Seeg

[Idok]

ok, here's the story...


Seeg contacts me about a squarenose nose piece...we haggle, make a deal and he says "I will paypal you first thing in the AM"

no sweat, part will be boxed up and ready.


So, I come into work the next day..check my PP account and find an ECHECK :banghead: that will not clear for a week or so



so, I hold the part til the check clears



The echeck clears last night (4/11)...and I email the guy today telling him I am going to ship the part out right away


he then gets pissed and demands a refund.....then tries to tell me that echeck is "the way I have my properties set to receive funds" and that all payments are this way. Dont try and bull******** me, I know how it works....


in his PM's I can see his chest puffing out as he is trying to intimidate me :rolleyes: whatever dude




bottom line. Why would I send a part to someone with a low post count that I dont even know?


:banghead:

[Matt_E]

Why would I send a part to someone with a low post count that I dont even know?


You wouldn't. You may be just an Idok, but you're not a total idiot. :biggthumpup:

Thanks for the headsup.

[tor*p*do]

seems like everyone wants something for nothing these days

live and learn

[michael950]

That is one thing I hate about paypal, you get prompted if you want to make a CC payment and not Instant (Paypal balance or eCheck). If you click no it goes eCheck if there is nothing in your balance.

I overdrew my checking account once because I keep no/little money in that account.


He probably goofed and tried to blame you.

[Seeg]

My side:

I sent IDOK a private message last Thursday night, asking if he would take $55 shipped USPS Priority mail and ship it the very next morning. I also stated I need it soon for an upcomming paint job, thats why I asked next morning, USPS Priority.
IDOK replied Friday morning with this:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

sure!


scott_y@hotmail.com for paypal


(_ between t and y)

Ill get it boxed up tonite and ready to ship

I then paypaled him that morning, and his reply was:

thanks man..Ill have it out asap!

It's now the following Thursday, and ski is getting painted this weekend. I get a private message from him saying he will ship tommorrow morning. :banghead:

Well, the nose piece is pretty worthless now, unless I want a white nose piece on a Yamaha Blue ski.

IDOK's excuss was not the funds were sent Echeck from Paypal, and that he needed to wait for a check from Paypal to clear? As if they would be sending him a bogus check. There was no selection to send an instant payment or Echeck, and I can post screenshots if need be. He also did not contact me at all on the shipping delay. I am also a Verified Premier Member with Paypal.

Now, I am the one for getting negative feedback?
What did I do wrong?

[Idok]

yup, I absolutely DID tell you I'd ship right away



UNTIL YOU SENT AN ECHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








and now youre digging yoruself deeper by posting PM's which is against site rules....anything else?

[Matt_E]

FWIW, I would wait for an echeck to clear, too.

[Seeg]

Like as stated, I had no option for Echeck.
Are you doubting a check from Paypal might not be any good?
Why did you not contact me when you decided not to ship?
Remeber the part where I said I needed it right away for a upcomming paint job?

[oxnard111]

Like as stated, I had no option for Echeck.
Are you doubting a check from Paypal might not be any good?
Why did you not contact me when you decided not to ship?
Remeber the part where I said I needed it right away for a upcomming paint job?

An echeck is just like you writing a personal check to a person. It has to clear out of your bank account before the funds are fully available to the person you sending them to.

Just b/c you didn't have the option to send it via echeck doesn't mean that it didn't get sent to IDOK that way.

I see that Seeq is at fault here, not IDOK.

Keep diggin' Seeq, your gonna hit China here eventually.

[Idok]

Like as stated, I had no option for Echeck.

yeah, you do....look again.

Are you doubting a check from Paypal might not be any good?


YES! it can be cancelled just like a paper check

Why did you not contact me when you decided not to ship?


why did you not contact me with the info that you were not sending $$ thru a PP balance


Remeber the part where I said I needed it right away for a upcomming paint job?

I remember. but again, I DONT KNOW YOU!





bottom line is simple:

pay by echeck, no problem...but you wait for it to clear

Pay with instant transfer or CC...shipping is immediate




sorry dude, you just dont get it!

[Matt_E]

The check isn't from Paypal. It is a check that comes from you (electronic funds transfer from your bank). Once it clears from Paypal, it gets sent to the recipient.
If you have insufficient funds in your bank account or a wrong account, the check will NOT clear.

[the only couch rider]

Like as stated, I had no option for Echeck.
Are you doubting a check from Paypal might not be any good?

if you had no option for sending an e-check then how did you send one? if you had the option to do an e-check you should have had the option to do an instant transfer


see attached picture

It just seems shady that when you have the option of doing an e-check or doing an instant transfer, that you choose the e-check.


see attached photo

[Idok]

I will let the users of X-H20 decide.......I have a boxed up square nosepiece sitting here on my desk ready to ship


shall I send it, or refund the $$


I honestly dont care, but I WILL NOT be backed into a corner or made to feel like I did something wrong

[oxnard111]

I'd refund the money. He doesn't need the nose piece now anyways. One less trip to the shipping store/post office you have to make

[the only couch rider]

I will let the users of X-H20 decide.......I have a boxed up square nosepiece sitting here on my desk ready to ship


shall I send it, or refund the $$


I honestly dont care, but I WILL NOT be backed into a corner or made to feel like I did something wrong


u already know the answer


the nosepiece being useless to him now is BS. if he is using a reputable paint shop or doing it himself he should have the forsight to have extra for touch ups and what not. if it is mixed at the same time he should have no problem painting the nose piece when it arrives

[WAB]

echeck is when you have $0 in paypal account, so it comes out of your checking account, hence the name 'echeck'.
it's an electronic personal check, you bank has to verify the funds before it clears.
When you pay with an echeck it says that most sellers wait for it to clear. Both seller and buyer get emails once it clears.

People wait for check to clear..........so I don't see the issue. :shrug:

[the only couch rider]

echeck is when you have $0 in paypal account, so it comes out of your checking account, hence the name 'echeck'.
it's an electronic personal check, you bank has to verify the funds before it clears.
When you pay with an echeck it says that most sellers wait for it to clear. Both seller and buyer get emails once it clears.

People wait for check to clear..........so I don't see the issue. :shrug:

see my above statement... if your bank account is attached to do an e-check you have the option as well to do an instant transfer

[michael950]

It's inferred that when paying by check/eCheck the item will NOT ship until payment clears. It is not the same as cash or Credit Card.

When discussing terms, you must be specific. It is assumed you will pay by Credit Card, Cash, then eCheck.

Idok, I would refund the money.

[Idok]

if you had no option for sending an e-check then how did you send one? if you had the option to do an e-check you should have had the option to do an instant transfer


see attached picture

It just seems shady that when you have the option of doing an e-check or doing an instant transfer, that you choose the e-check.


see attached photo




thank you dan.....I dont know how to post screenshots like that

[The Penguin]

I take Idok's side.

as far as how to proceed - I would just refund. He might get the nosepiece and decide to be a real deckhead and refute with Paypal.

[h2odesperado]

Looks like a lack of communication regarding shipping practices. It usually goes unsaid that you wait to ship until the check clears, but that wasn't communicated, just "I'll ship" asap. That would cause confusion between both parties. I'd call it a technicality. "I'll ship as soon as possible" meant in this situation "as soon as check clears"

[Matt_E]

You must have been given a choice.

Here's what paypal says:
If you have registered a credit card and a confirmed bank account, Instant Transfer from your bank account is the default method of payment when the PayPal account balance is insufficient to complete the payment. The default method of payment cannot be changed; however, if you would like to fund your payment with a credit card, click the Change link when sending a payment and choose the credit card you would like to use.

That means you need to manually change to Echeck.

Don't believe me?

Q How do I use eCheck?

Question :
Answer :
A Select it as your payment method when you send money.

PayPal members from Australia and the European Union cannot pay by eCheck using a U.S. bank account

To pay by eCheck follow these steps:

Here's How:

1. Click theSend Money tab.
2. Enter the required information.
3. Click Continue.
4. Click the Change link under the Payment Method header.
5. Select the eCheck radio button.
6. Click Continue.
7. Review the information and click Send Money to complete the transaction.

Echecks can't be the default method of payment. If you paid by echeck, then you selected echeck manually

So...keep claiming you weren't given a choice. I call BS. :bs:

[the only couch rider]

You must have been given a choice.

Here's what paypal says:


That means you need to manually change to Echeck.

Don't believe me?



Echecks can't be the default method of payment. If you paid by echeck, then you selected echeck manually


i saved you a couple of keystrokes by saying that already :biggthumpup:

[Matt_E]

That's because it took me freakin' 15 minutes to wade through Paypal's online help! :crazy:

[Big Kahuna]

yup, I absolutely DID tell you I'd ship right away



UNTIL YOU SENT AN ECHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








and now youre digging yoruself deeper by posting PM's which is against site rules....anything else?

That is a grey area...... gonna have to look into it, at one time we said that during feedback, posting of PM's was ok as long as the use was to show factual information regarding the transactions....... Both parties have the right to defend themselfs as long as they remain respectful.

[kurtwolff]

I also agree that one should wait to the e-check to clear; e-checks really are a pain in the ass. They are only good, IMO, when the fees would be really high, and the shipment is not time sensitive. I HATE recieving them!

[Seeg]

Here are some screenshots of trying to send you .25 cents.

http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25313&d=1176416213

http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25314&d=1176416213

bottom section of above page
http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25315&d=1176416213

and clicking the payment options brings me to this page

http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25316&d=1176416213

As you can see, I was never given another option to pay that email account. I have used Paypal before, and never had any issues with anyone. I have never even heard of a ECheck payment option before this.

[the only couch rider]

ok, here's the story...


Seeg contacts me about a squarenose nose piece...we haggle, make a deal and he says "I will paypal you first thing in the AM"

no sweat, part will be boxed up and ready.


So, I come into work the next day..check my PP account and find an ECHECK :banghead: that will not clear for a week or so



so, I hold the part til the check clears



The echeck clears last night (4/11)...and I email the guy today telling him I am going to ship the part out right away


he then gets pissed and demands a refund.....then tries to tell me that echeck is "the way I have my properties set to receive funds" and that all payments are this way. Dont try and bull******** me, I know how it works....


in his PM's I can see his chest puffing out as he is trying to intimidate me :rolleyes: whatever dude




bottom line. Why would I send a part to someone with a low post count that I dont even know?


:banghead:

Here are some screenshots of trying to send you .25 cents.

http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25313&d=1176416213

http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25314&d=1176416213

bottom section of above page
http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25315&d=1176416213

and clicking the payment options brings me to this page

http://www.x-h2o.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25316&d=1176416213

As you can see, I was never given another option to pay that email account. I have used Paypal before, and never had any issues with anyone. I have never even heard of a ECheck payment option before this.


some bodies lying and i am willing to bet it is not scott


and the reason you have no other option available to pay is because you have your paypal balance set-up as your primary source of funding. if you had secondary sources of funding available you would have had that option but since you don't have any other secondary funding sources available you don't have that option

case closed end of story

[sxrcohen5]

why dont you jsut get your ski painted without the noise piece on it and then when it arrives you just spary it separate cause you would have to spary it separte anyway? just a suggestion i guess..

[the only couch rider]

why dont you jsut get your ski painted without the noise piece on it and then when it arrives you just spary it separate cause you would have to spary it separte anyway? just a suggestion i guess..


i said the same thing

[The Penguin]

I'm sure sxrcohen didn't mean to override your all-knowing, all-seeing arse. :biggrin:

[Seeg]

Neither one of us is lying there couch rider. Please highlight or show me what about.


I offered $55 with shipping using Paypal, USPS by the next morning.
IDOK accepted.
Paypaled the only way/option I was given.
IDOK decided not to ship and wait for a Wells Fargo or Paypal check to clear.
Did not communicate this with me.
A week later, ski is now being painted, part hasn't even been shipped, too late for the nosepiece.

IDOK, I apologize if I offended you posting your PM response on my offer.

[the only couch rider]

idok said and i quote he then gets pissed and demands a refund.....then tries to tell me that echeck is "the way I have my properties set to receive funds" and that all payments are this way. Dont try and bull******** me, I know how it works....

and you said and i quote As you can see, I was never given another option to pay that email account. I have used Paypal before, and never had any issues with anyone. I have never even heard of a ECheck payment option before this

so it appears we do have a problem

[kid4now]

I wouldnt send stranger a check or echeck without expecting them to wait for it to clear before sending my merchendise. If i wanted it shipped right away I would have made it my repsonsability(sp) to have told them up front that i'm sending them a check or echeck and is that ok with them.

Come on Seeg you just expect a total strange to say ok I trust this guy let me just send him $50 worth of parts because he seems nice?

Seeg, my guess is that you dont have a credit card or instant transfer for one reason or an other to put on you paypal account . Bad credit, no money in your account at the time of purchase from Idok?

[Idok]

For anyone who's interested..........



http://www.hpibajaforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8124


I wonder how this went so smoothly....:rolleyes:




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[GDFL]

So what does you selling the baja buggy that I never got to see run have to do with the price of tea in China?:biggrin:

[Seeg]

Yes, you sold something before and it went smooth, if you would like to check my ebay account it is Seegster, 100% percent feedback.
However, this transaction did not go so well. Again, I would like a refund on a part that was never shipped. As of 8:43 central time, there has been no activity of a refund on Paypal. The money was taken out of my Wells Fargo account on 4-5-2007, the same day I paypaled you. I would rather not screenshot my account information. In good faith, I can email the admin a screenshot, and verify it all for you or any other doubters.

[The Penguin]

an e-check works just like a paper check. It does not matter when it clears your bank. When it clears the payee's bank is what is important.

Sorry you don't see it that way - but I'm still going to side with Idok on the whole issue.

[Seeg]

The Echeck was issued by paypal, not my own personal account. Paypal would not issue a check of their own if the funds were not secured already on their part, which was done right away on 4-5-2007.
As it stands right now, I have no part, no $55, and a neg feedback left about me.
I needed this part right away, stressed that with IDOK, agreed upon, paypal money sent, IDOK then replied it would be sent ASAP, then he decided to wait without any communication untill a week later.
I just want my money back for a part that was never shipped.

[the only couch rider]

The Echeck was issued by paypal, not my own personal account. Paypal would not issue a check of their own if the funds were not secured already on their part, which was done right away on 4-5-2007.
As it stands right now, I have no part, no $55, and a neg feedback left about me.
I needed this part right away, stressed that with IDOK, agreed upon, paypal money sent, IDOK then replied it would be sent ASAP, then he decided to wait without any communication untill a week later.
I just want my money back for a park that was never shipped.


an e-check is like a regular check the funds are not instantly available it still takes 2-3 business days for them to clear before the funds are available. the money may come out of your account but it is probably placed on a hold until the transaction clears then it officially leaves your account.


either way you are still displacing on someone else for some thing is your own fault.

if you are getting the boat painted you can't paint the piece while it is on the boat anyway unless you are doing a .99 paint job and want it to look crappy.

[Fathom]

I got my first E-check payment from Paypal the other day. Paypal even warns you not to ship items until the check clears. I did anyhow but I'm more trusting than others. I took a chance and Idok played more conservative. I can't say I blame him, I worried until the check cleared.

Funds Are on the Way!

Dear XXXXXXX,

This eCheck payment will remain "Uncleared" until the funds clear from the sender's account, which usually takes 3-4 business days. If you are shipping an item, please do not ship your item until the funds clear into your PayPal account. You will be notified by email when the funds clear into your PayPal balance.

eCheck Details
Amount: $36.00 USD
Transaction ID: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[Seeg]

I would have been charged for the paint job on the nose seperatly, since they would already been done with the ski by the time I recieved the nose from IDOK. Not worth it. If I kew last week the shipping was to be delayed, I could have postponed the paint job a few more days. Now it's a little to late. Instead I was told it was shipping ASAP.

I have an email from Paypal recieved on 4-10 that the funds are in his paypal account, so there should be no reason for a delay on the refund.

[the only couch rider]

I would have been charged for the paint job on the nose seperatly, since they would already been done with the ski by the time I recieved the nose from IDOK. Not worth it. If I kew last week the shipping was to be delayed, I could have postponed the paint job a few more days. Now it's a little to late. Instead I was told it was shipping ASAP.

The check is now cleared with his account, IDOK was ready to ship tommorrow. I learned my leason now and won't post that PM.


a nose piece is not that difficult to paint, no harder than painting a helmet and if you are doing a solid color it can be done in about 3 hours start to finish



and just for everyone's clarification

ASAP = As Soon As Possible

Idok said ASAP, he didn't say that day. Today was as soon as possible for him to ship

[Seeg]

A nose piece isn't that hard to paint at the same time as the ski, but painting it afterwards does take time for setup, paint and finish. Just like any other shop, minimum of one hour charge each time. That means second time in would have been $45 labor plus shop supplies.
ASAP would have been Tuesday, not tommorrow.

EDIT:
My bad couch Rider, I edited my post after you responded.

[oxnard111]

Wait so how does a echeck work?





























J/K... back to the regularly scheduled madness

[Seeg]

Madness indeed Oxnard.

[The Penguin]

whats madness is you refuse to acknowledge your own mistake.

[FLY6584]

whats madness is you refuse to acknowledge your own mistake.

I definitely agree Seeg made the mistake of sending an echeck and expecting IDOK to send it before the funds cleared. I am in total agreeance with IDOK. I would have not sent it either without the funds clearing first.

Now looking at the this situation from a completely neutral standpoint I do see where Seeg is coming from. If he made it clear to IDOK that he needed the nosepiece shipped out the next day so that he could have it painted then when IDOK realized Seeg sent the wrong payment maybe IDOK should have PM'd Seeg saying that he sent the wrong type of payment and that he would not be able to ship it out the next day because he needed to wait for the money to clear.

It sounds like no one person was at fault and there was just a breakdown in communication.

[Seeg]

I have no problem admiting mistakes. I did not realize when I made the payment that they were going to do some crazy eCheck BS, as I had no option to select diferently. My credit is more than just good, with over $3000 in the account at the time. I have emailed Paypal to get a better explanation as to why. Look at my Ebay feedback, you'll notice alot of people replying with "Super fast payment". I should have known something was up when I got the email from Paypal stating the funds being deposited into IDOK's account a few days ago. Mistake on my part for not following through.

Now, did IDOK make a mistake knowing I needed the part soon, deciding to wait on shipping and not telling me?
Let's say it was shipped on Tuesday, or even yesterday, I still shoulld have gotten it on time with USPS priority. If it ships tommorrow, I would have gotten it Monday or Tuesday. Again, it will be done by then.
I was told by IDOK that it will take him 3-5 business days to submit a refund, my guess is because just to burn me, as with the Neg feedback post.

[crab]

Let me throw this out there, I have been burned both on paypal and private transactions, and from now on I either have to feel like I know the person, or need someone I know who knows them give me the green light. Sure, there will always be a bit of risk when buying and selling on a forum, but I have learned the hard way that "caution rules". I can say that Idok has been here a long time, and wouldn't be here if he was out to screw peeps, and I have not seen posts for Seeg. That does not mean he is not legit, it just means in similar circumstance I would probably do the same and wait for it to clear.

[WAB]

I'm not reading all 3 pages of this so maybe it was mentioned already.

Seeg, why not get the ski painted w/o the nose piece & keep some paint left over. Then take just the nose pice back to the painter to do when you get it. He should have removed the nose & painted the ski & the nose seperatly anyway. So this would still work out ok.....

I think Idok could have let you know it would not ship right away since he ended up getting an echeck. But at the same time, you could have said 'this is just an echeck, can you still mail it tomorrow?'. Since you've paid using echecks before, you must have ran into it a seller or 2 waiting for it to clear before shipping....

[the only couch rider]

I'm not reading all 3 pages of this so maybe it was mentioned already.

Seeg, why not get the ski painted w/o the nose piece & keep some paint left over. Then take just the nose pice back to the painter to do when you get it. He should have removed the nose & painted the ski & the nose seperatly anyway. So this would still work out ok.....

I think Idok could have let you know it would not ship right away since he ended up getting an echeck. But at the same time, you could have said 'this is just an echeck, can you still mail it tomorrow?'. Since you've paid using echecks before, you must have ran into it a seller or 2 waiting for it to clear before shipping....


middle of page 2 :biggthumpup:

[kid4now]

Hey everyone makes mistakes Idok? Seeg?. Seeg you seem like a good guy fairly new to the forum. There was miscomunication which unfortunatly happened. Seeing how this thread is turning out (civilized) I dont think anyone here will hold a negative feeling toward either parties in the end and everyone will have learned a little bit.

I do have on question though. Seeg what nose piece did you use when the ski was painted if you needed one?


Brad

[sjetrider]

I see IDOK's issue here completeley, but I would have PM's SEEG and told him there would be a delay in shpmnt. of the part due to the echeck thing. I think comunication is key in these deals.

[butti]

I have no problem admiting mistakes. I did not realize when I made the payment that they were going to do some crazy eCheck BS, as I had no option to select diferently. My credit is more than just good, with over $3000 in the account at the time. I have emailed Paypal to get a better explanation as to why. Look at my Ebay feedback, you'll notice alot of people replying with "Super fast payment". I should have known something was up when I got the email from Paypal stating the funds being deposited into IDOK's account a few days ago. Mistake on my part for not following through.

Now, did IDOK make a mistake knowing I needed the part soon, deciding to wait on shipping and not telling me?
Let's say it was shipped on Tuesday, or even yesterday, I still shoulld have gotten it on time with USPS priority. If it ships tommorrow, I would have gotten it Monday or Tuesday. Again, it will be done by then.
I was told by IDOK that it will take him 3-5 business days to submit a refund, my guess is because just to burn me, as with the Neg feedback post.



they do that when you are unverified and dont have enough funds in your paypal account to cover the transaction




when you do a REFUND,the money is returned the same way it was received

[Idok]

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:Banane57:

[the only couch rider]

refund complete... On behalf of X-h20 I THANK YOU for the entertainment!


:Banane57:



i want a refund... i thought this show was gonna be more entertaining..............






i just kidding

[Seeg]

Refund recieved, thank you.

kid, there will be no nose piece.

[ballen]

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:Banane57:
I would have sent the refund with E-Check... just playing....

[Seeg]

I found out why I had no option for Instant payment versus eCheck, my CC on file had an expired expiration date! :banghead:
My checking account was on file also, so they electronically swoop the funds out. When there is just a checking account, default is eCheck.


Oh, the drama................

[willycrumb]

You guys must not be potheads.

[Seeg]

Did you see my avatar? Jeff Spicoli is my hero.

[yamaslut]

You guys must not be potheads.


Uhhhhhh hummmm.... Scott is a good friend of mine... :sneaky: