 10:54 PM
this is crazy!

guiness92
06-18-2007, 12:37 AM
Chris was a fiberglass genius. It takes alot of experience and time to produce parts the way he did.

SuperJETT
06-18-2007, 07:14 AM
Chris was a fiberglass genius. It takes alot of experience and time to produce parts the way he did.

He was also one of the best testers you could ask for because he could seriously ride, both flatwater and surf.

Goose
08-13-2007, 01:29 PM
update on things i thaught i was gonna be posting something positive for me and him but it turns out its not the case.after trying to get ahold of him since the event i have to get intouch with marks dad.

I had a very polite conversation over the phone with him telling him the situation I was not rude or slamming mark in any way.He told me he would get ahold of him and back to me no later than tues this took place on a fri.tues came around and didnt hear from him so i called mark.

The conversation with mark started off peaceful and mark said that he sent a bill to me and once i paid him i would get my stuff back.i just wanted it back so i ate it and said fine but are these cylinders gonna work that you were suspost to fix.he said yes i dont know why your such and idot and being so stupid and hung up.

Its been over 2wks now and still no bill. I just dont get it if i owed him money from over a year ago when this first started why didnt he send me a bill.and how comes it never came up in conversation when things were peaceful between us.and when he did state you owe me money why didnt he call me and say this instead of goin thrue another customer and now why is their still not a bill in my hands so i can get my stuff back.

Ive had enough with this bs and im gonna contact the atturney general and let them handle it.this isnt the route i wanted to go and wouldnt do this if he would be acting a different way about it.

FL-cracker
08-13-2007, 01:52 PM
yikes :banghead:

tom21
08-13-2007, 02:27 PM
has anyone other than the guys already posting bought parts from the new 24-7?

did you get em in a timely manner? what is the quality?

I keep hearing the old conversion hoods are making a comeback but if this is how it is now- I won't hold my breath.

PancakePete
08-13-2007, 02:31 PM
I think that these threads are hilarious...

you see LPW getting knocked on here when people wait 5 months for motors... NOPE.

do you see the same when people wait 6 for team scream...

Or how bout when those motors blow up ..

NOPE not published...

Ya... all of the builders have good and bads... I just think its funny so many people beat companies up...

Reason 1,023,309,403,040,249,820,948.0 I'm sick of it all.

sjetrider
08-13-2007, 02:36 PM
Some one post a positive feedback if there is one???? I loved the old 24/7 products and would like to see them (in the same quality) back out here and readily available.

sjetrider
08-13-2007, 02:38 PM
I think that these threads are hilarious...

you see LPW getting knocked on here when people wait 5 months for motors... NOPE.

do you see the same when people wait 6 for team scream...

Or how bout when those motors blow up ..

NOPE not published...

Ya... all of the builders have good and bads... I just think its funny so many people beat companies up...

Reason 1,023,309,403,040,249,820,948.0 I'm sick of it all.



HA HA HA, I totally agree with the above. The same crap happening with Jeff Curry. Why do some get singled out and others not mentioned at all?????????? This is why we should avoid conversation on negative threads, post it and go on.

PancakePete
08-13-2007, 02:40 PM
Some one post a positive feedback if there is one???? I loved the old 24/7 products and would like to see them (in the same quality) back out here and readily available.

I have seen the New 247 shop...
Mark is VERY VERY concerned with Quality.
If its not right. I have seen him throw near perfect things out
because they were not perfect.

I was like ooohhh.. I'll take that... lol

As far as all the stuff in this thread.. I dont know... I do know that all the builders from LPW to Team Scream and Full throttle are all trying and doing better and better in all angles of all their business... Its got to be super hard...

The Penguin
08-13-2007, 02:44 PM
HA HA HA, I totally agree with the above. The same crap happening with Jeff Curry. Why do some get singled out and others not mentioned at all?????????? This is why we should avoid conversation on negative threads, post it and go on.
that is the entire problem with this section.

the only people that should post in a negative feedback thread are the parties directly involved with that specific transaction.

no other conversation from people outside the transaction is really necessary.

Mark44
08-13-2007, 02:49 PM
I think that these threads are hilarious...

you see LPW getting knocked on here when people wait 5 months for motors... NOPE.

do you see the same when people wait 6 for team scream...

Or how bout when those motors blow up ..

NOPE not published...

Ya... all of the builders have good and bads... I just think its funny so many people beat companies up...

Reason 1,023,309,403,040,249,820,948.0 I'm sick of it all.


LOL it’s good to be king of the click (LPW).

I have had work done by LPW and it has been top notch but if I had a bad experience I would post about it but I don’t think it would go that fare with LPW he would take care of the problem in a professional manner. IMO. :popcorn:

Mark44

PancakePete
08-13-2007, 02:54 PM
LOL it’s good to be king of the click (LPW).

I have had work done by LPW and it has been top notch but if I had a bad experience I would post about it but I don’t think it would go that fare with LPW he would take care of the problem in a professional manner. IMO. :popcorn:

Mark44

I hope you understand what I mean...
My motor has lasted un believable... I sunk bad the other day... keeps on tickin... really I beat my motor and still rips ! LPW :fing02:
I am just saying that some companies, all they get is bad press and alot of companies that have bad press dont get any of it posted...
You have no clue... no offense...
I am not knocking anyone.. just trying to make some more peace between companies and people... again and again..:ugh2:

Mark44
08-13-2007, 02:55 PM
HA HA HA, I totally agree with the above. The same crap happening with Jeff Curry. Why do some get singled out and others not mentioned at all?????????? This is why we should avoid conversation on negative threads, post it and go on.

Jeff Curry LOL thats another story:kabong::kabong::kabong:

Mark44

Mark44
08-13-2007, 03:00 PM
I hope you understand what I mean...
My motor has lasted un believable... I sunk bad the other day... keeps on tickin... really I beat my motor and still rips ! LPW :fing02:
I am just saying that some companies, all they get is bad press and alot of companies that have bad press dont get any of it posted...
You have no clue... no offense...
I am not knocking anyone.. just trying to make some more peace between companies and people... again and again..:ugh2:

I think we know the answer to this. :Banane35::Banane35: Its not a very large group of people. :wave:

Mark44:

SuperJETT
08-13-2007, 04:38 PM
The only guess I have it people feel more comfortable posting negative about certain people because it's more 'accepted' maybe?

I had a run-in with an engine builder like 10 years ago with my SXi race engine. He ended up being one of my friends and I learned a TON from him. I did air my grief online and regret it still today because in the end there was no winner. Had I or he taken the time to make a phone call it would have been avoided but both of us were fairly stubborn, and still are I guess.

If we didn't have this forum, the threads would probably still get posted but in the general forum or elsewhere.

As for people saying we're encouraging negative stuff, bull. Look at the # of threads, it's like 6:1 in favor of positive over negative.

Goose
08-13-2007, 06:04 PM
I think that these threads are hilarious...

you see LPW getting knocked on here when people wait 5 months for motors... NOPE.

do you see the same when people wait 6 for team scream...

Or how bout when those motors blow up ..

NOPE not published...

Ya... all of the builders have good and bads... I just think its funny so many people beat companies up...

Reason 1,023,309,403,040,249,820,948.0 I'm sick of it all.

Im not beating him down im just tryin to get my stuff back. it was a matter of an hr from when this thread first started mark was calling me tryin to get intouch with me. when i couldnt get him to answer the phone for weeks.

Goose
08-13-2007, 06:42 PM
and when all of the other builders have that issue they work with the customer to get it sorted out.thats why they have the rep they have

PancakePete
08-14-2007, 08:26 AM
and when all of the other builders have that issue they work with the customer to get it sorted out.thats why they have the rep they have

Well I just hope for both sakes that it gets worked out and both peeps are happy ! :beerchug:

Big Kahuna
08-14-2007, 09:12 AM
Well I just hope for both sakes that it gets worked out and both peeps are happy ! :beerchug:

going on 4 months now................... sorry dont see it happening.

Big Kahuna
08-14-2007, 09:21 AM
dam, youre just a ray of sunshine today arent ya. :silly:

just pointing out the obvious.............


Today is a great day............ It is Izzy's 1/2 Birthday today!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big Kahuna
08-14-2007, 09:28 AM
cool........... I think I would have a heart attack if she wanted to do that!!!!!!

RonnyMac
08-14-2007, 09:36 AM
Yeeeeya! IZZI!!!
http://x-h2o.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10082/normal_IMG_7964.jpg

sjetrider
08-14-2007, 10:14 AM
going on 4 months now................... sorry dont see it happening.

Post back up when it has been 18 mos. :nana: LOL just kiddin.

Speedfreak
09-14-2007, 01:59 PM
I have been trying to get in touch with Mark since late August. He hasn't answered his phone is 3 weeks nor returned a phone message. He said 4 weeks ago "I will ship your motor out monday" And now I can't get a hold of him.

Goose we need an update. Did you have to take legal action?

Speedfreak
09-14-2007, 11:43 PM
Thanks to whom ever told Mark I was looking trying to get a hold of him... Less than 30 minutes after this post I got an email.

vitaly
09-15-2007, 12:06 AM
speaking of izzi, nico izzi placed a top 10 in his first outing as a pro!!! :shocked:

GO NICCO!!!

http://www.doublezeroproductions.com/images/IzziWall.jpg

:fing02: :fing02: :fing02: :fing02: :borladuck:
:-):-):-):-), I grew up (like 12 to 18 y.o.) riding MX and the main goal for me was to stay "vertical as long as you feel you are vertical". This picture kicks ass!

Goose
12-21-2007, 06:56 PM
Just to update this Mark and I reached an agreement and i recieved both of my cylinders back and pistons which was everything of mine that he had and also the 760 was ported and ready to go.All problems resolved

Big Kahuna
12-25-2007, 03:46 AM
Good to hear Goose

Full Throttle Powersports
12-25-2007, 09:14 AM
Bill im happy we put this all behind us
have a marry a marry xmas