Firefox vs. IE

[michael950]

I quit using IE becasue I just plain hate Microsoft. They never had vision, always followers.

IE 7, Zune, Xbox, Windows, etc. are some examples (always late to the gate).

IE 7 now has tabbed browsing, which was the primary reason I switched to Firefox. Now FF2 now has spell checker in forms (like the edit box on the forum). Open source is the way to go. Now if I just had the cash to switch to mac. BSD Mach Kernel, yeah.


What do you use and why?

[Snackem]

I use Fire Fox because I like the tab browsing, it's more secure and I also like the spell check.

[meatball]

I use firefox to spite Microsoft. Although right now Im on IE, becuase my old computer doesnt support it. If you do any research, you can find that IE tabs all the websites you go to in a hidden folder only accessible through DOS, thats some whacked out s%$#t

[Boris]

I use IE because I don't know any better and never tried Fire Fox.

Honestly, I ain't to puter savvy so I can't see the dangers in using IE.

[Matt_E]

IE 7, Zune, Xbox, Windows, etc. are some examples (always late to the gate).



Late to the gate? XBox 360 came out a full year ahead of the competition and was the first Gen 7 console. XBox Live was the first system of its kind and is still unrivaled.

With most other things, you are right. Btw, I use Firefox.

And I don't think it matters what we think...they do pretty well for themselves.

[michael950]

Yes, but MSFT was late to the gate entering the gaming console.

XB Live, yeah. I will give you that, though it was not vision. Just saw online gaming, which I believe they used in other MSFT PC games.

Xbox beating the competition... when has MS has any regard with quality control?

[demolition_x]

if you want to try something different try http://www.opera.com/


its a pretty cool browser. you can get it to talk to you if you highlight the text.

i tried to use it but im so use to the firefox buttons and stuff

[Ally]

i love firefox :biggrin:

[Matt_E]

Yes, but MSFT was late to the gate entering the gaming console.

XB Live, yeah. I will give you that, though it was not vision. Just saw online gaming, which I believe they used in other MSFT PC games.

Xbox beating the competition... when has MS has any regard with quality control?

They were late getting into it, you are right. However, they did amazingly well with their second console, both on the hardware side and in securing developers - including once exclusive Sony titles.

I am not sure what your last sentence means. QC...yeah, their 360's apparently had some serious issues in the first year. Serious enough for me to buy a 2yr warranty. :smile:
I believe Sony is in hotter water than M$ though.

Oh yeah, IE sucks.

I am also using Linux more and more.

:arms:

[meatball]

opera is cool but the ads arent if you havent paid for it. Firefox is typically a smidge faster then IE and a bit more capable of doing tricks around the block then IE is, that is, if people start catering towards Firefox more.

[Matt_E]

Firefox...try Ice Weasel. Ha, I saw that in a recent Linux Live CD.

[yama_freak615]

i use IE, i don't have the nexer version though, i don't like it. i like the IE i have now.. i just cant get used to FF

[SuperJETT]

Based on http://www.x-h2o.com/psistats.php?do=os it looks like it's about 50/50 FF/IE for pages on x-h2o.

Use what you like, I happen to like FF.

Plus, we use Ubuntu Linux at home, so having FF 2 on every computer I use makes it really nice. Also, you can copy your profile from one to another and keep all your saved passwords/cookies/bookmarks the same.

[AIRICCC]

internet exploder? ive never had problems with it... I tried using firefox but didnt like the layout/format... mostly because im used to IE

[michael950]

Based on http://www.x-h2o.com/psistats.php?do=os it looks like it's about 50/50 FF/IE for pages on x-h2o.

Use what you like, I happen to like FF.

Plus, we use Ubuntu Linux at home, so having FF 2 on every computer I use makes it really nice. Also, you can copy your profile from one to another and keep all your saved passwords/cookies/bookmarks the same.

I figured that, but it does not take into account preferences. I know at school FF is not available. IE is on every windows computer so members would not have an option if FF is not available and they could not install it.

[Prem1x]

Lets all ask Michael if he's sold his XBOX yet or replaced Windows with any other OS's on any of his or Kim's laptops yet...:sneaky: :skull2:

[Fishy27]

I just use whatever...i like firefox cause of the tab browsing...but i just started using it down here at the fiancee's shop...i use IE at home

[superrob750]

firefox. adblock is awesome.

[michael950]

Lets all ask Michael if he's sold his XBOX yet or replaced Windows with any other OS's on any of his or Kim's laptops yet...:sneaky: :skull2:


Don't think I haven't tried. Kim was going to get me a MacBook for Christmas, but I told her no b/c mine works fine (well as well as MSFT can). (Why drop $1,200 on a notebook?).

Now, what will I use after XP? Definately not Vista.

Last time I turned on my Xbox.... hmmmm.

[sjkawgirl]

I use both.:dunno:

[onesojourner]

I have been using firefox since version 1.0. IE would have left us on 6 forever if it were not for firefox and opera pushing them to make 7. I useadblock plus and adblock. they work great with each other. I also use foxmarks. that lets you sync the bookmarks on all the computers you use.

Ice weasel is just the debian guys. I think its really dumb, but if it makes them feel better go for it. thats what open source is all about.

[Prem1x]

Don't think I haven't tried. Kim was going to get me a MacBook for Christmas, but I told her no b/c mine works fine (well as well as MSFT can). (Why drop $1,200 on a notebook?).

Now, what will I use after XP? Definately not Vista.

Last time I turned on my Xbox.... hmmmm.

Exactly, if its not broke, why throw more money at it. I don't blame you. If I wasn't able to get my hands on dev copies of XP, I wouldn't be paying for any OS, so it would be Linux for me. I telnet to Unix computers quite frequently at work, and I write software that is marketed for Linux clients, so its not like I'm unfamiliar with it, but I just don't get into the whole religous anti-M$ thing. I like to be able to play games that require WinXP and the PCs I have were already some version of windows, so the upgrade was easier. But you are right that Vista looks too locked down at the moment. But what's the rush? Wait a year for all the patches to be released and cracks to be figured out.

M$ was late into gaming, but wasn't Sony just trying to bite out some of Nintendo's market? Wasn't Nintendo trying to get some of Atari's? Is SanDisk and every other iPod copy just trying to get a piece of the pie too? But really, the XBOX was THE best computer you could buy at the time. Anybody could flash the BIOS and put Linux on it and do whatever with it. The 360 has lots of good things about it, too. I don't think you'd be turning on a PS2 any more often if you had one.

Last I heard Gates was evil, yeah, but he also donates HUGE amounts of cash to charities (I have no comment on my boss.) I was in San Fran during MacWeek. There's nothing more pathetic than a bunch of nerds circle-jerking while Steve Jobs gives a speech on another new gadget that has an 80% chance of going nowhere. Hockey Puck mice? Mac Cubes, anyone?

BTW, I'm on FireFox because its safer and way more configurable. But if it keeps on hogging my memory like my SXR guzzles gas, I'll switching to the next most stable and secure platform. Its all about functionality vs. cost for me.

[Matt_E]

well written. Nice.

[michael950]

Exactly, if its not broke, why throw more money at it. I don't blame you. If I wasn't able to get my hands on dev copies of XP, I wouldn't be paying for any OS, so it would be Linux for me. I telnet to Unix computers quite frequently at work, and I write software that is marketed for Linux clients, so its not like I'm unfamiliar with it, but I just don't get into the whole religous anti-M$ thing. I like to be able to play games that require WinXP and the PCs I have were already some version of windows, so the upgrade was easier. But you are right that Vista looks too locked down at the moment. But what's the rush? Wait a year for all the patches to be released and cracks to be figured out.

M$ was late into gaming, but wasn't Sony just trying to bite out some of Nintendo's market? Wasn't Nintendo trying to get some of Atari's? Is SanDisk and every other iPod copy just trying to get a piece of the pie too? But really, the XBOX was THE best computer you could buy at the time. Anybody could flash the BIOS and put Linux on it and do whatever with it. The 360 has lots of good things about it, too. I don't think you'd be turning on a PS2 any more often if you had one.

Last I heard Gates was evil, yeah, but he also donates HUGE amounts of cash to charities (I have no comment on my boss.) I was in San Fran during MacWeek. There's nothing more pathetic than a bunch of nerds circle-jerking while Steve Jobs gives a speech on another new gadget that has an 80% chance of going nowhere. Hockey Puck mice? Mac Cubes, anyone?

BTW, I'm on FireFox because its safer and way more configurable. But if it keeps on hogging my memory like my SXR guzzles gas, I'll switching to the next most stable and secure platform. Its all about functionality vs. cost for me.

I am in the same boat, I only run XP Pro and Office XP b/c I was able to get it for $10 through the university's student access licensing program. I would probably have already swithced to linux if I could find equivalents for ALL the programs which I currently use, and have little learning curves.

Oh, MacWeek just happened?

[Prem1x]

Yeah, just released the iPhone, which is already getting complaints from Europeans that it doesn't support important specifications over there.

[ski4]

i phone is not getting released in europe till some time late 07 or 08 i thought, what are they complaining about??


anyhow
safari for me and on my other pc when i must use it, fire fox

[Prem1x]

iPhone doesn't support 3G wireless.

[ski4]

iPhone doesn't support 3G wireless.


not yet but by the time europe gets it's release i would imagine that will be something they are going to try and work on
2008 is a ways away yet. hell it may not even be called i phone by the time it gets released here

[yamaslut]

I use Maxthon.... Must be some off brand. I love it though.

www.maxthon.com (http://www.maxthon.com)

Tabbed Browsing Interface
Mouse Gestures
Super Drag&Drop
Privacy Protection
AD Hunter
RSS Reader
IE Extensions Support
External Utility Bar
Skinning <LI class=text_comment>And Much More to Explore...

[guiness92]

I love firefox, the only issue i have is sometimes I need to open something in IE for it to work properly, I must be missing plugins, and when I click on get plugins, it doesnt seem to get the right ones.

[Prem1x]

I love firefox, the only issue i have is sometimes I need to open something in IE for it to work properly, I must be missing plugins, and when I click on get plugins, it doesnt seem to get the right ones.

There's a plugin called IE Tab that works great for those pages requiring IE. It allows you to switch what engine renders your webpage (it embeds IE in Firefox).

[Prem1x]

not yet but by the time europe gets it's release i would imagine that will be something they are going to try and work on
2008 is a ways away yet. hell it may not even be called i phone by the time it gets released here

The reports I heard said that Apple had no plans on supporting it.